Oil Filter Adapter

[Badger]

So about a month ago I was researching how to add on an oil cooler and remote oil filter and came up with nothing but the sandwhich adapters from places like summit which I heard do not work well with our cars. M30 engine. I stumbled on this website today and am ordering one of these plates which eliminates the oil filter mount and replaces it with a block with an input line and output line. It's $100 which is cheaper than the korman one which is $200 something and the korman guy said it doesn't always work correctly.

Check it out

http://www.bmwe34.net/E34main/Trouble/OilCanister.htm

[Badger]

he is all out and may order another batch. Does anyone else want to buy one? I am going to.

[Shawn D.]

So about a month ago I was researching how to add on an oil cooler and remote oil filter and came up with nothing but the sandwhich adapters from places like summit which I heard do not work well with our cars.

Well, you should have "heard" that they not only do not work well, they don't work at all because they're designed for spin-on filter mounts, not canister-type housings.

[clevertd]

I'd be interested

[George]

What about machining an adapter block that would reside where the feed line is typically drilled for the turbo feed line?

It would go: Oil filter housing to adapter block and from there the adapter block could feed the turbo, oil cooler, and house the temp and pressure sensors.

[Badger]

I don't want to run the factory oil filter, I want to run a lower micron inline filter instead.

[altus22]

I don't want to run the factory oil filter, I want to run a lower micron inline filter instead.

If you want to filter your oil better, I'd suggest adding a bypass filter and not a more restrictive inline filter. I'm assuming that the lower micron filter will have the same surface area, which will cause a larger pressure drop and so your oil filter bypass might open and let unfiltered oil to circulate. If you choose a finer filter with the same flow rate at the specified pressure, you should be fine.

[///ARINUTS...]

you can always use the e23 745i set up.

[Badger]

send me one pls

[Jeremy]

I have the answer, but I only have one. It's an oil filter housing that has two AN fittings in place of the oil filter canister. From there the lines can be run to a plate with whatever spin on oil filter you'd like. I believe Mike Skeen has something similar on his car.

I looked into getting it reproduced and selling them, but the cost of making them was too high for it to be worth it.

Jeremy

[Badger]

How much?

[Jeremy]

How much?

For what?

[Jordanmilos]

Based on what I saw from BMWe34.net and Korman, I would be willing to put together a kit. I am in need of a place to put my oil temp sender and this makes the addition of an oil cooler much easier in the future. I have noticed this does get rid of the check valve in the housing so no skimping on the oil filters. I count interest from two people. Kit would include everything but the engine gasket (cant guess which one you have, there are three types) and the oil filter. 8ft of hose, oil filter mount, adapter block, 4 fittings and 4 hose clamps. Price would be $140 if there are five or more interested parties. The mount would use Ford spin-on filters. Or I can just sell you the block for $95 and you figure out the rest. First come first serve on that option. Let me know

[Nebraska_e28]

Based on what I saw from BMWe34.net and Korman, I would be willing to put together a kit. I am in need of a place to put my oil temp sender and this makes the addition of an oil cooler much easier in the future. I have noticed this does get rid of the check valve in the housing so no skimping on the oil filters. I count interest from two people. Kit would include everything but the engine gasket (cant guess which one you have, there are three types) and the oil filter. 8ft of hose, oil filter mount, adapter block, 4 fittings and 4 hose clamps. Price would be $140 if there are five or more interested parties. The mount would use Ford spin-on filters. Or I can just sell you the block for $95 and you figure out the rest. First come first serve on that option. Let me know

Where would you advise mounting the remote filter?

[paul burke]

Have been making these for a while, this is the one on Ken H's motor. I am going to make a billet spin on filter adapter that bolts in the stock location. It will have in/out ports and provisions for turbo oil, sending units etc. Will post pictures soon.

Paul

[Jordanmilos]

[quote="Nebraska_e28"][/quote]
Where would you advise mounting the remote filter?

I can't speak for the E28 but on my E34 I put it at the front of the drivers side wheel well. Placement there was because of the future oil cooler. I'll have to pop the hood on the E24 to see where it would go, maybe throw a few ideas out for the E28.

[Jordanmilos]

Well, the material for the adapter plates finally arrived and I got to it last night. I decided to make a sandwich adapter so there would be no need to remove the filter mount. At the same time, you keep the check valve which is located in the filter mount as well. You can spin the adapter whichever way you want, the cavity allows for it. The adapter in the picture was taken after a rough deburring and still doesn't have the holes drilled for the senders and remote lines. I'll probably have a finished kit for both types of adapters by next weekend.

[paul burke]

Well, the material for the adapter plates finally arrived and I got to it last night. I decided to make a sandwich adapter so there would be no need to remove the filter mount. At the same time, you keep the check valve which is located in the filter mount as well. You can spin the adapter whichever way you want, the cavity allows for it. The adapter in the picture was taken after a rough deburring and still doesn't have the holes drilled for the senders and remote lines. I'll probably have a finished kit for both types of adapters by next weekend.

Keep carving , I am anxious to see what you come up with.

I am making a complete replacement billet filter unit and it is a cumbersome task. Yours may be more sell able, as mine starts out with a 4x4x4 chunk of 6061 and will probably cost more than people will want to spend.

Paul

[Canuck YYC]

Completely irrelevant of course, but we buy 36 x 24 x 24 blocks of 6061 for some projects Every time I look at them, I have a whole host of bad, bad ideas.

[Shadow]

Have you guys seen the adapter that miller sells?
It's pretty expensive at 200$, but it look like it'll work.

