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Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: Mar 07, 2019 7:24 PM
by Chimi-Changa
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: Mar 09, 2019 5:02 AM
by Boneyard Dynamics
Hello,
the most important thing about cutting the hole for the window switch is, to never cut it as large as it is shown on the backside, because it is often prestamped to large. The best solution is to start smaller and then widen it up until the switch fits in.
greetings,
Wolfgang
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: Mar 23, 2019 12:03 AM
by wkohler
Lots of progress. Glad this car was saved!
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: May 08, 2019 2:38 PM
by Chimi-Changa
And the push is on for The Vintage! Working on a list prioritizing things, settling temp is top priority. At this point since my fuel gauge does not seem accurate I don't trust the dash temp gauge. I swapped in a VDO temp gauge into the dash pod and should have a sender here this week to hook it up. I did just replace the thermostat again last night and fan clutch, after a drive today it seemed better. Not 12 oclock but closer than it has been in a while. I've also installed a PLX AFM setup with a sensor to see what the mix is like. (Thanks for all the help with that Ahab)
Also still sorting injectors.... have Bosch 201's in there ( 24#, low ohm) and found out need 130's ( 19#, low ohm) to work with the 011 ECU and 018 AFM. Weird science was apparently going on in the 1982 year this motor came from. Still figuring out the aux air valve and how to tune things.
PLX setup, ill plan on mounting in glove box.
bung welded in for wideband sensor
Titanium, Yum.
Tool kit installed with new foam, and trunk light working
Front spoiler time, was a little tricky to put on solo, but think it came out allright. Just one area got a little scuffed by the bumper end. And it seems even lower to the ground than the RD one on my old car ( with M tech springs)- this car sits even lower. Have to be super careful.
I cant believe the handling difference it makes. Digs way more in on corners and feels super planted at higher speeds.
Time for some stripes
Interior coming together
Thanks for following along, and hope to see you all at Vintage
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: May 09, 2019 6:28 AM
by Das_Prachtstrasse
Looking awesome.
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: May 09, 2019 9:53 AM
by Adam W in MN
Such a cool build and the car is looking really nice. The front end look with the low hanging spoiler is mean.
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: May 09, 2019 1:49 PM
by Pavel
it's amazing that you had a vision of how you want to put this together down to the smallest details. Great work!
I wish I could see it in Hot Springs..
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: May 15, 2019 9:31 PM
by Preacher's 5
Great work. Looks like everything is coming together. I just installed the analog clock also. I like it a lot.
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: May 16, 2019 10:40 PM
by linen grey ghost
With you on the analog clock (replace the digital in mine) and the HVAC bulbs replacement, these cars have a DNA all their own.
Your car looks just fine, keep the shiney side up.
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: Jun 02, 2019 4:27 AM
by Blue Shadow
The air dam does make a big difference at speed. I've written about the first time I had BMW dam on the front of my car, a year after getting it.
Looks great.
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: Jul 29, 2019 9:01 PM
by Chimi-Changa
Good beer at this place, and BBQ next door. Pulled Pork Ruben's...So Good!
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: Jul 30, 2019 3:41 AM
by wkohler
Car looks awesome, Jamie. Has really come a long way. Almost can't believe it's the same car thinking back on the first photos I saw of it.
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: Aug 31, 2023 11:14 AM
by Chimi-Changa
It's been a bit! The shorter story is I have been driving and enjoying around ( inc 3 trips to NC). Have had some surprises, but that is par for the course I figure. Including, but not limited to a new head gasket a couple years ago after the second Vintage trip.
This summer, went to head swap to the Mike H. fully ported head with the B35 valves and springs and 290 cam. (and B35 intake) Ended up having some valve contact on the pistons ( via iphone scope ala Amazon)- and now here we go. So much "while I'm there" stuff and its looking like a full rebuild is due including oil pump. Now we are going for Hartge "SP" mode- Special Priest...
First trip down, photo by BenGerman
Hartge Master Minotaur blessing his tukkis on it:
Let the fun begin!
Gearbox and shaft pulled, 265/5 going in also ( and M5 heat shield fitted)
In the lab ( basement) besides some not so nice marks on the con rod bearings, plastiguage revealed the bearings were not correct. Had machine shop go over head, and measure crank. Ended up replacing 3 valves, valve pocket cut pistons, and measure/ polish crank. Also, new timing gears after noticing some wear on both sprockets.
No Bueno
"Fly Cut" Piano's
Ended up needing "Blue" BMW main bearings, and .25mm oversized con rod bearings ( rod journals had been machined at one point looks like)
Buttoned up bottom, measured, tested with plastiguage and torqued to spec:
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: Aug 31, 2023 11:29 AM
by harrypalmer
Jaimie,
Lovely car. Somehow I’ve been missing the ongoing improvements. Thank you for sharing and oh yeah! Personally I appreciate all the photos. Best of luck.
