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My Cosmic Blue car badly needs a paint job, I really like the D Gray color on my buddies car but his has a black Interior, where mine has the Navy Interior. This is not a high end perfect car, so any thoughts?
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Post by Shawn D. »

Despite you saying "This is not a high end perfect car..." I wouldn't change the color on any car unless I were to paint the door jambs, inside the window frames, engine compartment, inside the trunk, etc. Otherwise, it'll look very shoddily done and you'll see that glaring difference every time you get in the car.
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I agree with Shawn.

I'd not consider a color change unless I stripped the car completely and fully painted it inside and out; that would be so expensive that selling the car and buying one in a color you like would seem positively cheap in comparison.

Besides that, your blue paint and interior are one of the best combinations out there; why go from that to bland?
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I planned to shoot the jams, but I didn't think about inside the windows.... I want it to look good, it just looks so pitiful right now. I thought I could probally live with the under hood and trunk as the colors aren't that far off. But I don't want it to look hacked....
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[QUOTE="itruns"]I planned to shoot the jams, but I didn't think about inside the windows.... I want it to look good, it just looks so pitiful right now. I thought I could probally live with the under hood and trunk as the colors aren't that far off. But I don't want it to look hacked....[/QUOTE]

That's what it will look like every time you open the hood or trunk. You'll get so tired explaining it, you'll regret it dozens of times over.
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Post by itruns »

Thanks Pat, I guess mine looks so bad at the moment, it is hard to visulize it when its complete. The leather is in good shape and I plan on a partial glass out shoot, with maybe body colored or Satin black bumpers...

I don't know that D Gray just looked shiny and sharp compared to mine.
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Post by Mo »

I agree with what everbody else said.

There was a thread not too long ago about 3-5K paint jobs. I thought this was ludicrous. Though many may have no problem w/ spending that on paint to get it done right--that is more than blue book on some cars.

1.)What is a good price to pay for just a "touch up" paint job of the same original color?

When you have original paint, you can wax the heck out of--it might look good for a while but it is hard to maintain through the winter. Thoughts.
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[QUOTE="itruns"]Thanks Pat, I guess mine looks so bad at the moment, it is hard to visulize it when its complete. The leather is in good shape and I plan on a partial glass out shoot, with maybe body colored or Satin black bumpers...

I don't know that D Gray just looked shiny and sharp compared to mine.[/QUOTE]

I forget what JayBort called it, but there's a way to paint the car without removing the front and rear glass. They put thick "weedeater" string under the gasket which holds it up off the painted surface, they (or you) then mask that off and shoot the color. "Stringing the trim" I think he called it.

That'll save you a bundle, and spraying the same color saves even more.
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[QUOTE="Mo"]I agree with what everbody else said.

There was a thread not too long ago about 3-5K paint jobs. I thought this was ludicrous. Though many may have no problem w/ spending that on paint to get it done right--that is more than blue book on some cars.

1.)What is a good price to pay for just a "touch up" paint job of the same original color?

When you have original paint, you can wax the heck out of--it might look good for a while but it is hard to maintain through the winter. Thoughts.[/QUOTE]

Here's a before:
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and after:
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of the original paint on my '90 325i Cab, detailed by the master, Icehaus Dave.

You can still see the small dents, but the paint had some life left in it.

On my 535is though, the metallic paint was dead in spots, so a complete job will be required. Even though Lacksilber isn't my favorite, that's what I'll be putting on it because it's what it came with.
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Post by Mo »

Wow! Looks 100x better! He did a great job. Looks brand new.

The technique you mentioned sounds reasonable and worthwhile; a very good idea.

I have some things/spots on my car that I know are not going to come back to life b/c in fact I replaced a front quarter panel from a donor car. I am looking to paint her fresh--while I am it--the whole car. But not for some ridiculous $$$.

I figure it will be best to do it all at once--factory color, light job. After all I am not going for a car show finish.

Let me know how your E28 turns out!
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Sounds like it will not be a show car.
Strip the trim and paint it as close to the original color as possible. Use a roller. 70$ later it will look better and you will have gas money to drive the hell out of it.
If you still have it in 2 years paint it again.

Keep your eye out for a cherry.
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cosmos is beautiful when its fresh and clean:
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[QUOTE="Threeshifter"]Sounds like it will not be a show car.
Strip the trim and paint it as close to the original color as possible. Use a roller. 70$ later it will look better and you will have gas money to drive the hell out of it.
If you still have it in 2 years paint it again.

