Ultimate E28 Interior (was Engine Choices)

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Impress me. Build something badass and electric.
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cek wrote:It tuns out that this car will be (already is) Arcticblau
Good color. I'd totally dump all of my E28s for an excellent arctic blue car. My first E28 (and car) was an arctic blue 535i. I'd like another one, not for sentimental reasons, but only because the simple lines always seemed to look nice rendered in arctic blue and complimented by the small bits of bright work.

As far as the engine goes, the S54 recipe like Sia's car would definitely be nice. I would have no complaints! I think even the 3.0L M54 would be fine for me, as that engine is very nice in my E39 530i and contained inside a less refined and lighter car with a more raucous exhaust, should definitely raise the enjoyment level.
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cek wrote:
leadphut wrote:or you could buy Ivo's friend's car for $30k and save yourself some time and money.
Journey > Destination.
In that case, I'll buy it when you are done (and by definition, bored).

N54 please.

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I agree with Tammer - N54, chipped, with a big oil cooler. I'll call second dibs.
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athayer187 wrote:I agree with Tammer - N54, chipped, with a big oil cooler. I'll call second dibs.
Dunno why I didn't think of it on my first post to this thread. Chipped N54 pulls like a big V8 with monstrous torque, fits without fouling the steering box, is smooth as any other BMW inline-6, and can be pushed to 400whp conservatively.

I am sure the wiring would be a complete cluster, but I haven't looked into it at all. If people can run the S54 stock ECU in older cars, I am sure an N54 can be managed.

Now I am thinking about that for the E34T ... a torquey, not peaky, motor suits that car's character well. TCD kit on the M30 is way cheaper and I have half the parts already, though ...

-tammer (something in the works)
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You bought that awesome euro shell, didn't you?

I like the idea of a V8/6 speed swap. M60 would do fine for me. Enough power, great sound, and 6 gears.
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oldskool wrote:Impress me. Build something badass and electric.
Now we're talking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVkJjt_Peg0
http://www.evwest.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=40

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Yeah. Surprise me. That's what I'm squalking about.
Do it
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Wankel. 4 rotors. There is no better option.

If that's too ambitious, go radial.

If that's too ambitious, I don't much care about your car. Sell it, buy a Vaught Corsair, Supermarine Spitfire, or a Ford Trimotor.

Maybe a Sköda 1100.
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I don't think starting with the goal of building a car that will win awards is the right way to go about anything.

Build what you want. Not what others tell you to want.
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Dry sump 4liter s38 with ljet slide throttle itb's.
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wkohler wrote:I don't think starting with the goal of building a car that will win awards is the right way to go about anything.

Build what you want. Not what others tell you to want.
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x3 on the N54! That's at the forefront of what I'd want to put into mine, honestly, and since you have that Arctic Blue shell, you might as well build the car I'd like to build...except you know, the right way.

Whatever it is though, keep it Arctic Blue!!
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Anyone suggesting a LS motor, please show yourself the door
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well you want to daily drive the car so driveabiity is an ongoing concern. Weight can also be an issue. You dont want to mess up the weight distribution to much, I think the s54 is the way to go in order to accomplish your original goals. Just trick out the suspension with some ground control coilovers. You can also have an "M" button. I think it will be challenging to make the install look professional and to get it all running the way you want..

At some point more horsepower is just more horsepower and there is a risk reward in terms of driveability. Whatever you do I know it will be good as I have enjoyed reading your former builds and have always been impressed with your documentation in terms of providing Mye28 with content. Thanks.
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euro24 wrote:Anyone suggesting a LS motor, please show yourself the door
Simple, compact, LTW, inexpensive, reliable and any HP desired. Try applying those adjectives to any previously mentioned BMW engines.
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euro24 wrote:Anyone suggesting a LS motor, please show yourself the door
What a silly comment. What part of lighter than an S54, more power than an S54, more cheaply modded to S85+ power, more compact than just about anything other than a weeny 4-cylinder, robust,better fuel economy than an S54, and easily adapted to just about any chassis is bad?

Credit where due - the LS motor family is just about the best all-arounder engine family in decades.

Fucking snobbery.
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http://newyork.craigslist.org/jsy/pts/5035865437.html

This might be fun.. or at least sound good? STi EJ25. Maybe I'm just in an uncharacteristically JDM mode today. A Toyota V12 would also be cool.
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T_C_D wrote:
euro24 wrote:Anyone suggesting a LS motor, please show yourself the door
Simple, compact, LTW, inexpensive, reliable and any HP desired. Try applying those adjectives to any previously mentioned BMW engines.

