Re: 1985 Arktisblau M535i Renovation - Progression
Re: 1985 Arktisblau M535i Renovation - Progression
You may have been wondering what has been up with me and the M535i this Spring (well, maybe not all of you, but some of you for sure. At least one or two). Some of you are aware of my latest project and I have been leaking a few photos here and there. I have been overwhelmed and too busy to actually post anything until now; even now I really don’t have the time to do this post complete justice and make it one of those “Epic Restoration Threads” we are all so fond of here.
This is the condensed version of what all I have been doing since December right up this past weekend. I embarked on what I have titled the Front End Overhaul phase of my ownership for my 1985 M535i. This is actually the second phase of an overall renovation since I bought this car in 2010 (the first part was the Rear End of the car and Fuel System done over two years from 2012 & 2013). The Engine Bay and Front End were the last big areas of the car to tackle in terms of repairs, cleaning, upgrades, and beautification. The car was/is already pretty clean and a show winner (Concours and Popular), but I knew the engine bay was holding this car back from moving up to the next level. Living here in SoCal and the west among some truly fanatical collectors/restorers not to mention some pretty stiff competition in Concours circles is a double-edged sword. It is all at once inspiring, humbling and a bit discouraging. Luckily I count all these folks as friends and many of whom are incredibly supportive so the competition is mostly friendly. Since this year is the 100 Centennial of BMW and Car Week & OctoberFest in Monterery, California will be the high-point of the celebration (at least west of the Mississippi) I was convinced to attend this year (my first time bringing a BMW). As such I decided this was the time to embark on this project. However let me be clear: I am doing this project because I want to, because I have always wanted to do this to a car and not because I'm trying to keep up with Mr.Jones. I am at a point in my life where I actually have a car worthy of this effort.
First off, this is the synopsized scope of work:
-Engine Resealing (Gaskets, etc.)
-Transmission Resealing (Gaskets, etc.)
-New Rebuilt Driveshaft & Mounts
-New Shifter & Bushings (Z3 1.9 Shifter, E28 Linkage)
-New Cooling System, complete
-New Front Suspension & Steering Components (all except original Dinan & Bilstein equipment)
-New Oil System (Filter, Head, Cooler, Lines)
-Overhaul Hydraulic System (New components, Lines, Hoses)
-New Electrical System (Alternator, Fuse Box, Harness Re-taping)
-Re-do Headlight Washer & Wiper System
-Re-do Front Lighting (Repair Lens Hardware, New Turn Signals, New Wiring, New Low Beam Lens)
-Re-do Front Brakes (New Rotors, Rebuild E32 750i Calipers, New Backplates, New Pads)
-Re-do Front Struts (New Wheel Bearings, New Sensors, New Spring Pads & Mounts)
-New Rear Brakes (Replacement Rebuilt E34 540i Rear Calipers, New Pads)
-Re-do Air Condition System (New Hoses & Lines, New/Re-furbish Condenser, New Drier)
-New Exhaust System, complete
-Refinish Parts: Cleaning, Plating, Powder-coating, Tumbling (Oil Pan, Timing Covers, Intake & Exhaust Manifolds, Valve Covers, etc.)
In short pretty much everything forward of the Firewall gets addressed one way or another (with new Rear Brakes thrown in which is a continuation/completion of the Rear End Refurb from a few years back).
I started this over the holidays this past December 2015; it was a bit of a late start as I had planned on starting this back in November right after the SoCal Vintage BMW Meet. But life, the house, work and the holidays put the Kibosh on that so I couldn’t carve out any solid productive time until after Christmas. I lifted the car and started demo & tear-down on Tuesday 12/29. The Monday before I drove the car down from the hangar and had the A/C system discharged and drained. The drive back turned into a fun spirited one as I wanted to enjoy the M one last time and bank some of that goodness before tearing the whole thing apart and having it off the road for the next 7 months. After doing that, I promptly closed the hangar and left the whole thing for the entire month of January so I could finish this (the final 1% of which we are still trying to complete):
But that is for another thread.
PART I: PREPARATION & DISMANTLING
Since I had a long list of small mini-projects of sorts to handle in the engine bay, I decided to remove the engine and transmission entirely so as to get access to everything expediently and efficiently. I have never done this before so this was a going to have some challenges full of learning curves.
I raised the car up on a set of rear wheel ramps and the front up on a set of large 10 ton tall truck jack stands. These are from Sunex and start at 18.5” extending up to 31” and have a 21” footprint; these are really heavy duty and have proven to be worth the investment. Without access to a real lift, this setup was the next best thing.
Of course I couldn’t do this without this invaluable tool: a Long Frame High Reach Floor Jack. This one was a Craigslist find Central Hydraulics (aka Harbor Freight):
First up was a collective weekend of photo documenting everything and researching. I have been taking extensive photos and even a video or two since I started (the amount has officially crossed into “Crap-ton” designation). However I know that of the many photos I took, I am going to be missing a critical one (or ten); it’s inevitable.