Keep your eye out for a cherry.[/QUOTE]

Is this a joke?
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Post by Mo »

Indeed, I am not able to decipher his post either. No offense three shifter, I just dont get it. It might be the bottle of wine I am almost finished with.

My intention is to get a low budget paint job--the same color I have already, Alpine white. How hard can it be to f-up a white paint job.

I have had several cars painted--painted by underground dudes and pros, and it has always ended up better w/ the exception of one time when I was young and dumb and put a candy blue/midnight blue paint w/ 8 coats of clear.

It looked smoking! However, it lasted 9 months. My homeboy's mom backed into my ride reversing out of her driveway--needless to say, you cannot match-up a custom paint job at all. So it looked terrible. Young and dumb.

Bottom line, this is just Alpine White, how hard to jack it up can this be. Shouldnt be more than a few hundred. Hell I could do it myself but it would be for the same amount the dudes I hire will paint it for, so I wouldnt save $.

However, please inform me if I am missing something, or if the wine has kicked in too much.
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[QUOTE="Mo"]My intention is to get a low budget paint job--the same color I have already, Alpine white. How hard can it be to f-up a white paint job.

Bottom line, this is just Alpine White, how hard to jack it up can this be. Shouldnt be more than a few hundred. Hell I could do it myself but it would be for the same amount the dudes I hire will paint it for, so I wouldnt save $.

However, please inform me if I am missing something, or if the wine has kicked in too much.[/QUOTE]
Well, the problem with the "it's only Alpine White" concept is that it's not really the paint that's expensive or difficult -- it's the proper prep and proper application of the paint. Cheapo paint with proper prep and application will turn out much better than expensive paint (House of Kolor, for example) and poor prep and application.
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That post about using a roller to paint your car was 90% joke and 10% serious.

Joke part:
That is a pretty goofy way to paint a car. Red neck thoughts. I guess that you can think like a redneck drinking either PBR or Chimay.

Serious part:
Depends on your priorities. That is all. For me cosmetics are lower priorities then mechanical reliability and performance. For example I would rather put suspension on a poor looking car and drive it hard then paint. To weigh ones personal priorities against ones budget.
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Post by Mo »

Right on man. I am right there with you!

I thought about just painting the panel but it might look goofy w/ one bright white spot, goofier than it looks now; it looks ok right now sort of like the car you want to take to the stadium or a packed parking lot of some sort--daring people to park next to you.

I'll send pics when I get it done this summer--before and after.
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Well mine is a challange car so budget is a big issue. I will do all the prep work and strip the car as much as possable, but the last time I shot anything (a black hood and wing) it took forever for me to get it to look good and really messed up my garage. I wish there was someone local that could/would shoot it for me.
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[QUOTE="Threeshifter"]Serious part:
Depends on your priorities. That is all. For me cosmetics are lower priorities then mechanical reliability and performance. For example I would rather put suspension on a poor looking car and drive it hard then paint. To weigh ones personal priorities against ones budget.[/QUOTE]

Im of the same school of thought, regarding mechanicals vs cosmetics. My E28 is a 528e which only had good paint on the hood, and sides of the car. Until someone backed into my driver door and failed to leave a note. So now its missing paint AND it has a silver door. But I dont mind really, the car runs like brand new, and it was free to me, so who am I to complain. I'll paint it arktisblau metallic (original color) again, AFTER my head swap. The paint has been the way it is for over ten years, I dont see it getting a lot worse in the next 6 to 8 months.

Heres what mine looks like
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As far as the roller goes, its kind of what my Vdub friends have been trying to get me to do. For some reason they think I should spray my car with "chalkboard" enamel. Some kind of a semi gloss. Heres an MK2 with it.
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I'll do it right, or not at all.
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[QUOTE="Threeshifter"]As far as the roller goes, its kind of what my Vdub friends have been trying to get me to do. For some reason they think I should spray my car with "chalkboard" enamel. Some kind of a semi gloss.[/QUOTE]
You must be a young whippersnapper who ain't never seen a real chalkboard, 'cause all Y'all prob'ly have is dry erase boards! :p Chalkboards have a very flat sheen -- quite far from semi-gloss!
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