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1.5 coils cut up front on unknown lowering springs. 2 coils cut rear on stock springs w/blown shocks. Tires are too tall, I know. New ones coming in Spring.
Summer is going to bring some Bilstein Sports w/Spax. Also have some adjustible sways waiting on me to get some new brackets & bushings. Before then I'll probably cut another coil just for shits and giggles. I do have a spare oil pan.
Summer is going to bring some Bilstein Sports w/Spax. Also have some adjustible sways waiting on me to get some new brackets & bushings. Before then I'll probably cut another coil just for shits and giggles. I do have a spare oil pan.
I drove Mikes 6 from Tennesse to Chicago on your coilovers haha. It was a bit harsh but I still would definitely want them. Playing with the valving a bit should help out.Fox wrote:
D Unit asked what I was thinking. Looks great! One ride in my car and you'll definitely be praising the spax setup. I need to do some shocks overhauling and revalving. If I ever go back to springs, spax is definitely top on my list.
Rofl! I forgot about the 6er for a minute. Well, I don't know when the front koni's blew, must have been very shortly after we put the coilovers in mine...so those are done. I don't even know what shocks are now in the front, whatever Luci decided to throw in there, but it's pretty bad right now. The front is definitely more enjoyable than sitting in the rear, which you're probably aware of. I got airborne off the seat sitting in the back while Mike M. was driving on the freeway, from the bounce. That was pretty cool.Moose wrote:I drove Mikes 6 from Tennesse to Chicago on your coilovers haha. It was a bit harsh but I still would definitely want them. Playing with the valving a bit should help out.Fox wrote:
D Unit asked what I was thinking. Looks great! One ride in my car and you'll definitely be praising the spax setup. I need to do some shocks overhauling and revalving. If I ever go back to springs, spax is definitely top on my list.
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You might want to go back to the first post, where he says "and your thoughts on the ride quality"C.R. Krieger wrote:You guys do realize that the antiroll bars are totally irrelevant to ride height and that the shocks, if gas-charged, only make an infinitesimal difference. All you're looking at is the difference in springs and wheel sizes ...
Antiroll bars have a lot to do with ride quality, my friend.
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anti roll bar doesnt effect ride quality. there for ANTI ROLL!!! as in around corners not straight roads or bumps. if you know how to set up roll bars and not bind them then you will not effect ride quailty.4playcamaro wrote:You might want to go back to the first post, where he says "and your thoughts on the ride quality"C.R. Krieger wrote:You guys do realize that the antiroll bars are totally irrelevant to ride height and that the shocks, if gas-charged, only make an infinitesimal difference. All you're looking at is the difference in springs and wheel sizes ...
Antiroll bars have a lot to do with ride quality, my friend.
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if you want to know how to adjust them you need hiem end links and read up about it, other wise your awesome roll bars aint doing shit.
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Amen.mooseheadm5 wrote:They do something regardless of whether you have the end links adjusted properly or not, but the rate changes.
They do have a small contribution to ride quality. Whenever you go over a bump with just one wheel the bar becomes active.
I just finished installing mine, and adjusted to the tight end, the ride DID get firmer, and softer when set to the loose side.
My $0.02
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Amen.mooseheadm5 wrote:They do something regardless of whether you have the end links adjusted properly or not, but the rate changes.
They do have a small contribution to ride quality. Whenever you go over a bump with just one wheel the bar becomes active.
I just finished installing mine, and adjusted to the tight end, the ride DID get firmer, and softer when set to the loose side.
My $0.02
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What is the ride quality like? How would it hold up to the crappy roads in the DC/ Metropolitan area?mooseheadm5 wrote:I am.M3dren wrote:+1 ^^
out of curiosity, is anyone running full spax shocks + springs? i've searched but haven't found too many pictures of that. i get mostly a mix of spax springs + blisteins or spax shocks + gc coil conversions. also wondering how it rode as well on a dd
+1^ on the ride quality?thrty8street wrote:What is the ride quality like? How would it hold up to the crappy roads in the DC/ Metropolitan area?mooseheadm5 wrote:I am.M3dren wrote:+1 ^^
out of curiosity, is anyone running full spax shocks + springs? i've searched but haven't found too many pictures of that. i get mostly a mix of spax springs + blisteins or spax shocks + gc coil conversions. also wondering how it rode as well on a dd
yeah i've seen that pic on your site, just wondering if there are more pics of the ride height or of other cars with the same setup. sometimes certain angles just aren't enough to sell you on it hehe. i'm thinking of either doing this setup or dishing out for coilovers or possibly even bags
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switch3d wrote:once again how is the ride quality with spax springs and billie sports? I am looking to lower my 85 535i and want the lowest spring I can get with out having to bounce around like a honda civic kid on VW springs.
