E12 528i M90 Project
E12 528i M90 Project
After owning the car (Naomi) for little over 2 years now and the clear coat is staring to fade and some area the surface rust is begin to expand, I have been looking all along for an auto body shop, and no one wanted to take on a restoration project, they are all interested in collision repair..
So finally i was able to find one close to my house less than 5 miles away..
When i purchased the car the engine didn't run due to Sta-bil gas, changed out the spark plugs, wires, oil and filter along with fuel filter..
also the drive train need a center bearing support with Guibo. The other problem was the salve cylinder for the clutch was soft, ended up rebuilding the slave..
I was able to get the car moving but after the first test ride, the brakes would not work because of the brake line hoses were clogged due to rust build up,I replaced them with stainless steel hoses from IE.
This is how the car looked like when first purchase from Oldskool, it was a North Carolina car. The body surprising in good shape with just surface rust around the tail lights, gas tank door. floor boards, wheel well front and rear are rust free!
The car is all original, the engine had 177,000 miles..shocks where gone ...
Over time i made some upgrades to thew car like Alpina wheel, Alpina front spoiler, added B&g lowering springs with Belsteins shocks HD. But the car still is to high in the rear.. would like to get rear springs that lower the rear, maybe the H&R springs would work better..need to look into it further.
I was able to purchase from Walloth & Nesch a set of euro bumpers, what a difference the stance is much better
So I get a call from Jim the owner of the body shop (AV Repair in N Andover MA) and tells that he is kinda slow and can take my car. I said great I can have the car ready for you in a week..so I began taking apart Naomi, I have to say the car is in great shape for 38 yr old rust wise a few areas of small concern but nothing to inder the integrity of the body..
usual firewall rust:
Found some rust under the gas pedal due to PO having a leak from the heater core antifreeze was under the insulation grrr
So I stopped by today and the bodyshop is progressing really well..
had the front large turn signal patched..
I had them remove the front fender to see if there was any rust wheel well is clean rust free
So finally i was able to find one close to my house less than 5 miles away..
When i purchased the car the engine didn't run due to Sta-bil gas, changed out the spark plugs, wires, oil and filter along with fuel filter..
also the drive train need a center bearing support with Guibo. The other problem was the salve cylinder for the clutch was soft, ended up rebuilding the slave..
I was able to get the car moving but after the first test ride, the brakes would not work because of the brake line hoses were clogged due to rust build up,I replaced them with stainless steel hoses from IE.
This is how the car looked like when first purchase from Oldskool, it was a North Carolina car. The body surprising in good shape with just surface rust around the tail lights, gas tank door. floor boards, wheel well front and rear are rust free!
The car is all original, the engine had 177,000 miles..shocks where gone ...
Over time i made some upgrades to thew car like Alpina wheel, Alpina front spoiler, added B&g lowering springs with Belsteins shocks HD. But the car still is to high in the rear.. would like to get rear springs that lower the rear, maybe the H&R springs would work better..need to look into it further.
I was able to purchase from Walloth & Nesch a set of euro bumpers, what a difference the stance is much better
So I get a call from Jim the owner of the body shop (AV Repair in N Andover MA) and tells that he is kinda slow and can take my car. I said great I can have the car ready for you in a week..so I began taking apart Naomi, I have to say the car is in great shape for 38 yr old rust wise a few areas of small concern but nothing to inder the integrity of the body..
usual firewall rust:
Found some rust under the gas pedal due to PO having a leak from the heater core antifreeze was under the insulation grrr
So I stopped by today and the bodyshop is progressing really well..
had the front large turn signal patched..
I had them remove the front fender to see if there was any rust wheel well is clean rust free
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Nice work so far! I'll be following along
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Why wouldn't you buy euro fenders instead of patching the holes in the US versions?
