Blunttech e12 LSx / t56 swap

Post by **mooseheadm5** » Jul 13, 2012 6:43 PM

Or you could do a rack conversion.

jakeb · Post by **jakeb** » Jul 13, 2012 7:03 PM

I don't think there is enough room. The track rod is really close to the trans already.

Bill in MN · Post by **Bill in MN** » Jul 13, 2012 7:58 PM

If the e28 gear will fit there's a good chance an e21 power rack will work.

Post by **mooseheadm5** » Jul 13, 2012 10:39 PM

You may be able to tuck a rack in place of the track rod. Just a thought. It might give you more room for exhaust.

jakeb · Post by **jakeb** » Jul 16, 2012 5:01 PM

It's hot as hell today but I got some done early this morning. I am spending time on this and another project I am finishing up(76 turbo m42 2002) and trying not to sweat to death.

Engine is in it's final location. Engine mounts are made..... Still need to make the trans mount but I need to get the rubber mount for the trans.

The funny this is making the mounts themselves really took no time at all. Maybe an hour total. The time consuming part is moving the engine back and forth and getting things just where I want them.

The engine sits really low, oil pan is just above the subframe (no picture right now). There is almost 3" between the water pump pulley nose and the radiator. I was able to push the engine back just a little bit more and now the steering arm is clearing without any trimming.

Drivers side exhaust manifold shouldn't be to bad to make. Routing the pipe around to the passenger side might be a little trickier. Just really tight....might have to make the sorta an oval in one spot.

On to some pictures.

Nothing from below yet....maybe tomorrow. Calling for even hotter temps tomorrow. I really need to find an AC unit for the garage.

slimdevil27 · Post by **slimdevil27** » Jul 16, 2012 5:20 PM

What's your location? The reason I ask is...if it's a dry state then quite a few tire and repair shops use water mist in front of a fan.....the guys at the junk yard would rig their own personal units from scrap parts....washer pump, blower fan, five gallon bucket...cheap and easy. If you know what a swamp cooler is, then it'll work amazingly well.

Depending on your garage the best thing to keep things cool is evacuating the hot air from the peak of the roof through the dormer vent with a fan and open whatever window or just crack the garage door on whichever side is shaded.

Quit whining and get back to work, we want more pics

jakeb · Post by **jakeb** » Jul 16, 2012 5:23 PM

hahaha

I am in Michigan...the humidity is just as bad as the heat actually probably makes it worse.

I have a HUGE ass fan pulling air in which makes it better but the temp in the garage is still hotter than outside.

Post by **mooseheadm5** » Jul 16, 2012 6:07 PM

Check out http://bmwengineswap.info/viewtopic.php ... b91f86b412

That is bmw4aaron's M60 V8 swap. You can see a little of what he did for the exhaust. That may help. Also, post your builds there.

jakeb · Post by **jakeb** » Jul 16, 2012 6:14 PM

Thanks for the link. I will have to see if I could do something like that.

I have never seen that site. I'll post my builds there too. As well as read a bunch of them.

jakeb · Post by **jakeb** » Jul 17, 2012 4:06 PM

Not much work in the garage today...it's 100degrees outside.
Started to make the trans mount and at least the engine is supported on it's own now.
Starting to make lists of parts. Driveshaft is measured and can be ordered now.

Also able to lift it up and check under it a lot easier. One more spot in the tunnel that I need to pound out and then there will be around 1/2" all the way around the trans.

some pictures

jakeb · Post by **jakeb** » Jul 19, 2012 8:00 PM

I had to roll it off the lift yesterday and thought it was a good time to see how it sits. Mind you the hood isn't on it and it is missing a fair amount of things from the engine but it actually sits higher in the front then it did with the m30.

Spent some time today working on the drivers side exhaust manifold today.

Post by **mooseheadm5** » Jul 19, 2012 10:22 PM

Not bad. Do you think it would be beneficial to have them merge with the main pipe using bends instead of straight dumps?

jakeb · Post by **jakeb** » Jul 20, 2012 9:36 AM

There is a bend coming off the port and I would have liked to have them directed toward the output but I had to have room for the plug wire too. The one that is just straight pipe is about 1" off the main runner. I would have liked for it to be smoother but only so much space to work with.

scarey013 · Post by **scarey013** » Jul 20, 2012 12:21 PM

Jake, I was wondering how the E28 track bar and tie rod swap worked. I had been contemplating doing that for a while, myself, for another swap I was planning. Do you think it affected geometry at all and how much clearance did it give you?

Thanks.

jakeb · Post by **jakeb** » Jul 20, 2012 12:39 PM

I would say I have gained at least 2" of clearance. Maybe a little bit more. Everything lines up as it did with the e12 stuff. I might have to end up using 2002 tie rods because the e28 ones are a little long. Hard to tell forsure without having it aligned but it looks like it is still toed in with them wound all the way in. The 2002 tie tod center threaded part is about 3/4" shorter. I have a set in route to try to also see if the ball joints are the same.

jakeb · Post by **jakeb** » Jul 25, 2012 10:05 PM

Been ordering parts and working on the suspension. I need the driveshaft to finish the trans mount and then I can make the exhaust...and move ahead with things.