Next up was the better part of a day draining every system: Cooling, Hydraulic, Steering, Brakes, Transmission, and Oil:
After all of that, the body protection went on to secure it for the long haul during the rest of demolition so it ended up looking like this for the last 5 months:
I have folders of photos of the dismantlement all the various systems and parts that took place over the last 5 months; too many, but here are a few:
Eventually I ended up here, with the engine & transmission ready to come out:
PART II: ENGINE & TRANSMISSION REMOVAL
There was some debate amongst the “crew” (i.e. Ralph and Phil, my steadfast assistants in this next phase) and a few minds here on the best way to get these out of the car. Due to the fact that I had loosened the front struts already and the car was in the air as high as it was, I decided to do the only sensible thing: drop the Whole Kit-n-Kaboodle out the bottom (you can almost envision the whole assembly: engine, trans, subframe, struts - dropping down below like some 500lb bomb out of the bomb bay of a B-17 in that picture above). Of course it wasn’t that simple in reality.
First I had to raise the front end even higher to be able for the Intake to clear the M-Tech front valance once it landed on the rolling cart I set up below. This meant raising the jack stands up another peg or two and chocking the hell out of the rear wheels on the wheel stands.
The Engine Cart: a couple of furniture dollies, some 2x4’s and ¾’ plywood:
Other than a slight miscalculation with the width of the cart and trying to fix it on the fly, lowering it was surprisingly easy with the aid of the trusty big orange HF floor jack and some safety support from an engine hoist above.
From here it was time to break down the engine and transmission for their overhaul.
PART III: ENGINE & TRANSMISSION
The goals with the engine and transmission were nothing too grand: replace gaskets, remove & refinish some parts and/or replace with new parts, inspect the Timing Chain Guides, and clean everything thoroughly.
First was the breakdown of the rest to the parts on the block: Intake & Exhaust Manifolds:
Starter, et al:
After all that was removed (including the Front Struts), it was time to tackle the famed Front Crank Hub Nut, or “Jesus Nut”. In hindsight I should have loosened this first prior to even raising the car, but oh well. I figured with enough mass of the block and transmission along with it being bolted down to the cart, we would have enough dissipated mass to counter-act the overturning momentum. That was optimistic. First we tried Ralph’s homemade Crank Hub Holder Tool seen here:
When we applied the counter-force with the 4x Torque Multiplier and 48” breaker bar, his tool squealed like a pig and promptly sheared at the threads of the iron pipe just above his weld (in retrospect he shouldn’t have made the weld at the threaded end; he knows that now).
Next up was to locate the proper tool: SIR Tool’s BMW 3043 for the M30. A few days later it arrived and we were back at it the next weekend. Well, while the SIR Tool held (once we added and extension which braced it to the floor), we couldn’t get the leverage we needed and not have the block over-turn the cart (no matter how many of our fat buts were sitting on it). We switched up to pneumatic force after that:
Voila, it worked. But victory came at a cost: the SIR Tool suffered an irreparable blow and ended up looking like this:
SIR Tool and the seller (HandsOnTools.com) stepped up and replaced the tool free of charge, so it worked out. And of course, that nut was off so we off to the races.
I removed the Transmission and Bell Housing , removed the nuts holding the Motor Mounts to the Subframe and prepped the engine hoist and stand.
Then get the block on the engine stand for the remainder of work:
I decided to try using a light blast media to clean off the grime prior to going at it with degreaser. I used this setup: Walnut shell in a light duty small spot blaster:
This little setup works just okay and really could benefit from a more powerful compressor behind it (we have yet to get our 5hp Sanborn up and running). But for a light general cleaning it does the trick once you get used to the eccentricities of this blaster. The blasting was done to cut my degreasing and scouring down to a minimum. For that purpose, it worked rather well. In order to pull this off without sending media all over the hangar and my hangar-mates’ cars, I constructed a Dexter-style clean room to contain everything:
After the blasting, I removed the covers: Valve, Oil Pan, Timing:
Surprised to find the Valve Cover this clean underneath. Clean living I suppose:
The rest of it was as I was suspecting:
The head was rebuilt back in 1989 at just 57,620 miles with a new Camshaft, Rockers and Lifters. Don’t really know why (suspect overheating), there were no notes on the service invoice. But the Lifters all have an ’88 date stamp on them so it checks out. The rest of engine and car are now just at over 196,000 miles.
This booth and walnut shell worked well for the degreasing that followed also:
And block painting: Gloss Black from Bill Hirsch Automotive Coatings:
I’m pretty impressed with this stuff: it went on smooth and flowed really well (brushed). It has the reputation of being like iron when it cures. I had prepped the block beforehand after the blasting (degreased, wire brushed, sanded) then treated it with their Metal Prep spray. This attacked the rusted areas and converted it to a zinc surface which then could be painted directly.