Jake did a great job on this car

http://www.mye28.com/viewtopic.php?t=121997
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Tammer in Philly wrote:
euro24 wrote:Anyone suggesting a LS motor, please show yourself the door
What a silly comment. What part of lighter than an S54, more power than an S54, more cheaply modded to S85+ power, more compact than just about anything other than a weeny 4-cylinder, robust,better fuel economy than an S54, and easily adapted to just about any chassis is bad?

Credit where due - the LS motor family is just about the best all-arounder engine family in decades.

Fucking snobbery.
I don't want an LS motor for irrational reasons. A key reason is found in the title of this thread. I just can't stand the idea of mixing metric and imperial parts on a car. I had to deal with this on my FJ40...and I eventually ridded it of all the crap POs had put on that used imperial fastners. The thought of ME doing that intentionally just makes my skin crawl.
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cek wrote:
I don't want an LS motor for irrational reasons. A key reason is found in the title of this thread. I just can't stand the idea of mixing metric and imperial parts on a car. I had to deal with this on my FJ40...and I eventually ridded it of all the crap POs had put on that used imperial fastners. The thought of ME doing that intentionally just makes my skin crawl.
LSx motors are 100% metric fasteners.
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T_C_D wrote:
cek wrote:
I don't want an LS motor for irrational reasons. A key reason is found in the title of this thread. I just can't stand the idea of mixing metric and imperial parts on a car. I had to deal with this on my FJ40...and I eventually ridded it of all the crap POs had put on that used imperial fastners. The thought of ME doing that intentionally just makes my skin crawl.
LSx motors are 100% metric fasteners.
Really?!?! Hmmm....

I just assumed...

Hmm....
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cek wrote:
T_C_D wrote:
cek wrote:
I don't want an LS motor for irrational reasons. A key reason is found in the title of this thread. I just can't stand the idea of mixing metric and imperial parts on a car. I had to deal with this on my FJ40...and I eventually ridded it of all the crap POs had put on that used imperial fastners. The thought of ME doing that intentionally just makes my skin crawl.
LSx motors are 100% metric fasteners.
Really?!?! Hmmm....

I just assumed...

Hmm....
Yup, I mentioned it...post #2

LS motor swaps, while awesome, have become ubiquitous to the point that it probably wouldn't garner the attention that wins shows. Even if it was blessed with The Kindel Experience (TM)

That's why I'd love to see an N54. While I'm sure they're out there, you hardly see them as much as you do LS or S5x motor swaps. If they can pull like a freight train in a lard-ass E60 or F10...I can only imagine how an N54-swapped E28 would do. It would be a much more, um, interesting experience for you as well (which is what you mentioned earlier)

Once you see how stupid easy it is to put an LS together (it's like playing with legos) then it loses some of its sparkle. Still kick-ass feat of engineering, though.
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cek wrote:
Tammer in Philly wrote:
euro24 wrote:Anyone suggesting a LS motor, please show yourself the door
What a silly comment. What part of lighter than an S54, more power than an S54, more cheaply modded to S85+ power, more compact than just about anything other than a weeny 4-cylinder, robust,better fuel economy than an S54, and easily adapted to just about any chassis is bad?

Credit where due - the LS motor family is just about the best all-arounder engine family in decades.

Fucking snobbery.
I don't want an LS motor for irrational reasons. A key reason is found in the title of this thread. I just can't stand the idea of mixing metric and imperial parts on a car. I had to deal with this on my FJ40...and I eventually ridded it of all the crap POs had put on that used imperial fastners. The thought of ME doing that intentionally just makes my skin crawl.
It's fine if you don't WANT it. None of this car shit is 100% rational, and you want want you want. No problem.

What isn't cool is conflating "I don't want it" (subjective) with "it sucks" (more objective, and in this case, wrong). That's what irritates me. No need to knock what you don't want, unless there is some objective or measurable reason that it is inferior to what you do want.
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I am of the view that it defeats the purpose of owning/driving a E28 if it doesn't have a m30 engine. That's where its soul resides. My brother's stock E28-mB34 and Z4M-S54 are so totally opposite and yet I understand the eagerness of wanting such engine swap like the much admired Sia's ride, or TDC's latest corvette engined mega fun rocket (there should be a drooling smily just for that car, although it would not look good I guess).

I'd vote for any of the below engine swaps but possibly would add a 6 Speed to match if feasible.

- B35 Turbo by T_C_D (You already did this engine conversion on Vlad)
- B34 US 8.1 compression Non-Cat with a Turbo by T_C_D
- B34 Euro 10.1 compression (dirty engine) Non-cat with a Turbo by T_C_D
- Stroker from Korman
- S38 M5 You know you really long for

Charlie, with all do respect let your sweat and money make the best award winning E28 but as WKohler once said it best in your own Vlad thread; don't make it into what is not.
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