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Foonfer wrote: Aug 19, 2021 5:56 PM Received the kit in the mail today! Looks GORGEOUS, craftsmanship is top notch. Thanks a lot!
Very glad to hear you're happy with it!
Let me know how installation goes.
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Orders through #1033 (July 23rd) shipped today
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I just received mine yesterday & couldn’t be happier, great work!
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Arrived yesterday. Looks fantastic. Might be a while till I install her, but looking forward.

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Please make these for e23’s!
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still waiting on mine. hopefully itll get here soon!
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TamperedWith wrote: Aug 23, 2021 8:38 AM Please make these for e23’s!
If your e23 is e28 based, it'll work. I'm working on figuring out what changes (if any) I need to make for this to work with e12 based cars.
This thread has good information about the us vs euro e28 fuse boxes and may help you out.
EuroE28M5 wrote: Aug 23, 2021 10:07 AM still waiting on mine. hopefully itll get here soon!
Yours was the first international order - I'm really hoping I didn't goof up the customs information.
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Thank you! Received my order today(#1035). They look amazing and will make a huge difference!
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Got my kit, Yay! Thank you… got it installed in about 3 hours. Starts, runs…. All works except right rear tail lamp, running lamps, right side, license lamp, etc. Check control says rear lights out and license light. My left tail lamp does light - running. All brake lights work and check control goes out when I hit pedal. When I turn lights on, check control activates for rear lights and license.

And fronts all light up as well. All headlights and fogs work. I check my wiring and must have missed something. None of my LEDs work on board either. I grounded lead to battery. I know wire is good and has continuity. I put test light on positive and touched ground circuit of pin on top near switch and test light activates so I know it has good ground. Pin to ground ring has continuity too with OHM meter.

Any thoughts or help would be great. Oh so close!
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carnutdallas wrote: Aug 27, 2021 1:02 AM Got my kit, Yay! Thank you… got it installed in about 3 hours. Starts, runs…. All works except right rear tail lamp, running lamps, right side, license lamp, etc. Check control says rear lights out and license light. My left tail lamp does light - running. All brake lights work and check control goes out when I hit pedal. When I turn lights on, check control activates for rear lights and license.

And fronts all light up as well. All headlights and fogs work. I check my wiring and must have missed something. None of my LEDs work on board either. I grounded lead to battery. I know wire is good and has continuity. I put test light on positive and touched ground circuit of pin on top near switch and test light activates so I know it has good ground. Pin to ground ring has continuity too with OHM meter.

Any thoughts or help would be great. Oh so close!
Double check your connections for fuse 9 - it looks like that one fuse powers the lights you're having issues with. You may have one of the wires hooked up to a neighboring fuse.
As for the LEDs not working: some boards are shipped with the switch off and some with the switch on - try flipping it back and forth a couple times and seeing what happens. The LEDs will only turn on if the fuse itself has power, so only some of them lighting up at any given time is expected. With the car in "off" there should be three lit up (when the switch is on).
As always, please reach out if you're still having problems.
-Galahad
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Sleep and fresh eyes fixed the lights. But still no LED’s. I rocked that switch more than a few times. Am I missing how it is powered in instructions?
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Carnut,

The Black lead coming though the front should be for the lights, and needs to go to ground. ( I used the one above the battery) Your post mentions going to the battery with that? Is the ground wire connected to the correct pin underneath?
carnutdallas wrote: Aug 27, 2021 1:02 AM None of my LEDs work on board either. I grounded lead to battery.
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Yes, only one small pin for it to go to. Grounded to main body ground from battery. No LED's light up. I guess solder could be cracked on pin from installation of ground wire - tight fit, but seems highly unlikely. Switch may be bad?? Having the lights would be super cool. Pretty decent 12V guy.
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Carnut-

The LEDs are powered off the fuses themselves, so you only need to hook up the ground wire.
I would be very surprised if the switch went bad during shipping; I test all the boards before packaging them.
Can you post a photo or two? That may be helpful in diagnosis the issue.
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Shipping update: I just dropped off orders through #1060, and I expect to have the remaining orders (as of right now) dropped off on Monday
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Video of Fuse Panel - Link to Photobucket.
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carnut -