The results stand for themselves:
Ready to put it all back together.
In the meantime, time to pull the transmission and clutch apart to see what’s what and cleaning:
Clutch still looks pretty good with a lot of disc still left:
I will replace the Clutch Fork, Spring and Ball Pin while I’m in there. Cleaned the case and Bellhousing up and ready to go back together. I’m probably going to powder coat the Bellhousing (since everything else down underneath is powder coated):
PART IV: FRONT STRUTS
While all that with the block was going on, I was multitasking by working on the Front Struts. After dismantling them from the Subframe, it was time to tear them down. The existing Dinan Stage 3 Suspension will remain so the Springs and Bilstein Sports will go back in with new mounts and hardware.
The goal was to get them apart to achieve the following:
-New Spring Plates & Pads
-New Upper Strut Mounts
-New Wheel Bearings (even though the old ones still seem to be pretty smooth)
-New Brake Back Plates
-Clean and Powder Coat Strut
Tear down:
Time to get the Axle Hub Nut off:
I had to scramble a bit to find someone that had a 46mm socket on a shelf so I could work that coming weekend. I wasn’t looking ahead and didn’t plan to pick this up earlier; luckily my local O’Reilly’s ordered it from their regional warehouse and I had it the next afternoon. Time for a little pneumatic persuasion:
Once I got the struts apart, it was clear they needed some attention. The reinforced driver’s side Sway Bar Mount was cracked at the rather sloppy weld. That was sent off to Aero Welding for a quick fix along with the M5 Subframe that needed the Steering Box Mount reinforced.
The bottom of the spring cup was starting to show ugliness also (both struts showed this):
Spent some time cleaning up the bottom of the spindles :
Struts are back from Powder Coater and the Brake Back Plates have just arrived from Silver Springs so it’s time to start re-assembly.
PART V: BRAKES
This car has a Stage V Big Brake Upgrade (E32 750/E34 540) which I contemplating changing up to E34 M5 Front Brakes, but opted to stay with the existing brake setup. I will also be replacing the existing older style E32 Rear Calipers this go around with newer E34 Calipers. Included is a new E32 Master Cylinder also. New UUC Stainless Steel lines were put in when I did the Rear End Overhaul.
(I realized I didn’t take any photos of this step since I had them apart in about 15 minutes and my hands were full at the time). I just got them back from being Yellow Zinc plated, so time to rebuild them and get them back in; replacing the rears will probably be one of the last things I do.
PART VI: HYDRAULIC SYSTEM
One of the primary goals of this exercise was to be able to replace the 32 year old, leaking Hydraulic System (okay I admit that it was really to clean up after a 32 year old, leaking Hydraulic System, but that’s my OCD side talking). With the engine out and the car raised this is a significantly easier task, but still a messy prospect.
Tear Down:
Including the ABS Pump (which was a complete mess):
I’m still debating whether or not to complete taking the pump apart and cleaning out the insides (as per this:http://www.mye28.com/viewtopic.php?f=3& ... h#p1339558) Since I’m likely to refinish and repaint the pump along with re-plate the case screws, taking apart the last few elements on the pump is only a few more steps. The pump does appear to be weeping, so that may settle my own debate right there.
As to rest of the system I began with disconnecting the hydraulic lines from the ABS Pump to the Master Cylinder & Booster, removing the connecting hardware, and removing Distribution T’s for replacement. Cleaned all the connection fittings as well on the hard lines (they were pretty gunked up and corroded at the ABS Pump):
I have a rebuilt M5 Steering Gear/Box (well it’s supposed to be one at least); it’s ready to go in:
Without the ID plate, all I have to go on are the markings on the outer case:
PART VII: CLEANING ENGINE BAY & UNDERCARRIAGE
This brings us up to last weekend; while you all were enjoying your days off, visiting with family & friends, taking some time to remember the fallen, I was neck-deep in grime and cleaning solvents. Since one of the main goals of this exercise was to get this car to Concours level, it meant getting dirty; very dirty. And wet. This is what the hangar looked like all weekend:
First it was the wheel wells:
Then it was the engine bay:
Then it was time to get really messy and get under the car. This was the hardest car cleaning task I have ever taken on. I was a sight: Tyvek suit, full face respirator, and industrial chemical full sleeved gloves; wish I took a selfie. But it was necessary to do this: first what 32 years of grime looks like:
What progress looked like as you work down through the layers:
Then more or less completion:
After cleaning the engine bay and specifically the firewall I have to make a decision how to deal with the crumbling rubber sound & heat proofing. After this many years it’s kind of giving up the ghost:
I wasn’t planning on removing all the stuff on the firewall to be able to replace it all, so I may just trim off the lower section of the rubber parts and clean it up as best I can. I may look into some other rubber matting of sorts that I can but on the lower section into the transmission tunnel.