[paul burke]

Have you guys seen the adapter that miller sells?
It's pretty expensive at 200$, but it look like it'll work.

Would like to see that Miller adapter. Can't navigate their site, Its like driving in the dark with only one low beam working. Can you post the link?


Paul

[Shadow]

Sure.
That miller site sucks.

Looks like an m50 one.

http://millerperformancecars.com/catalo ... duct_id=36

[paul burke]

That looks like a remote mount for the canister that adapts it into one of the cooler lines. What do they use at the block? Seems this just adds to the already cluttered engine compartment instead of simplifying it.


Paul

[Shadow]

What do you mean?
Yeah, it's just the lid for the oil filter.

Like this m50's

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u51/ ... C00538.jpg


I don't like it either since it doesn't have a thermostat.
The stock m20 one is excellent, but totally different.

[paul burke]

Must only work on the E32/34 filter assembly,as it won't bolt to the E28 filter head.

Paul

[Jordanmilos]

I've been looking at the plate for about an hour now, trying to figure out whether I like the whole relocation idea. I think I need to look at my E24 a bit more and figure out if the Trans-Dapt kit is the way to go. I could always modify the plates to accept a spin on filter but then it loses its effectiveness when it comes to running a cooler. The only thing I can think of is making a simplified version for those who never wanted a cooler to begin with and just need a place for senders and sensors. The remote filter idea would make oil changes easier and at the same time, provide a good system to add a cooler to. You could run the cooler after filtration and keep the pressure up. Just thinking aloud here.

[Jordanmilos]

Keep carving , I am anxious to see what you come up with.

I am making a complete replacement billet filter unit and it is a cumbersome task. Yours may be more sell able, as mine starts out with a 4x4x4 chunk of 6061 and will probably cost more than people will want to spend.

Paul

Thanks for the encouragement. I agree on the cost. Once you add the time up, you laugh at your "profit". I'd still much rather do this than bore out throttle bodies, less flaming and more CNC fun :-)

[Jordanmilos]

So, here's the final product. I put the senders in to give an idea of what the extra ports can be used for. In this case its oil temp and oil pressure. Hoses are 30in long and at this point, mounting location looks to be on the drivers wheel well. I would envision the coolant expansion tank bracket as a good place.

[Brad D.]

That looks fantastic. Any estimation on price?

[Jordanmilos]

Everything you see in the pic will run you $195. Take away the senders and the price comes down to $155. I will include the hardware needed to finish the job. You can use the stock bolt to put it in place but it sticks out a bit. I made a mistake in ordering the replacement bolts and actually got longer ones instead of shorter ones. That however gave me another idea to make these work on the B35 motors as well.

[Brad D.]

I'd say that's a good deal.

[Shadow]

Is that a remote mount kit so you can use
a spin on?

Is the stock drop in not a good one?

[Jordanmilos]

Big Bronze Rim,

Thanks for the kind words. I'm not looking to get rich off of these, just covering my expenses and time.

The stock one works just fine. I prefer spin on filters because they facilitate easier oil changes. This also adds the option for an oil cooler as well as the two ports which could run senders or feed lines for the guys out there who have turbos. I can throw in a small oil cooler into the deal if anyone wants one. I'll dig them up and snap some pics. Right now I can offer a complete system minus a couple of feet of hose and some fittings for under $200. Get yourself some senders and gauges and you can have gauges, a remote filter, and an oil cooler for under $300.

[Scottinva]

Um where do I put an application, I want one =D

[Shadow]

Cool.
What filter will you use?
Those big "racing" v8 ones would
be sick.


How much longer does it take to
get to operating temp with no thermostat?

Can the oil be overcooled with no thermostat?
thanks.

Will this work for the b35 block?

[Jeremy]

All stock oil and water thermostats are retained in his setup. The device bolts on where the canister normally goes using a similar method, and the oil thermostat is in the housing.

Jeremy

[Jordanmilos]

I was just about to mention the thermostat bit but Jeremy beat me to it. The oil filter used comes from Ford V8 engines. The most common one is the PH8A from Fram. The one I would recommend using is the Mobil M1-301. You can get them on Fleabay (item #330285359214 at $7 a piece with a minimum order of 6). Its where I get mine from and its half the price versus getting one from Advance Auto for $13. Most of the better filters are made by Champion Labs. This kit will not work on B35 engines, at least not yet. I can make a block off plate with just the fittings, similar to the kit Bruno used to sell on BMWe34.net. I entertained the idea of making this fit a B35 canister as well, I'll see where it goes but the other kit would be at least $15 cheaper.

[Jeremy]

Just occured to me: is there any issue with mounting on a oil cooler vs non-oil cooler equipped car? One bolts in from the top, the other bolts in from the bottom as I remember. Is it as simple as using a nut/bolt for non-cooler equipped cars and a proper length bolt for oil cooler filter heads?

Jeremy

[Jordanmilos]

Yup, simple as that. I provide the copper washers and locknut. I can tell you that when the adapter is mounted, it adds 1.150 inches to the thickness from the lip of the mount. I suppose you coule always fit it and mark the original bolt to see what length you need.

[Jordanmilos]

I have three basic kits ready to go at $155. For these first three, I'll drill out the two extra ports any way you want them. I also have two sets of VDO pressure and temp sensors (NEW) for an extra $40 (below my cost). I can install these and give you a head start with gauges. I was also told by my powder coater that he'd be willing to coat them at $22.50 a piece, which is a pretty good deal compared to what he charges me for throttle bodies. I will make more if there is a demand for them, otherwise they'll become another demo part for visitors to stare at when they come through the shop :-)