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I tried to purchase them at my local dealer, which I have a good relationship, they came back saying I didn't have a euro car they couldn't place the order, then I tried Wallatoh & Nesch they emailed saying he didn't have them any longer right or left fender I did order a new hood from them. I then placed an order via ECS tuning they came back as back ordered and now they have updated the website to reflect such..Then I found a Craigslist ad in CA in the picture they looked Euro but after I purchased them and had them delivered they were US version with the patch and fenders were rolled, and slight damaged of a bad roll ...Adam W in MN wrote:Why wouldn't you buy euro fenders instead of patching the holes in the US versions?
I gave up, but I did purchase the precut conversion sheet metal form First five member Paul Cain for 79.00. Great job laser cutting them..
In the last 2 years body parts are very hard to find...Just before Bavarian Auto in NH closed down I ask one of the reps if i could drive up to NH as i am only 40 mins away, and look over the body parts inventory for anything related to E12 I also purchased a new trunk lid..for 100.00 (BMW original).
So the body shop owner has a person working on vehicle until it's finished (very fortunate), therefore I didn't want to lose time chasing down fenders..
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I thought I would update you guys on the M90 engine...I found this engine i believe it was a firstfive ad or bigcoupe don't remember, but it was an engine out of a euro 1980 635i I went and picked it up as it was a 1 3/4 drive from my house..
it was taken apart already, but he had all the parts..
Block_3 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
Block_4 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
Block_2 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
the head was it good shape
Head_Bottom by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
I brought to Mike at Malden machine shop he builds racing engine for drag cars..he took a look at the engine and pressured tested the block along with the head, all turn out fine.. So i instructed him to polish the crankshaft and mill the head, reset the valves, paint the block and change out the freeze plugs.
I then reached out to Devens Piston and rings in Las Vegas and had a set of new ring made the the original pistons (new rings from BMW were NLA) I then found a Shrick cam ...
20180803_095413 (002) by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
20180803_095401 (002) by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
20190902_144108 (002) by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
I am debating going with Motronic 1.3 or mega squirt (I am lean towards mega squirt as i believe it would give me more horsepower with schrick cam).
I know i am not using L jet, so I have purchased a Motronic distributor cover, and had it milled to the head.
20180803_095447 (002) by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
20180803_095401 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
20180803_095358 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
20180803_095322 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
I also am having the valve cover and all the aluminium parts sprayed in Cerakote finish..with E21 runners
valve cover cerakote by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
it was taken apart already, but he had all the parts..
Block_3 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
Block_4 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
Block_2 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
the head was it good shape
Head_Bottom by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
I brought to Mike at Malden machine shop he builds racing engine for drag cars..he took a look at the engine and pressured tested the block along with the head, all turn out fine.. So i instructed him to polish the crankshaft and mill the head, reset the valves, paint the block and change out the freeze plugs.
I then reached out to Devens Piston and rings in Las Vegas and had a set of new ring made the the original pistons (new rings from BMW were NLA) I then found a Shrick cam ...
20180803_095413 (002) by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
20180803_095401 (002) by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
20190902_144108 (002) by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
I am debating going with Motronic 1.3 or mega squirt (I am lean towards mega squirt as i believe it would give me more horsepower with schrick cam).
I know i am not using L jet, so I have purchased a Motronic distributor cover, and had it milled to the head.
20180803_095447 (002) by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
20180803_095401 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
20180803_095358 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
20180803_095322 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
I also am having the valve cover and all the aluminium parts sprayed in Cerakote finish..with E21 runners
valve cover cerakote by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
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Have you looked at my website for details on my M90 engine rebuild? Also the thread on here about the bodywork on my E12 could be useful to you.
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Adam, I viewed your website a few years ago, and found very informative..I actually viewed it recently, about your rear springs..
I don't like the way my rear sits... its and 1"-1 1/4 to high..I see your car and others Alpina B7 like Frank Haas's old car, sit lower...
I think I need to install H&R springs..