Monday saw me cleaning all the wire harnesses; at least I got to sit down in a chair for most of this:
So that leaves me up to this week. After cleaning up after the weekend (2 hours of mopping and the Hazmat Unit arriving), it looks ready for the re-assembly phase:
I got a lot of parts back the both Ultrasonic cleaning as well as the powder coaters. I just picked up the Yellow Zinc plating yesterday:
Up for this weekend is some engine bay paint touch-up and rust remediation (battery compartment), make a decision on the ABS Pump and start reviewing for the Fuse Box replacement.
This is the condensed version of what all I have been doing since December right up this past weekend. I embarked on what I have titled the Front End Overhaul phase of my ownership for my 1985 M535i. This is actually the second phase of an overall renovation since I bought this car in 2010 (the first part was the Rear End of the car and Fuel System done over two years from 2012 & 2013). The Engine Bay and Front End were the last big areas of the car to tackle in terms of repairs, cleaning, upgrades, and beautification. The car was/is already pretty clean and a show winner (Concours and Popular), but I knew the engine bay was holding this car back from moving up to the next level. Living here in SoCal and the west among some truly fanatical collectors/restorers not to mention some pretty stiff competition in Concours circles is a double-edged sword. It is all at once inspiring, humbling and a bit discouraging. Luckily I count all these folks as friends and many of whom are incredibly supportive so the competition is mostly friendly. Since this year is the 100 Centennial of BMW and Car Week & OctoberFest in Monterery, California will be the high-point of the celebration (at least west of the Mississippi) I was convinced to attend this year (my first time bringing a BMW). As such I decided this was the time to embark on this project. However let me be clear: I am doing this project because I want to, because I have always wanted to do this to a car and not because I'm trying to keep up with Mr.Jones. I am at a point in my life where I actually have a car worthy of this effort.
First off, this is the synopsized scope of work:
-Engine Resealing (Gaskets, etc.)
-Transmission Resealing (Gaskets, etc.)
-New Rebuilt Driveshaft & Mounts
-New Shifter & Bushings (Z3 1.9 Shifter, E28 Linkage)
-New Cooling System, complete
-New Front Suspension & Steering Components (all except original Dinan & Bilstein equipment)
-New Oil System (Filter, Head, Cooler, Lines)
-Overhaul Hydraulic System (New components, Lines, Hoses)
-New Electrical System (Alternator, Fuse Box, Harness Re-taping)
-Re-do Headlight Washer & Wiper System
-Re-do Front Lighting (Repair Lens Hardware, New Turn Signals, New Wiring, New Low Beam Lens)
-Re-do Front Brakes (New Rotors, Rebuild E32 750i Calipers, New Backplates, New Pads)
-Re-do Front Struts (New Wheel Bearings, New Sensors, New Spring Pads & Mounts)
-New Rear Brakes (Replacement Rebuilt E34 540i Rear Calipers, New Pads)
-Re-do Air Condition System (New Hoses & Lines, New/Re-furbish Condenser, New Drier)
-New Exhaust System, complete
-Refinish Parts: Cleaning, Plating, Powder-coating, Tumbling (Oil Pan, Timing Covers, Intake & Exhaust Manifolds, Valve Covers, etc.)
In short pretty much everything forward of the Firewall gets addressed one way or another (with new Rear Brakes thrown in which is a continuation/completion of the Rear End Refurb from a few years back).
I started this over the holidays this past December 2015; it was a bit of a late start as I had planned on starting this back in November right after the SoCal Vintage BMW Meet. But life, the house, work and the holidays put the Kibosh on that so I couldn’t carve out any solid productive time until after Christmas. I lifted the car and started demo & tear-down on Tuesday 12/29. The Monday before I drove the car down from the hangar and had the A/C system discharged and drained. The drive back turned into a fun spirited one as I wanted to enjoy the M one last time and bank some of that goodness before tearing the whole thing apart and having it off the road for the next 7 months. After doing that, I promptly closed the hangar and left the whole thing for the entire month of January so I could finish this (the final 1% of which we are still trying to complete):
But that is for another thread.
PART I: PREPARATION & DISMANTLING
Since I had a long list of small mini-projects of sorts to handle in the engine bay, I decided to remove the engine and transmission entirely so as to get access to everything expediently and efficiently. I have never done this before so this was a going to have some challenges full of learning curves.
I raised the car up on a set of rear wheel ramps and the front up on a set of large 10 ton tall truck jack stands. These are from Sunex and start at 18.5” extending up to 31” and have a 21” footprint; these are really heavy duty and have proven to be worth the investment. Without access to a real lift, this setup was the next best thing.
Of course I couldn’t do this without this invaluable tool: a Long Frame High Reach Floor Jack. This one was a Craigslist find Central Hydraulics (aka Harbor Freight):
First up was a collective weekend of photo documenting everything and researching. I have been taking extensive photos and even a video or two since I started (the amount has officially crossed into “Crap-ton” designation). However I know that of the many photos I took, I am going to be missing a critical one (or ten); it’s inevitable.