That's pretty weird, it looks like it's set up correctly. The only thing I can think is the ground wire somehow came unplugged from the pin while you were screwing the case back together, but you said you tested that. I'll have to think some more.
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Yeah, I plugged my test light on positive and touched it to the pin on top of circuit board. Light came on, so ground has to be good. And I would imagine if my whole car works, then board has power. Even if I had something not plugged in, some would light and some would not. Anyway to test the switch?
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Galahad wrote: Aug 23, 2021 2:04 PM
TamperedWith wrote: Aug 23, 2021 8:38 AM Please make these for e23’s!
If your e23 is e28 based, it'll work. I'm working on figuring out what changes (if any) I need to make for this to work with e12 based cars.
This thread has good information about the us vs euro e28 fuse boxes and may help you out.
EuroE28M5 wrote: Aug 23, 2021 10:07 AM still waiting on mine. hopefully itll get here soon!
Yours was the first international order - I'm really hoping I didn't goof up the customs information.
Got my kit on late Friday. Didn't check it out yet as i work in a different town. Will check it out this thursday! But it has arrived! Thank You!
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carnutdallas wrote: Aug 29, 2021 9:41 PM Yeah, I plugged my test light on positive and touched it to the pin on top of circuit board. Light came on, so ground has to be good. And I would imagine if my whole car works, then board has power. Even if I had something not plugged in, some would light and some would not. Anyway to test the switch?
If you have a multimeter, check the resistance between the center pin of one of the LEDs and the ground pin below the switch. With the switch in one position it should be open, the other should be around 550 Ohms.
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Galahad wrote: Aug 30, 2021 10:08 PM
carnutdallas wrote: Aug 29, 2021 9:41 PM Yeah, I plugged my test light on positive and touched it to the pin on top of circuit board. Light came on, so ground has to be good. And I would imagine if my whole car works, then board has power. Even if I had something not plugged in, some would light and some would not. Anyway to test the switch?
If you have a multimeter, check the resistance between the center pin of one of the LEDs and the ground pin below the switch. With the switch in one position it should be open, the other should be around 550 Ohms.
Ok, will update tomorrow. Thanks!
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Just received my kit today. I won't be able to install it this weekend but I'm definitely looking forward to getting the fusebox looking better and more functional than before!
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I've DHLed it to Israel.
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Thanks.
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Got mine last week and installed Saturday morning.

I took the extra step of printing the color coded cardboard card from the flickr page and used it as a guide to label each wire as I unplugged.

That is, I numbered each connection in the photo (and marked an X through all the unused connections) and labeled the each wire as I pulled it off. On the wires with the white connectors, I used a fine point Sharpe and for the wires with the black connector or no plastic, I used masking tape.

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With respect to removing the old fuse holders, I found that having a screw driver with a narrow blade to fit between the plastic and the metal connector AND a long enough handle so that the handle extends beyond the housing, was the best solution to get the connectors moving. Once I got the metal loose from the plastic I'd use needle nose pliers to get them out.

Everything worked right away. I almost missed reconnecting one of the ground wires I took off the main ground lug. I did take the opportunity to thoroughly clean the ground and the ground bolt. Both were slightly corroded.

My only problem is that I am blowing one of the 7.5A fuses. I think the problem is that I have an aftermarket wireless remote lock/unlock system in the trunk. That fuse used to be 8.0A. I must be pulling just a bit more power than the 7.5A fuse can handle. I put a 10A fuse in its place for now without a problem.

Thanks for such a well made piece of kit.
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gump wrote: Sep 14, 2021 7:50 PM [...]
My only problem is that I am blowing one of the 7.5A fuses. I think the problem is that I have an aftermarket wireless remote lock/unlock system in the trunk. That fuse used to be 8.0A. I must be pulling just a bit more power than the 7.5A fuse can handle. I put a 10A fuse in its place for now without a problem.
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Thanks for the review, glad you're happy with it!
My car has the same issue - blowing the door lock fuse using an aftermarket fob. Some of my locks are sticky which may contribute to the problem.
I wouldn't expect the difference between 7.5A and 8A to be meaningful, but putting in a 10A shouldn't be a problem based on how the door locks work.
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Got mine installed yesterday. Took a little extra time because I didn't have adequate lighting. I tried using a razor blade but wound up switching to Craftsman multitool. I would have done better if I had a steady hand and a Dremel to open up the slots.
Maybe 6hours total. My interior lights now work. Which was a surprise since I thought the display on the radio was broken.
I just need to work out why my high beams aren't lighting up
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I just ordered it :)
(Order #1076)
Last weekend I went for a drive, used the AC and when I stopped at a toll heard a noise and the evap fan stopped.
Fuse got a bit melty... even though I had bought "ceramic" fuses (evidently they weren't ceramic :laugh: :laugh: )
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Done.
Super product.
M535-DC71

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Sagi wrote: Sep 30, 2021 9:10 AM Done.
Super product.
M535-DC71
Looks great! Always happy to hear installation went well.
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Can someone post a couple of pics for me?
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