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I had two rental cars today, of a sort. I'm in Utah at the Ford Performance Racing School for the GT350 Track Attack, which is a 1-day track program available for free to buyers of GT350/R models. So rental car #1 is pretty cool; a (non-R) GT350 in Race Red with white stripes. The event cars are in factory configuration, down to the tires and brake pads. Did a series of vehicle dynamics exercises: figure-8 like exercise with increasing/decreasing radius curves and slaloms (running through the various suspension modes to feel how the car changes); ABS and heel-toe downshift exercise; and a skid car (with hydraulic casters that elevate one end of the car suddenly to throw you into a slide). Very fun stuff. The afternoon was on track, first lead/follow, then with instructors riding, then solo.
Most of the people taking the course were relative track novices, so I ended up passing all but 2 cars in a 20-minute session (and lapping one), on a 2.2-mile track with only one passing zone. What really surprised me is how approachable the car is. Y'all may remember that my track car is a ~200hp E36, and while I have driven some faster hardware on track (E46 M3, E36 M3 with Euro S50, modded 135i), I have never really pushed a 526-hp, 3800-lb car around. I was prepared to be intimidated, but really the thing goes around a road course like a much lighter vehicle. Yes, it will get unruly quickly if you are rough with the throttle, and power oversteer is always a toe press away, but it is not frightening and feels very well contained within the chassis. Great balance, better than expected feedback through the wheel, and of course phenomenal noises.
Unfortunately, my other rental car is AWFUL. It's a late-model Nissan Altima that manages to combine that rare trifect of having no soul, being ugly, and being uncomfortable/ unpleasant. I'm okay with some cars being boring, but they need to make up for it by being very effortless to live with. The materials are unpleasant to touch, the engine note is a pathetic moan that is oddly intrusive, and the gauge info displays are difficult to read. It wouldn't recognize steering feel even if an E36 M3 was making love to it.
It has one feature that impressed me: I had the (comfort access) key in a bag, which I absent-mindedly tossed in the trunk. When I went to shut the lid, it refused to latch. The thing knew the key was in the trunk and didn't let me shut it in (even though there is an electronic button on the trunklid that could have let me re-open it. Oh, one other good feature that every car should have (and most do, but my GT350 does not): it actually has an interior handle to pull the trunk lid shut without touching the paint. It is nice to see that on a penny-pinching, relatively downmarket car.
Tomorrow, I'll be driving the FPRS Mustang GT; it's a normal 5.0 with track springs and dampers, running the GT competition pack, and lightened with roll cage and seats/ harnesses. A bit slower than the GT350, but should still be plenty of fun (and apparently they are a bit more tail-happy with less sophisticated TC).
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Most of the people taking the course were relative track novices, so I ended up passing all but 2 cars in a 20-minute session (and lapping one), on a 2.2-mile track with only one passing zone. What really surprised me is how approachable the car is. Y'all may remember that my track car is a ~200hp E36, and while I have driven some faster hardware on track (E46 M3, E36 M3 with Euro S50, modded 135i), I have never really pushed a 526-hp, 3800-lb car around. I was prepared to be intimidated, but really the thing goes around a road course like a much lighter vehicle. Yes, it will get unruly quickly if you are rough with the throttle, and power oversteer is always a toe press away, but it is not frightening and feels very well contained within the chassis. Great balance, better than expected feedback through the wheel, and of course phenomenal noises.
Unfortunately, my other rental car is AWFUL. It's a late-model Nissan Altima that manages to combine that rare trifect of having no soul, being ugly, and being uncomfortable/ unpleasant. I'm okay with some cars being boring, but they need to make up for it by being very effortless to live with. The materials are unpleasant to touch, the engine note is a pathetic moan that is oddly intrusive, and the gauge info displays are difficult to read. It wouldn't recognize steering feel even if an E36 M3 was making love to it.
It has one feature that impressed me: I had the (comfort access) key in a bag, which I absent-mindedly tossed in the trunk. When I went to shut the lid, it refused to latch. The thing knew the key was in the trunk and didn't let me shut it in (even though there is an electronic button on the trunklid that could have let me re-open it. Oh, one other good feature that every car should have (and most do, but my GT350 does not): it actually has an interior handle to pull the trunk lid shut without touching the paint. It is nice to see that on a penny-pinching, relatively downmarket car.
Tomorrow, I'll be driving the FPRS Mustang GT; it's a normal 5.0 with track springs and dampers, running the GT competition pack, and lightened with roll cage and seats/ harnesses. A bit slower than the GT350, but should still be plenty of fun (and apparently they are a bit more tail-happy with less sophisticated TC).