Next up was the better part of a day draining every system: Cooling, Hydraulic, Steering, Brakes, Transmission, and Oil:
After all of that, the body protection went on to secure it for the long haul during the rest of demolition so it ended up looking like this for the last 5 months:
I have folders of photos of the dismantlement all the various systems and parts that took place over the last 5 months; too many, but here are a few:
Eventually I ended up here, with the engine & transmission ready to come out:
PART II: ENGINE & TRANSMISSION REMOVAL
There was some debate amongst the “crew” (i.e. Ralph and Phil, my steadfast assistants in this next phase) and a few minds here on the best way to get these out of the car. Due to the fact that I had loosened the front struts already and the car was in the air as high as it was, I decided to do the only sensible thing: drop the Whole Kit-n-Kaboodle out the bottom (you can almost envision the whole assembly: engine, trans, subframe, struts - dropping down below like some 500lb bomb out of the bomb bay of a B-17 in that picture above). Of course it wasn’t that simple in reality.
First I had to raise the front end even higher to be able for the Intake to clear the M-Tech front valance once it landed on the rolling cart I set up below. This meant raising the jack stands up another peg or two and chocking the hell out of the rear wheels on the wheel stands.
The Engine Cart: a couple of furniture dollies, some 2x4’s and ¾’ plywood:
Other than a slight miscalculation with the width of the cart and trying to fix it on the fly, lowering it was surprisingly easy with the aid of the trusty big orange HF floor jack and some safety support from an engine hoist above.
From here it was time to break down the engine and transmission for their overhaul.
PART III: ENGINE & TRANSMISSION
The goals with the engine and transmission were nothing too grand: replace gaskets, remove & refinish some parts and/or replace with new parts, inspect the Timing Chain Guides, and clean everything thoroughly.
First was the breakdown of the rest to the parts on the block: Intake & Exhaust Manifolds:
Starter, et al:
After all that was removed (including the Front Struts), it was time to tackle the famed Front Crank Hub Nut, or “Jesus Nut”. In hindsight I should have loosened this first prior to even raising the car, but oh well. I figured with enough mass of the block and transmission along with it being bolted down to the cart, we would have enough dissipated mass to counter-act the overturning momentum. That was optimistic. First we tried Ralph’s homemade Crank Hub Holder Tool seen here:
When we applied the counter-force with the 4x Torque Multiplier and 48” breaker bar, his tool squealed like a pig and promptly sheared at the threads of the iron pipe just above his weld (in retrospect he shouldn’t have made the weld at the threaded end; he knows that now).
Next up was to locate the proper tool: SIR Tool’s BMW 3043 for the M30. A few days later it arrived and we were back at it the next weekend. Well, while the SIR Tool held (once we added and extension which braced it to the floor), we couldn’t get the leverage we needed and not have the block over-turn the cart (no matter how many of our fat buts were sitting on it). We switched up to pneumatic force after that:
Voila, it worked. But victory came at a cost: the SIR Tool suffered an irreparable blow and ended up looking like this:
SIR Tool and the seller (HandsOnTools.com) stepped up and replaced the tool free of charge, so it worked out. And of course, that nut was off so we off to the races.
I removed the Transmission and Bell Housing , removed the nuts holding the Motor Mounts to the Subframe and prepped the engine hoist and stand.
Then get the block on the engine stand for the remainder of work:
I decided to try using a light blast media to clean off the grime prior to going at it with degreaser. I used this setup: Walnut shell in a light duty small spot blaster:
This little setup works just okay and really could benefit from a more powerful compressor behind it (we have yet to get our 5hp Sanborn up and running). But for a light general cleaning it does the trick once you get used to the eccentricities of this blaster. The blasting was done to cut my degreasing and scouring down to a minimum. For that purpose, it worked rather well. In order to pull this off without sending media all over the hangar and my hangar-mates’ cars, I constructed a Dexter-style clean room to contain everything:
After the blasting, I removed the covers: Valve, Oil Pan, Timing:
Surprised to find the Valve Cover this clean underneath. Clean living I suppose:
The rest of it was as I was suspecting:
The head was rebuilt back in 1989 at just 57,620 miles with a new Camshaft, Rockers and Lifters. Don’t really know why (suspect overheating), there were no notes on the service invoice. But the Lifters all have an ’88 date stamp on them so it checks out. The rest of engine and car are now just at over 196,000 miles.
This booth and walnut shell worked well for the degreasing that followed also:
And block painting: Gloss Black from Bill Hirsch Automotive Coatings:
I’m pretty impressed with this stuff: it went on smooth and flowed really well (brushed). It has the reputation of being like iron when it cures. I had prepped the block beforehand after the blasting (degreased, wire brushed, sanded) then treated it with their Metal Prep spray. This attacked the rusted areas and converted it to a zinc surface which then could be painted directly.