I don't like the way my rear sits... its and 1"-1 1/4 to high..I see your car and others Alpina B7 like Frank Haas's old car, sit lower...
I think I need to install H&R springs..
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I'm happy with the rears but I want to get the front a little lower.
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what kind of lowering spring do you have installed?
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Wow, this is alot of progress since I last was on here. Do the e21 intake runners match up perfectly to the e12 injector housings and intake accumulator, or is there a little porting work needed?
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The E21 runner bolt up with no modification at all. The runners allow for more power at the lower RPM between 1500 to 2500 RPM, i have not tried them yet on the M90 engine, but i have on the current 2,8l engines..what a difference with a simple change .. I believe Occoupe on his 3.0 Csimaybeillbuyit wrote:Wow, this is alot of progress since I last was on here. Do the e21 intake runners match up perfectly to the e12 injector housings and intake accumulator, or is there a little porting work needed?
I also got a call from the Cerakote guys telling me that the aluminium parts were ready..
as I posted in the first five forum i purchase a few months ago a Copy Cad Electroplating kit, this allowed me to restore parts for the car in small batches which avoids losing parts bolt and brackets.. i am very pleased with the outcome..
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Re: E12 528i M90 Project
I thought the window trim was bright dip, not anodized?
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This was just posted by John H on forum.bmw5.co.uk:
https://forum.bmw5.co.uk/topic/140447-d ... m-removal/
It is for E28's but the same principle should apply.
Regards,
Mick
https://forum.bmw5.co.uk/topic/140447-d ... m-removal/
It is for E28's but the same principle should apply.
Regards,
Mick
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Impressive. I'm intrigued as to why did you plug over the front turn lenses - in my mind, one of the nicest, most distinctive and well done adaptations for the US market in any foreign car.
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I really am not sure if they are anodized, you could be right about bright dip..Adam W in MN wrote:I thought the window trim was bright dip, not anodized?
When i lived in Europe I only knew the body with no side turn signal..I like the clean less busy look...Foonfer wrote:Impressive. I'm intrigued as to why did you plug over the front turn lenses - in my mind, one of the nicest, most distinctive and well done adaptations for the US market in any foreign car.
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this is exactly what i was looking for..thanks MickOrdnator wrote:This was just posted by John H on forum.bmw5.co.uk:
https://forum.bmw5.co.uk/topic/140447-d ... m-removal/
It is for E28's but the same principle should apply.
Regards,
Mick
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Your welcome, happy to help a fellow enthusiast.hunneman wrote:this is exactly what i was looking for..thanks MickOrdnator wrote:This was just posted by John H on forum.bmw5.co.uk:
https://forum.bmw5.co.uk/topic/140447-d ... m-removal/
It is for E28's but the same principle should apply.
Regards,
Mick
Regards,
Mick
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I went by to check on Naomi, most of the firewall repair and transmission tunnel repair is complete...then he moved into the cabin area and wire brushed the floor pan and repaired the gas pedal area..
they also tackled the motor bay area sanded down the rails !!
after they sand blaster the battery pan area some pin holes appear that needed some attention..
GAs pedal repair..
I am glad to have the inside cabin area clean and wire brush, i ask them to paint he inside as well..
the front and rear wheel well are in great shape. I can't believe this area does not have any rust what so ever compared to the
firewall...
Driver side
Passenger side
I am trilled that the front windshield channel is rust free, i was afraid some hidden rust would be festering under the gasket..
So as i was leaving the body shop they mentioned that they were going to patch up the rear side city lights and prime the engine bay area with rust inhibitor...and the roof area would be etching primer.. everything is moving along as scheduled...
they also tackled the motor bay area sanded down the rails !!
after they sand blaster the battery pan area some pin holes appear that needed some attention..
GAs pedal repair..
I am glad to have the inside cabin area clean and wire brush, i ask them to paint he inside as well..
the front and rear wheel well are in great shape. I can't believe this area does not have any rust what so ever compared to the
firewall...
