My E28 M5 journey

S14 · Post by **S14** » Mar 20, 2011 11:35 PM

Hi Guys, I bought Chris Graff's wonderful M5. In the following posts, I'll share my time as it's caretaker.

No photoshop on this comp, so this is straight off the point-n-shoot.

Black Steel · Post by **Black Steel** » Mar 20, 2011 11:50 PM

Yep! Thats sweeeeeet!

fukoa · Post by **fukoa** » Mar 21, 2011 12:04 AM

good looking ride you have
I like all the pictures
but the second picture is my favorite

Post by **mooseheadm5** » Mar 21, 2011 12:18 AM

Rears are 9s, yes?

Dexter · Post by **Dexter** » Mar 21, 2011 12:34 AM

Nice. Love it- love the second one best too.

Post by **mooseheadm5** » Mar 21, 2011 12:51 AM

Need some headlight wipers?

Das_Prachtstrasse · Post by **Das_Prachtstrasse** » Mar 21, 2011 12:57 AM

mooseheadm5 wrote:Need some headlight wipers?

I do.

Wheels look good, one of the only 18 inch sets that actually don't look overly humongous on an e28.

S14 · Post by **S14** » Mar 21, 2011 1:27 AM

Thanks guys, I like no 2 as well, but the car is a bit crooked and it kind of bugs me in that pic.

Moose - I have a set of washers, but I think I like the front end without the clutter. They are neat when they work though!
wheels are 8 and 9, or 8.5 and 9.5... I forget! Tires are 235/35/18 conti DW's on all 4 corners.

Das - I agree, they are just a tiny bit big, but it looks good I think.

Black Steel - I tried to find some pictures of your car... It sounds like quite a kit, why no pictures???

skip535i · Post by **skip535i** » Mar 21, 2011 8:24 AM

That looks great! Those wheels are CLEAN!

rojacob · Post by **rojacob** » Mar 21, 2011 8:24 AM

mooseheadm5 wrote:Need some headlight wipers?

Mee too!

NICE! M5. Very del-licious looking. Also like the chrome biumpers

WilNJ · Post by **WilNJ** » Mar 21, 2011 8:31 AM

Looks sharp, were the pics taken in NJ?

cactusjacks1 · Post by **cactusjacks1** » Mar 21, 2011 9:28 AM

S14 wrote:Thanks guys, I like no 2 as well, but the car is a bit crooked and it kind of bugs me in that pic.

Moose - I have a set of washers, but I think I like the front end without the clutter. They are neat when they work though!
wheels are 8 and 9, or 8.5 and 9.5... I forget! Tires are 235/35/18 conti DW's on all 4 corners.

Das - I agree, they are just a tiny bit big, but it looks good I think.

They look very good - the wheels are spotless, did you have them refinished? The machined lip is the way to go on this car & the staggar is right on. Are they from a e39 or e38?

mogie · Post by **mogie** » Mar 21, 2011 1:47 PM

the wheels are spotless, did you have them refinished

They look new, i assume he got them with the style 5 closeout

Fox · Post by **Fox** » Mar 21, 2011 7:07 PM

This thread title is spot on!

Karl Grau · Post by **Karl Grau** » Mar 21, 2011 7:54 PM

I have to say your pictures removed any shred of remaining doubt I had about getting rid of the M-Tech Tupperware.

I can only hope mine looks as nice when I'm done.

S14 · Post by **S14** » Mar 21, 2011 9:24 PM

Charles - Nice bit of kit you've collected! are your lower valance covers white too?

Cactus - I wish I could take credit for keeping them that clean! I bought them new from ECS, and they had about 6 miles on them when I took these photo's. I do have a order in with autogeek for some wheel wax, and some leather care to try to head off the hot texas summers.

Thanks again for the warm comments, I really do enjoy this car!

M5ZEALOT · Post by **M5ZEALOT** » Mar 21, 2011 9:41 PM

Welcome to the "rebellion" force....of 18" wheel users! Very nice!

87royal · Post by **87royal** » Mar 21, 2011 10:18 PM

Looking good

48230M5 · Post by **48230M5** » Mar 21, 2011 10:24 PM

It looks awesome! I never realized it before, but euro bumper cars can pull off 18s so much better.

Blackey1693 · Post by **Blackey1693** » Mar 22, 2011 8:50 AM

Love the cars, where is a good place to get those plastics? (bumpers, trunk wing, Ext)

GaAlpinaOwner · Post by **GaAlpinaOwner** » Mar 22, 2011 11:39 AM

looks very very nice...luv the deep dish Style 5s

Black Steel · Post by **Black Steel** » Mar 22, 2011 12:48 PM

S14 wrote:Thanks guys, I like no 2 as well, but the car is a bit crooked and it kind of bugs me in that pic.

Moose - I have a set of washers, but I think I like the front end without the clutter. They are neat when they work though!
wheels are 8 and 9, or 8.5 and 9.5... I forget! Tires are 235/35/18 conti DW's on all 4 corners.