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I so don't understand how Nissan sells cars. You nailed it and they are simply awful. Even the trunk pull is a screwed on piece of cheap plastic.
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Ford Fusion. Worst steaming pile of shit rental car I've had in many years. The transmission shifted in clunks that would make an 80s GM automatic look sublime. Radio reception was piss poor and the Bluetooth wouldn't pair with my phone. It had a sport mode on the trans which added hesitation to the clunking for shifts.
Today I have a BMW 430i convertible because Enterprise was out of Mustangs so we got the luxury convertible for the same price. Ok car but it doesn't have msport. Good power, nice features, same wandering steering on-center. Ride is super floaty, like a Buick driven over marshmallows. What the hell happened to BMW ride tautness and feel?
Today I have a BMW 430i convertible because Enterprise was out of Mustangs so we got the luxury convertible for the same price. Ok car but it doesn't have msport. Good power, nice features, same wandering steering on-center. Ride is super floaty, like a Buick driven over marshmallows. What the hell happened to BMW ride tautness and feel?
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320 miles round-trip from Chicago to Fitchburg, WI in this with my sister to move another sister with MS who's dickhead husband is divorcing her.
Basically brand new. Great on freeway and in town. Will rent again.
Discovered WI has good beer. Food too. The heat/humidity bites though.
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That's weird, why did I quote Charlie's pic of the U haul? Dunno. But, I've got a twofer now, with a U haul too!
With the breakdown in Colorado a mere ~1350 miles from home I found it necessary to first rent a car for a day, plus the U haul with trailer.
The car was a Nissan Rogue. Don't even know what year, probably '23 as IIRC it was under 10K on the odometer. Enterprise kind of went out of their way to get me in it for the day, but for the $160 they charged they should have... Ok, we're not going there. Putting maybe 50 miles on it I didn't get much of a feel, but enough to irritate me. It was impossible to drive smoothly. Push on the gas, nothing happens. Push a little more, nothing. Push a little more and hold on, it's happenin'. Brakes were the same way, not much of a window between not much and too much. Really hard to modulate in basic driving. And the friggin' locks lock automatically as soon as you put it in drive, and won't unlock until you take it out of drive. Push on the unlock button and nothing happens. Brick to the head to the guy in a cubical in Japan who came up with that one. Screw the driver, we decide what should happen. Classy approach. Not.
Then the U haul. A Ford E450, what's that, a 1.5 or 2 ton van? 15 foot U haul box. It drove ok for what it was, a rental truck with 110K on it. But what a stripper. Wow, any more of a stripper and there would have been a pole in the middle. The thing is a good 6 feet across, so the lack of power locks and mirrors was definitely inconvenient, even though I'm not normally that concerned about the locks at least. Manual windows, no cruise, AM/FM radio, not stereo as far as I could tell, but did have a 3.3MM stereo input, an unexpected, but nice feature. Rubber mats, manual seats of course. Seat wasn't great, but better than I would have expected. Dogtracked a little bit, but hey, a 110K U haul? I'm just glad it was only a little bit. Not a lot of power, but I estimated truck, trailer, and Xterra on the trailer at 14K pounds. But not gutless, except going up an 8600 foot grade. Turns out it had a V10 engine. Never broke 10MPG, which was about what I expected. Checked oil the first day out and it was still a touch over full and looked clean, so I didn't check it again. Tranny was a little weird, tap the brakes going downhill to downshift, which wasn't bad, but it was overagressive in doing so and it would flatten out, but not completely, and I'd be taching 4000+ RPM at 50 MPH and I couldn't get it to upshift a gear. For what it was, it was fine. I would have liked power locks and mirrors, but the rest was fine. Now with the box it was, semi's blowing past me at 80+ were almost pushing me off the road with their wind wash, but that's just physics, not a fault of the truck.
With the breakdown in Colorado a mere ~1350 miles from home I found it necessary to first rent a car for a day, plus the U haul with trailer.
The car was a Nissan Rogue. Don't even know what year, probably '23 as IIRC it was under 10K on the odometer. Enterprise kind of went out of their way to get me in it for the day, but for the $160 they charged they should have... Ok, we're not going there. Putting maybe 50 miles on it I didn't get much of a feel, but enough to irritate me. It was impossible to drive smoothly. Push on the gas, nothing happens. Push a little more, nothing. Push a little more and hold on, it's happenin'. Brakes were the same way, not much of a window between not much and too much. Really hard to modulate in basic driving. And the friggin' locks lock automatically as soon as you put it in drive, and won't unlock until you take it out of drive. Push on the unlock button and nothing happens. Brick to the head to the guy in a cubical in Japan who came up with that one. Screw the driver, we decide what should happen. Classy approach. Not.