The results stand for themselves:
Ready to put it all back together.
In the meantime, time to pull the transmission and clutch apart to see what’s what and cleaning:
Clutch still looks pretty good with a lot of disc still left:
I will replace the Clutch Fork, Spring and Ball Pin while I’m in there. Cleaned the case and Bellhousing up and ready to go back together. I’m probably going to powder coat the Bellhousing (since everything else down underneath is powder coated):
PART IV: FRONT STRUTS
While all that with the block was going on, I was multitasking by working on the Front Struts. After dismantling them from the Subframe, it was time to tear them down. The existing Dinan Stage 3 Suspension will remain so the Springs and Bilstein Sports will go back in with new mounts and hardware.
The goal was to get them apart to achieve the following:
-New Spring Plates & Pads
-New Upper Strut Mounts
-New Wheel Bearings (even though the old ones still seem to be pretty smooth)
-New Brake Back Plates
-Clean and Powder Coat Strut
Tear down:
Time to get the Axle Hub Nut off:
I had to scramble a bit to find someone that had a 46mm socket on a shelf so I could work that coming weekend. I wasn’t looking ahead and didn’t plan to pick this up earlier; luckily my local O’Reilly’s ordered it from their regional warehouse and I had it the next afternoon. Time for a little pneumatic persuasion:
Once I got the struts apart, it was clear they needed some attention. The reinforced driver’s side Sway Bar Mount was cracked at the rather sloppy weld. That was sent off to Aero Welding for a quick fix along with the M5 Subframe that needed the Steering Box Mount reinforced.
The bottom of the spring cup was starting to show ugliness also (both struts showed this):
Spent some time cleaning up the bottom of the spindles :
Struts are back from Powder Coater and the Brake Back Plates have just arrived from Silver Springs so it’s time to start re-assembly.
PART V: BRAKES
This car has a Stage V Big Brake Upgrade (E32 750/E34 540) which I contemplating changing up to E34 M5 Front Brakes, but opted to stay with the existing brake setup. I will also be replacing the existing older style E32 Rear Calipers this go around with newer E34 Calipers. Included is a new E32 Master Cylinder also. New UUC Stainless Steel lines were put in when I did the Rear End Overhaul.
(I realized I didn’t take any photos of this step since I had them apart in about 15 minutes and my hands were full at the time). I just got them back from being Yellow Zinc plated, so time to rebuild them and get them back in; replacing the rears will probably be one of the last things I do.
PART VI: HYDRAULIC SYSTEM
One of the primary goals of this exercise was to be able to replace the 32 year old, leaking Hydraulic System (okay I admit that it was really to clean up after a 32 year old, leaking Hydraulic System, but that’s my OCD side talking). With the engine out and the car raised this is a significantly easier task, but still a messy prospect.
Tear Down:
Including the ABS Pump (which was a complete mess):
I’m still debating whether or not to complete taking the pump apart and cleaning out the insides (as per this:http://www.mye28.com/viewtopic.php?f=3& ... h#p1339558) Since I’m likely to refinish and repaint the pump along with re-plate the case screws, taking apart the last few elements on the pump is only a few more steps. The pump does appear to be weeping, so that may settle my own debate right there.
As to rest of the system I began with disconnecting the hydraulic lines from the ABS Pump to the Master Cylinder & Booster, removing the connecting hardware, and removing Distribution T’s for replacement. Cleaned all the connection fittings as well on the hard lines (they were pretty gunked up and corroded at the ABS Pump):
I have a rebuilt M5 Steering Gear/Box (well it’s supposed to be one at least); it’s ready to go in:
Without the ID plate, all I have to go on are the markings on the outer case:
PART VII: CLEANING ENGINE BAY & UNDERCARRIAGE
This brings us up to last weekend; while you all were enjoying your days off, visiting with family & friends, taking some time to remember the fallen, I was neck-deep in grime and cleaning solvents. Since one of the main goals of this exercise was to get this car to Concours level, it meant getting dirty; very dirty. And wet. This is what the hangar looked like all weekend:
First it was the wheel wells:
Then it was the engine bay:
Then it was time to get really messy and get under the car. This was the hardest car cleaning task I have ever taken on. I was a sight: Tyvek suit, full face respirator, and industrial chemical full sleeved gloves; wish I took a selfie. But it was necessary to do this: first what 32 years of grime looks like:
What progress looked like as you work down through the layers:
Then more or less completion:
After cleaning the engine bay and specifically the firewall I have to make a decision how to deal with the crumbling rubber sound & heat proofing. After this many years it’s kind of giving up the ghost:
I wasn’t planning on removing all the stuff on the firewall to be able to replace it all, so I may just trim off the lower section of the rubber parts and clean it up as best I can. I may look into some other rubber matting of sorts that I can but on the lower section into the transmission tunnel.