Das - I agree, they are just a tiny bit big, but it looks good I think.

Black Steel - I tried to find some pictures of your car... It sounds like quite a kit, why no pictures???

I have put one or two pictures up

When I respray the car all will be revealed. I'm running 265/35/18's on my 9" rears & 225/40/18's on the 8" fronts. Just a taste

Forgot to say...The stance on your car is perfect. Not too low which makes it look almost factory hence cool

S14 · Post by **S14** » Mar 22, 2011 8:29 PM

Nice Engine porn! here is my old S38B38 while I was in Germany:

I like the design of the B36 and B38 airbox better than the M88 and B35. I still have my old B38 airbox and trumpets, would it fit on the B35????

I do like the sound of the B35 over the B38 though... maybe it's just the greater amount of sound deadening in the E34 that took away from the awesome sound of these engines!

cgraff · Post by **cgraff** » Mar 22, 2011 8:42 PM

Lovely looking car and wheels!

Great pictures.

How are you liking the Conti DW? Looking to get a set myself.

-Chris

Black Steel · Post by **Black Steel** » Mar 22, 2011 11:51 PM

S14 wrote:Nice Engine porn! here is my old S38B38 while I was in Germany:

I like the design of the B36 and B38 airbox better than the M88 and B35. I still have my old B38 airbox and trumpets, would it fit on the B35????

I do like the sound of the B35 over the B38 though... maybe it's just the greater amount of sound deadening in the E34 that took away from the awesome sound of these engines!

Very nice! Looks like the Z4 Carbon airbox as aposed to the S38 ones I have seen?
The E34 has about 200kgs more sound deafening than an E28

I have had people pull over & wave me past...Think the sound scared them!

I have a Racing Dynamics Carbon intake. Sounds vicious!

My airbox works as BMW intended as well. The flap in it opens & closes as the revs rise & fall

B38 airbox on an M88 would be seriously cool especially if you used the B38 ECU to operate the flap in it's three stages! That would be seriously cool. Never seen that before!

CJP2151 · Post by **CJP2151** » Mar 28, 2011 3:28 PM

That looks awesome, I am considering style 5s for our e28 M5.. Are there any fitment issues that you came across?

Are you on stock suspension or is the car lowered?

S14 · Post by **S14** » May 14, 2011 4:30 AM

CJP2151 wrote:That looks awesome, I am considering style 5s for our e28 M5.. Are there any fitment issues that you came across?

Are you on stock suspension or is the car lowered?

Sorry CJ, didn't see this until just now

My car is lowered a bit with BMW Mtech springs. I have zero fitment problems, however the tires are a bit undersized for the wheel wells. I'm running 235/35/18 conti DW's on all 4 corners, but I think a 245/35/18 would fit a bit better.

I think a 225/40/18 would have been too skinny, and 235/40/18 is not a very popular tire size. I'm not a fan of understeer, so I chose to run a square tire setup for a very nice and balanced feel.

Black Steel · Post by **Black Steel** » May 14, 2011 6:49 AM

S14 wrote:
CJP2151 wrote:That looks awesome, I am considering style 5s for our e28 M5.. Are there any fitment issues that you came across?

Are you on stock suspension or is the car lowered?
Sorry CJ, didn't see this until just now

My car is lowered a bit with BMW Mtech springs. I have zero fitment problems, however the tires are a bit undersized for the wheel wells. I'm running 235/35/18 conti DW's on all 4 corners, but I think a 245/35/18 would fit a bit better.

I think a 225/40/18 would have been too skinny, and 235/40/18 is not a very popular tire size. I'm not a fan of understeer, so I chose to run a square tire setup for a very nice and balanced feel.

It will understeer if your on standard suspension without camber plates. That is how BMW designed the setup.

235's on the front & above cause the car to suffer from tram lining on poor roads plus on full suspension drop with full lock the inside of the tire will be touching the front arb!

If you learn to steer with your right foot as well as the steering wheel then understeer will not be a problem

S14 · Post by **S14** » May 14, 2011 3:30 PM

Black Steel wrote: 235's on the front & above cause the car to suffer from tram lining on poor roads plus on full suspension drop with full lock the inside of the tire will be touching the front arb!

If you learn to steer with your right foot as well as the steering wheel then understeer will not be a problem

no tramlining, no rubbing anywhere and it's quite neutral with nice predictable rotation when warranted.

Black Steel · Post by **Black Steel** » May 15, 2011 6:47 PM

S14 wrote:
Black Steel wrote: 235's on the front & above cause the car to suffer from tram lining on poor roads plus on full suspension drop with full lock the inside of the tire will be touching the front arb!

If you learn to steer with your right foot as well as the steering wheel then understeer will not be a problem
no tramlining, no rubbing anywhere and it's quite neutral with nice predictable rotation when warranted.

Glad to hear it. UK roads are well known for being rubbish!

The country roads that I like to drive on are all off camber, especially in corners. It's no fun being dragged towards a tree!

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