Then the U haul. A Ford E450, what's that, a 1.5 or 2 ton van? 15 foot U haul box. It drove ok for what it was, a rental truck with 110K on it. But what a stripper. Wow, any more of a stripper and there would have been a pole in the middle. The thing is a good 6 feet across, so the lack of power locks and mirrors was definitely inconvenient, even though I'm not normally that concerned about the locks at least. Manual windows, no cruise, AM/FM radio, not stereo as far as I could tell, but did have a 3.3MM stereo input, an unexpected, but nice feature. Rubber mats, manual seats of course. Seat wasn't great, but better than I would have expected. Dogtracked a little bit, but hey, a 110K U haul? I'm just glad it was only a little bit. Not a lot of power, but I estimated truck, trailer, and Xterra on the trailer at 14K pounds. But not gutless, except going up an 8600 foot grade. Turns out it had a V10 engine. Never broke 10MPG, which was about what I expected. Checked oil the first day out and it was still a touch over full and looked clean, so I didn't check it again. Tranny was a little weird, tap the brakes going downhill to downshift, which wasn't bad, but it was overagressive in doing so and it would flatten out, but not completely, and I'd be taching 4000+ RPM at 50 MPH and I couldn't get it to upshift a gear. For what it was, it was fine. I would have liked power locks and mirrors, but the rest was fine. Now with the box it was, semi's blowing past me at 80+ were almost pushing me off the road with their wind wash, but that's just physics, not a fault of the truck.
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Seems like an excessive amount of tow vehicle for what you needed to pull. I've done similar weight on one of those Uhaul trailers using a 1/2 ton truck and they were fine with it. At worst I'd have guessed a 3/4 ton would be required.
and yeah the V10 is a fuel pig under the best conditions.
and yeah the V10 is a fuel pig under the best conditions.
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That is great, I'll have to borrow that one. You sir, are a poet.Mike W. wrote: Aug 10, 2023 12:35 AMBut what a stripper. Wow, any more of a stripper and there would have been a pole in the middle.
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No AAA?Mike W. wrote: Aug 10, 2023 12:35 AM Enterprise kind of went out of their way to get me in it for the day, but for the $160 they charged they should have...
When Phx (fix), the E23 (purchased in PHX), cratered outside Pecos, AAA paid for the car to be towed plus a one-way rental car to get us home so i could return with Burbie and trailer to drag the car those last 300 +/- miles home.
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Yeah, I agree, but you rent from them and you play by their rules. Actually a pickup would have been much preferable as it wouldn't have been blown around by the semi's nearly as much. But it's beancounters running things not engineers.gadget73 wrote: Aug 10, 2023 11:18 AM Seems like an excessive amount of tow vehicle for what you needed to pull. I've done similar weight on one of those Uhaul trailers using a 1/2 ton truck and they were fine with it. At worst I'd have guessed a 3/4 ton would be required.
and yeah the V10 is a fuel pig under the best conditions.
Yes AAA. I got towed out out of the National Park for free, but I needed a car to get around for a day.1st 5er wrote: Aug 10, 2023 11:31 AMNo AAA?Mike W. wrote: Aug 10, 2023 12:35 AM Enterprise kind of went out of their way to get me in it for the day, but for the $160 they charged they should have...
When Phx (fix), the E23 (purchased in PHX), cratered outside Pecos, AAA paid for the car to be towed plus a one-way rental car to get us home so i could return with Burbie and trailer to drag the car those last 300 +/- miles home.
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Mike W. wrote: Aug 10, 2023 12:19 PMYes AAA. I got towed out out of the National Park for free, but I needed a car to get around for a day.1st 5er wrote: Aug 10, 2023 11:31 AM
No AAA?
When Phx (fix), the E23 (purchased in PHX), cratered outside Pecos, AAA paid for the car to be towed plus a one-way rental car to get us home so i could return with Burbie and trailer to drag the car those last 300 +/- miles home.
Yeah, I remembered you mentioning getting towed out of the NP by AAA.
My AAA coverages offers a free rental w/ each tow.
Wondering why yours wouldn't.
Maybe differs by state, or the coverage plan.
We have the Premier w/ RV coverage.
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12 years ago I rented something like that on a Chevy Van chassis rather than the full truck chassis. I was amazed I averaged 14-15 mpg driving from Oregon to So. Cal.