Monday saw me cleaning all the wire harnesses; at least I got to sit down in a chair for most of this:
So that leaves me up to this week. After cleaning up after the weekend (2 hours of mopping and the Hazmat Unit arriving), it looks ready for the re-assembly phase:
I got a lot of parts back the both Ultrasonic cleaning as well as the powder coaters. I just picked up the Yellow Zinc plating yesterday:
Up for this weekend is some engine bay paint touch-up and rust remediation (battery compartment), make a decision on the ABS Pump and start reviewing for the Fuse Box replacement.
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Vince. Wow!
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Very wow! Not only is that impressive work, it's a decent foundational how-to for those of us who dream that maybe someday we'll take a big step like this on our own cars. Great work, and thanks very much for the process documentation.
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Duly impressed! Now comes the fun part.
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Wow. Awesome work!
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You've been a busy lad, fantastic work!
These threads are the best. People with the know how and ability to get it done right is always great to see.
These threads are the best. People with the know how and ability to get it done right is always great to see.
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Also, after all this effort, you are going to replace the headgasket and timing chain components, right?
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Looking good Vince! I can't wait to see at the Huntington show on Sunday.
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What do you use to clean up your grills?
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Really? You think I know what I'm doing? Feels like I'm winging half the time (actually at times it feels like my whole life is like that).white chocolate wrote:...People with the know how and ability to get it done right is always great to see.
Seriously though thanks, it helps to have patience; that and I have been pre-planning this thing for the last two years. Also helps to have a brain-trust of know-how at your disposal; this group is a big part of that.
I know I really should, but I hadn't planned on it. I did buy a new timing chain guide just in case(that current one bothers me). My logic is that this head & gasket only has 138,400 miles on it and I have never gotten any indications that it's a problem. It sounds screwy considering the amount and level of work I'm doing, but I didn't want to get that deep into the engine originally. Not to mention the time delays in doing that; that's going to set me back considerably. I have a very fast approaching deadline and only 9 weekends to get this all done.Kyle in NO wrote:Also, after all this effort, you are going to replace the headgasket and timing chain components, right?
You and me both.Karl Grau wrote:Looking good Vince! I can't wait to see at the Huntington show on Sunday.
I may stop down for a bit and see you guys (not even the E39 is clean enough to put on the grass). Maybe, maybe not: tick-tock, you know (see above).
Do you mean the front grilles? Just soap (mild citrus) and water for the most part. Take them out and soak them works the best. A little Bug Squash (Poor Boys) after I've taken a road trip helps with the murdered butterflies. I'll be taking a play out of the Secret Concours Competition Manual this summer and have an untouched clean set of grilles ready for judging; the older set will be the traveling shoes. I'll also install some sort of screen over the front nose and headlights for the drive up and back to Monterey to help keep the carnage to a minimum.86GT635 wrote:What do you use to clean up your grills?
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Just curious - what (besides some serious elbow grease) are you using to breakup and remove the grime from the undercarriage and wheel wells ?
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Its great to see this car continue to get better and better under your ownership, Vince. Having also undertaken several "take it apart to make it better" projects on my car, I share your pain of the process but also your passion for results!
Jim
Jim
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Nice work Vince!!! This thread delivers.
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Very impressive. Definitely subscribed.
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Very nice work Vince. Good attention to detail and lots of good how to do it information. Makes me want to buy another m535:)
Looking forward to the next post!
jm
Looking forward to the next post!
jm
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That actually is a very good question and was only successful after some trial and error with different chemicals (some of which California shouldn't know I have) and processes. In the end it was just brute force and determination once I got halfway through. You have to fully commit and surrender to your inner OCD personality.BudFox wrote:Just curious - what (besides some serious elbow grease) are you using to breakup and remove the grime from the undercarriage and wheel wells ?
I started with the wheel wells; I have cleaned these before so they weren't too bad. I started with the usual: L.A.'s Totally Awesome Cleaner & Degresaser; I can't say enough about this stuff, truly awesome and have no idea what's in it but it will remove just about anything (including brain cells, so respirator time if using it un-diluted). Using a combination of Scotch-Brite (green), stiff nylon brush, and a small brass wire toothbrush and a bucket of Simple Green & water I went at it. I thought I was making progress until I hit a corner with brake cleaner: the grime just started to roll off (along with most of my 8th grade memories). So then I thought: Gee, if brake cleaner does this I wonder what lacquer thinner does? Bingo. LT on a green Scoth-Brite ate right through the grime and even the blue paint over-spray from the re-paint and revealed the yellow-tan of the original 3M Shutz coating. You have to work fast as both LT and brake cleaner evaporate instantly, so with the LT in one hand and wet rag in the other, follow Mr. Miyagi's rules: wipe on-wipe off. Save the brake cleaner for the corners and seams, it's expensive compared to LT; I think I went through about 10 cans of it over the whole weekend.