Driver side
Passenger side
I am trilled that the front windshield channel is rust free, i was afraid some hidden rust would be festering under the gasket..
So as i was leaving the body shop they mentioned that they were going to patch up the rear side city lights and prime the engine bay area with rust inhibitor...and the roof area would be etching primer.. everything is moving along as scheduled...
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Happy New Year everyone...
Just got back from Aruba, where I spent the Xmas holiday's...
I stopped by the body shop and I was eager to see what else was done on the car...
I had them patch the rear side lights, I had purchased the patches from Firstfive member
dr side rear city l;ight patch by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
DSC_0315 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr+
Also the rear openings for the bumper shock were covered..
rear panel patch by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
passanger rear patch by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
DSC_0319 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
Rear quarter repair by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
Rear repaired by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
rear quarter II by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
rear quarter III by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
passenger side by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
He also sprayed a sealant in the from engine bay area and inside the wheel wells..
DSC_0321 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
DSC_0322 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
DSC_0312 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
DSC_0309 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
DSC_0310 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
DSC_0311 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
to my surprised he also primed the Driver side areas that are finished ...
dr side primed III by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
dr side primed jams by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
after finishing the repair around the gas pedal and transmission tunnel he also sprayed sealant inside the cabin area
inside sealed by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
DSC_0328 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
inside sealed II by Joe Fanuele, on
Flickr
inside sealed III by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
I am having the Rear suspension and the front sub Frame coated with POR 15 , the remaining components power-coated
20191222_123936 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
20191222_123859 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
20191222_123905 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
20191222_123932 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
Just got back from Aruba, where I spent the Xmas holiday's...
I stopped by the body shop and I was eager to see what else was done on the car...
I had them patch the rear side lights, I had purchased the patches from Firstfive member
dr side rear city l;ight patch by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
DSC_0315 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr+
Also the rear openings for the bumper shock were covered..
rear panel patch by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
passanger rear patch by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
DSC_0319 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
Rear quarter repair by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
Rear repaired by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
rear quarter II by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
rear quarter III by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
passenger side by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
He also sprayed a sealant in the from engine bay area and inside the wheel wells..
DSC_0321 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
DSC_0322 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
DSC_0312 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
DSC_0309 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
DSC_0310 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
DSC_0311 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
to my surprised he also primed the Driver side areas that are finished ...
dr side primed III by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
dr side primed jams by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
after finishing the repair around the gas pedal and transmission tunnel he also sprayed sealant inside the cabin area
inside sealed by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
DSC_0328 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
inside sealed II by Joe Fanuele, on
Flickr
inside sealed III by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
I am having the Rear suspension and the front sub Frame coated with POR 15 , the remaining components power-coated
20191222_123936 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
20191222_123859 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
20191222_123905 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
20191222_123932 by Joe Fanuele, on Flickr
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Outstanding! -and I really appreciate you not calling it a "Barn Find" even though I live in a barn.
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Stunning work. Glad I found this thread. I may stop in and talk this guy about the Schnitzer.
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Well after the car arrived, I parked in the garage my wife and son did not know about the purchase,( they knew i was in the market for E12), when my wife saw it she called it a barn find...As you know the car wasn't operable, once i got my hands on the motor i got it started in 15 mins..at that moment i decided not to call it a barn find!!oldskool wrote:Outstanding! -and I really appreciate you not calling it a "Barn Find" even though I live in a barn.
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It's a good thing that you found it. It was in serious danger of living with me for another season!hunneman wrote:Well after the car arrived, I parked in the garage my wife and son did not know about the purchase,( they knew i was in the market for E12), when my wife saw it she called it a barn find...As you know the car wasn't operable, once i got my hands on the motor i got it started in 15 mins..at that moment i decided not to call it a barn find!!oldskool wrote:Outstanding! -and I really appreciate you not calling it a "Barn Find" even though I live in a barn.