Jackie
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: Sep 19, 2023 2:06 PM
by Chimi-Changa
DP Lab progress? You 'betcha!
Was able to get the oil pump sprocket nut drilled, so now safety wired, and red loctited. Although was not loose, don't want to chance anything at this point.
Pan back on with new bolts. I was planning on reusing the old ones, but somehow misplaced 30 pan bolts! New gasket and Yamabond to seal it all up.
"Just zipped it on..."
Bread trick for the pilot bearing, and used the handy Ireland flywheel holder.
With the help of Mr Motronic, the block is now in. Transmission next!
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: Oct 06, 2023 3:05 PM
by Chimi-Changa
Did not include in previous post, but oil pump is now rebuilt:
The Dogleg is in! Thanks to Sam and his Dad for helping fabricate an extra side mount for it. ( the early ones just had one side mount on them)
Ben and I had this gearbox in in 1.5 hours, including beverage breaks.
Now using the console shifter, which I'm not thrilled about- but doesn't seem too bad so far.
New OEM 265 driveshaft installed, they now have non collar nut splines- which I heard are not fun to take apart. Hope this one lasts a while!
Head on! With ARP's and new oil bar.
M30b34 head- 290 Cam, B35 valves and springs, Korman HD rockers, Ireland rocker locks, and shafts pinned, now fully ported to match B35 intake.
Intake porting:
Example of Hartge intake porting:
I'm using Bav Auto long tube headers on this motor, but here's what the Hartge short tube headers look like on it. Just for funsies:
Getting there, intake on and some things getting sorted:
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: Oct 09, 2023 7:51 AM
by RoyW
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: Dec 04, 2023 9:19 PM
by Chimi-Changa
Thank you Roy!
Now have this whole thing back together. Stoked, but wait...Oil pressure took way to long to build, even dry cranking for over a minute. Did that for a few times and still nothing- and thanks to Christian and Ben had a sense of oil flow. The filter is the first stop from the pump. So pulled the housing off the block, and used one of those fluid syringes to push oil up and down the passages. I filled housing as best I could ( bolt is from bottom on oil cooler housings) and WALLAH it worked.
Oil light off, and pressure on the dash gauge.
Hartge valve cover underside:
Ok, this puppy is now rolling! Preformed break in for piston rings, and cam. Oil changes galore as should be done. Getting used to the 265 dogleg took a little bit as did the wonky ass console shiter. With a 3.25S out back- it tachs up there at speed. Highway driving in the 3-4K range. Would love to find a 3.07S or 2.93S for it. ( anyone...)
This setup requires a custom tune for the 179 ECU. I cant THANK Sam L enough for his help emailing over tunes that I was able to burn and run. Idle is apprx 1000, and he did a little magic with advance, etc. ( Sammy Secret Sauce)
Impressions- WORTH IT. Smooth, strong power all the way up, quickly- especially down low. Before I had to downshift, now I can just hit it from pretty much any gear and its on. Really nice visceral feel and feedback. And nothing like that hot cam idle. This is what I hoped was going to be the next phase for it- and super happy with the results.
Thanks for all that helped so far
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: Dec 08, 2023 5:31 AM
by Das_Prachtstrasse
Right on, Jamie. So glad to hear it was worth the journey for you!
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: Mar 26, 2024 4:29 PM
by Chimi-Changa
Winter hibernation mode up here in the North East still but getting some things done while it has a roof over its head. I heard some humming noise on the way up to storage coming from the back, so some investigation will go on if it's the bearing or final drive related. Plans are to make it to Vintage again this year- so Prep is ON.
On the list are new tires. I've kept these Bridgestone Potenza's on it as long as I think I could ( they are from 2013) Going M5 tire size, so plan on pinch rolling the rear fenders with the et 13 offset for this square Hartge set. ( also have some 16" RA's plan to refinish someday)
Offseason stable
Trying to have more accuracy of the RPM's now with the engine rebuild, I've switched back to the standard RPM tach. ( not that my motor rev's to 8000 RPM anyway
)
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: Aug 06, 2024 10:36 AM
by Chimi-Changa
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: Aug 14, 2024 12:21 PM
by Nebraska_e28
Congrats on the win!
I recall seeing that car before it was given a new lease on life. Guess it's like the terminator. Rebuilt bigger and badder!
Re: Operation Hartge Jr. (Dirty Priest)
Posted: Nov 22, 2024 6:52 PM
by Chimi-Changa