Front suspension is all apart..springs should be here tomorrow so I can get all that put back together. No pics really...pretty boring stuff to see there.

Dropped the rear subframe....a lift really makes it a quick and easy job.

Camber adjusters installed

Subframe ready to go back in...new trailing arm bushings, subframe bushings, ST sway bar, diff mount, and the adjustable camber.

Also got the filter/regulator in place. Will swap out the intank pump tomorrow more than likely.

S38Mike · Post by **S38Mike** » Jul 26, 2012 1:15 AM

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willis · Post by **willis** » Jul 26, 2012 2:10 AM

I'm watching this closely. It's so awesome. Good luck!

Jelmer538i · Post by **Jelmer538i** » Jul 26, 2012 3:47 AM

Looks good!

I've put a E28 subframe under my '80 E12. It was a bolt in.

unt0uchable · Post by **unt0uchable** » Jul 26, 2012 9:19 AM

I love the grungieness of this whole build. The fact that he's not touching anything cosmetic is awesome. (Not that your meticulously powdercoated/refreshed swap in your 528 wasn't awesome, but this just makes us really look like HP junkies, lol) I am mostly referring to the rear sub-frame and how the diff has the same amount of grease going back in that it had coming out, lol. Nice work! Keep it up! Can't wait to see the finished product.

L_N_Love · Post by **L_N_Love** » Jul 26, 2012 11:07 AM

unt0uchable wrote:I love the grungieness of this whole build. The fact that he's not touching anything cosmetic is awesome. (Not that your meticulously powdercoated/refreshed swap in your 528 wasn't awesome, but this just makes us really look like HP junkies, lol) I am mostly referring to the rear sub-frame and how the diff has the same amount of grease going back in that it had coming out, lol. Nice work! Keep it up! Can't wait to see the finished product.

I was thinking the same thing.

BluntTech · Post by **BluntTech** » Jul 26, 2012 1:27 PM

unt0uchable wrote:I love the grungieness of this whole build. The fact that he's not touching anything cosmetic is awesome. (Not that your meticulously powdercoated/refreshed swap in your 528 wasn't awesome, but this just makes us really look like HP junkies, lol) I am mostly referring to the rear sub-frame and how the diff has the same amount of grease going back in that it had coming out, lol. Nice work! Keep it up! Can't wait to see the finished product.

Thanks guys Jake is meticulous and while he didnt push me to detail this thing out i know thats the way he would do it.
Ive got several other cars that are nut and bolt type restos and I just want something I dont have to care about and just thrash on.. Knowing its mechanically 100%

1st 5er · Post by **1st 5er** » Jul 26, 2012 6:51 PM

BluntTech wrote:
unt0uchable wrote:I love the grungieness of this whole build. The fact that he's not touching anything cosmetic is awesome. (Not that your meticulously powdercoated/refreshed swap in your 528 wasn't awesome, but this just makes us really look like HP junkies, lol) I am mostly referring to the rear sub-frame and how the diff has the same amount of grease going back in that it had coming out, lol. Nice work! Keep it up! Can't wait to see the finished product.
Thanks guys Jake is meticulous and while he didnt push me to detail this thing out i know thats the way he would do it.
Ive got several other cars that are nut and bolt type restos and I just want something I dont have to care about and just thrash on.. Knowing its mechanically 100%

Sounds a lot like my car's destinations.

jakeb · Post by **jakeb** » Jul 27, 2012 8:30 PM

Suspension is just about done. Car is sitting down on all 4 again.

Billy sports and Spax springs

Back on the ground. The old suspension was a combo of blown shocks, cut springs, and __________.

Just to compare a little bit....
with m30

old suspension and LSx

New suspension and LSx

It should drop a bit more once everything is put together and it moves around to settle a bit.

Waiting on the driveshaft now and then I can move ahead with the exhaust, etc etc

jakeb · Post by **jakeb** » Aug 07, 2012 4:28 PM

I was waiting on the driveshaft and then was out of town for a long weekend. Got back at the car today...

Driveshaft in, clears everywhere except at one spot on the subframe. Broke out the plasma and was able to open it up just enough.

You can sorta see where I had to clearance the subframe.

Transmission mount is made..well tacked up and holding at least. Still have to add a little gusset on the passenger side and clean it all up.

Started on the exhaust...it is a tricky task getting around everything from the drivers side back to the passenger side. I had to order one more bend and a few band clamps...nothing else will really fit.

From the top

It's coming along....the exhaust is more than likely one of the more time consuming things. Just because there are so many things to get around. Hoping to have the bend and clamps tomorrow and then thursday I can finish the exhaust.

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Blunttech e12 LSx / t56 swap