Alot of you guys must be really picky about ride quality. I got spax and billy sports and its not harsh, its not bouncy, its smooth and relaxing. Mind you before the car was on some cheap 50 buck ebay coilovers with the springs cut to 3 inchs all around..... That shit was horrid and bouncy.
The ride quality is better than any of my other cars i have lowered before. Helps im on stockers with huge side walls though
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It appears that you, me, and the guy in Thailand may be the only ones who know we have these springs. Hell; Kohler's never even seen 'em. I just picked up a full set from a guy at bigcoupe.com. I've been trying to find any information on them so I can have some Bilsteins valved for them, but I'm getting nowhere. Today, I finally pulled the part numbers and verified that they are, indeed, BBS springs - even though BBS doesn't seem to acknowledge them anywhere online.ahab wrote:... under BBS progressive rate springs and Billie Sports. Not too sure about the pedigree of the BBS springs. They have BBS part numbers on them and I vaguely remember a suspension campaign back in the mid 80s but I've never ran across another pair.
stoph99 wrote:Do you know the part numbers of the BBS springs? I just picked up a pair of front BBS springs, stamped 2601012. The springs are tapered-- the gauge of the coil is thinner near the top.
Part numbers stamped on them are:
BBS2601012RBW (front)
BBS2601013RBW (rear)
They are noticeably tapered both front and rear and painted black. The fronts have a yellow paint streak on the second coil and a red spot at the top while the rears have two yellow (maybe yellow-green; remember who's colorblind ) spots on the second or third coil. Any further information would be appreciated.
Oh; and stoph99 - I think they're tapered near the bottom. If someone's going to go to the bother of making tapered springs, I'm pretty damn sure they'll tell you to put the thin part at the bottom so the unsprung weight is lower (because a coil spring goes from being sprung weight at the top to unsprung weight at the bottom).
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Heyoo cut springs, 175/65 tires on 14x7 et11 BBS's.
I believe it's at 4 coils in the front and 3 in the back, raking but not too badly. Ride is stiff as anything but it doesn't bother me, I'm still young.
And yes, the weird thing on the side of my car is the exhaust. Was at a buddy's shop redoing the exhaust and we got a little too rowdy with some extra pipe we found. Judge me if you want, I think it's kinda cool.
I believe it's at 4 coils in the front and 3 in the back, raking but not too badly. Ride is stiff as anything but it doesn't bother me, I'm still young.
And yes, the weird thing on the side of my car is the exhaust. Was at a buddy's shop redoing the exhaust and we got a little too rowdy with some extra pipe we found. Judge me if you want, I think it's kinda cool.
Matched BMW Bilstein shocks and MTech springs:
PNs:
31-33-2-225-646 COIL SPRI
31-32-2-225-662 SHOCK ABS
33-53-2-225-654 COIL SPRI
33-52-2-225-666 SHO
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23126255@N05/
PNs:
31-33-2-225-646 COIL SPRI
31-32-2-225-662 SHOCK ABS
33-53-2-225-654 COIL SPRI
33-52-2-225-666 SHO
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23126255@N05/
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'87 535is, Billy Sports and BavAuto springs, E90 drop hats, 16x8 et23 style 5s, 225/50/16s
'84 520i, All stock, 2.5 coils cut in front, 2 coils cut in back. Note this is a 520i, and about 400-500 lbs lighter than your standard US spec E28. Same wheel/tire setup as above.
'88? 528e, same as above, stock w/ 2.5/2.0 coils cut front/back. Same wheel/tire setup as above. You can see a trend here...
Also, please sticky this thread!
Also, I think if you have front/rear shots in addition to side shots, that would be just as helpful. I would especially like to see rear camber as a result of lowering, and any fixes, such as adjustable subframes, etc.
'84 520i, All stock, 2.5 coils cut in front, 2 coils cut in back. Note this is a 520i, and about 400-500 lbs lighter than your standard US spec E28. Same wheel/tire setup as above.
'88? 528e, same as above, stock w/ 2.5/2.0 coils cut front/back. Same wheel/tire setup as above. You can see a trend here...
Also, please sticky this thread!
Also, I think if you have front/rear shots in addition to side shots, that would be just as helpful. I would especially like to see rear camber as a result of lowering, and any fixes, such as adjustable subframes, etc.