With the undercarriage I had to follow a different procedure, one that did not involve LT. I first wetted down the first section (break the whole thing into quarters and attack each one completely start to finish, it fuels your determination to see what you're working for). I was going to skip all the intermediate steps and go straight to the LT but two things happened: 1) the undercarriage was never cleaned before so there were 32 years of layers of grime and the LT could only cut through a few at a time; it evaporated too quickly so it just moved the grime around, and 2) I didn't have Organic Vapor filters for the full face respirator I was wearing; the fumes from the LT got sucked into the mask with nowhere to go except into my brain (I now know why guys would smoke pot while wearing these things). It was unpleasant to say the least. So I resorted to good old fashioned elbow-grease and varied between the Totally Awesome, and two other degreasers made the same company (all of which was found on the shelves of my local 99 cent store). Various brushes, tile scrubbers, conical shaped bottle brush (this was invaluable, it is now my go-to cleaning tool), Scotch-Brite (both green and red) and a Hudson-type sprayer to rinse off as you go (although a higher pressure water hose would have been better). I even bought a small steam cleaner in hopes it would help loosen everything up but other than making a whole lot of steam vapor it didn't really do much.
The worst part of the undercarriage with the car in this lifted configuration was having to get on the floor on you back and working over you head. You essentially are lying in a puddle of solvents, grease and water all day long. Full Tyvek suit, full face respirator and full arm sleeve industrial chemical proof gloves are the Di Riguer fashion. Even then you will be a mess. Also prepare to need some serious pain killers the next day; it's a workout.
There are few things at Harbor Freight I recommend (I think they should start paying me to test their crap as I buy enough of it) but their full sleeved chemical gloves are totally worth it.
http://www.harborfreight.com/oil-resist ... 99677.html
Western Safety (they must get high sitting around thinking of these company names) PVC Long Cuff Oil Resistant Gloves, for $6.99 they actually are quite the bargain and proved to be invaluable.
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Damn, seeing this and other project threads makes me depressed that I haven't done anything to my E28s in a couple years! Things are looking much better now, so I expect that to change.
Keep up the good work! As a fan of arctic blue E28s, this has to be one of my favorites.
Keep up the good work! As a fan of arctic blue E28s, this has to be one of my favorites.
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Fantastic work, Vince!
Re. Western Safety, I assume it's because no one bothers with safety gear where all the HF stuff is made ...
I spent the last 2 days cleaning and painting the interior, engine bay, and roll cage of the (disassembled) race car. Definitely feeling you on the hours of respirator time and solvent selection challenges (FYI, xylene is great for removing the adhesives holding the asphalt sound deadener to the interior, and you want to use nitrile gloves with that).
Great progress.
-tammer
Re. Western Safety, I assume it's because no one bothers with safety gear where all the HF stuff is made ...
I spent the last 2 days cleaning and painting the interior, engine bay, and roll cage of the (disassembled) race car. Definitely feeling you on the hours of respirator time and solvent selection challenges (FYI, xylene is great for removing the adhesives holding the asphalt sound deadener to the interior, and you want to use nitrile gloves with that).
Great progress.
-tammer
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The tag is missing on Vince's.
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I'll be interested to see how this turns out. The same seller has both 'regular' and M5/M6 boxes listed for sale but with different part numbers, prices and pictures. Who knows, maybe you'll get lucky.cek wrote:I didn't have time last night to verify the # of turns lock to lock, but now that I've read more, and see the blue tag on it, I strongly suspect it's going to be 3.5 turns.
Which will make me sad (and make me return it). I suspect you'll be doing the same thing.
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Even if mine is not a true M5 box, I will likely keep it. The price difference between the standard and M boxes this seller has wasn't terribly much (+/-$25 at least when I bought mine, they had a sale). Not sure it would be worth sending back considering the cost of shipping. Then I'd still be without a steering box and further behind schedule. The seller/company was really good to work with: professional communication, super responsive with live local humans, and quick repayment of the core deposit. They pay for the core shipping also.Karl Grau wrote:I'll be interested to see how this turns out. The same seller has both 'regular' and M5/M6 boxes listed for sale but with different part numbers, prices and pictures. Who knows, maybe you'll get lucky.cek wrote:I didn't have time last night to verify the # of turns lock to lock, but now that I've read more, and see the blue tag on it, I strongly suspect it's going to be 3.5 turns.
Which will make me sad (and make me return it). I suspect you'll be doing the same thing.
I don't suppose one could tell from the numbers on the outer case or are the cases all the same and it's only the internals that are different?
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The cases are all the same. The magenta tag was what identified the 3 turn boxes.
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Mine has a blue tag.
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Strong work my dirty little monkey. Can't tell you how proud I am. Snif. . . they grow up so fast.