Tammer in Philly wrote:... but seriously, what is the list of non-college-degree 6-figure jobs? A median income in the $80s is high for the vast majority of the country, "superzips" with double that notwithstanding.
-tammer
I'm guessing but what you're likely seeing is owners of blue collar enterprises, many of those came up through the trades.
Okay, I'd lump that in with my initial example. If you went from apprentice --> tradesman --> owner of your business employing a dozen tradesmen, you are a tradesman. And many of them do very, very well, and demand is tied to population growth more or less.
-tammer
Small business owners are part of it for this area, we do have a few. Also, I wonder what they consider "college educated" to be. Most define that as a bachelor's degree or better, and ignore the associate's level degrees. There are a lot of dental hygienists, nurses, CNAs, and other "low level medical staff" in this area with comfortable incomes that might not fit their "college educated" criteria. Then the SBOs and other tradespeople push the median income up from there.
Just a guess. There's also the possibility that a rather affluent sub-section of the zip is driving up the median income for the whole area. There's a cluster of houses up on the ridge that are obviously owned by people with very healthy earnings.
Perhaps it's all of that together. It'd be interesting to find out, but I don't know how I'd do that exactly.
Tammer in Philly wrote:... but seriously, what is the list of non-college-degree 6-figure jobs? A median income in the $80s is high for the vast majority of the country, "superzips" with double that notwithstanding.
-tammer
I'm guessing but what you're likely seeing is owners of blue collar enterprises, many of those came up through the trades.
Okay, I'd lump that in with my initial example. If you went from apprentice --> tradesman --> owner of your business employing a dozen tradesmen, you are a tradesman. And many of them do very, very well, and demand is tied to population growth more or less.
-tammer
Not to argue, but I'd think someone who's run the gamut like that would have a much wider skill set than a tradesman; "entrepreneur" would be a better label, if a label is needed.
Tammer in Philly wrote:... but seriously, what is the list of non-college-degree 6-figure jobs? A median income in the $80s is high for the vast majority of the country, "superzips" with double that notwithstanding.
-tammer
I'm guessing but what you're likely seeing is owners of blue collar enterprises, many of those came up through the trades.
Okay, I'd lump that in with my initial example. If you went from apprentice --> tradesman --> owner of your business employing a dozen tradesmen, you are a tradesman. And many of them do very, very well, and demand is tied to population growth more or less.
-tammer
Not to argue, but I'd think someone who's run the gamut like that would have a much wider skill set than a tradesman; "entrepreneur" would be a better label, if a label is needed.
Sure, it's a matter of interpretation. I don't apply the "entrepreneuer" label to every business owner; I tend to reserve it for those who can transition ideas into viable business interests. But I wouldn't say that being a plumber means one can only do plumbing. Everyone is better off if they have some practical bigger-picture skills to complement their specialty.
I really like those. I get really confused when people try to give me directions by telling me to go to an area that doesn't exist specifically on any map. "So, you head over to Federal Hill, take your second right, then just keep going until you reach Chippens Hill, and it'll be on your left."
Um, wait ... what? It seems that only the longtime locals know the boundaries of these mysterious areas a lot of times.
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Jeremy wrote:I really like those. I get really confused when people try to give me directions by telling me to go to an area that doesn't exist implicitly on any map. "So, you head over to Federal Hill, take your second right, then just keep going until you reach Chippens Hill, and it'll be on your left."
:? Um, wait ... what? It seems that only the longtime locals know the boundaries of these mysterious areas a lot of times.
Learning neighborhood boundaries, especially hearing people's opinions of what street is "the line" between two neighborhoods when it is in dispute, is something I enjoy when traveling in new cities.
You may not be familiar with Google Maps’s Panoramio service. It aggregates uploaded photos with geotagged information and presents them in a map format. Now, they have released a heat map showing the most popular places in the world for photography.
Thought this was quite apropos considering the snowgasm going on in the south... A map showing the amount of snow it takes to close schools in a given area.
(click on the map for a bigger version)
Lots of discussion about it in the Reddit thread about the map; based on one of the comments, I think this thread should be renamed to MapPorn or something similar. Just a suggestion.
djazz wrote:Closer to home, http://www.318ti.org (bottom of main page) has a cool map showing members and a ping ((O)) symbol for the ones that are online.
Here's another good one, that's actually quite depressing considering the fact that I was in sunny SoCal last weekend and came back here -- 18 counties away from the Pacific Ocean -- to snow.
davintosh wrote:Here's another good one, that's actually quite depressing considering the fact that I was in sunny SoCal last weekend and came back here -- 18 counties away from the Pacific Ocean -- to snow.
davintosh wrote:Here's another good one, that's actually quite depressing considering the fact that I was in sunny SoCal last weekend and came back here -- 18 counties away from the Pacific Ocean -- to snow. :facepalm:
Counties in the west are big, so I'll bet that map lines up pretty well with a sort of "center of mass" view of the US. Would like to see that, in fact. Population distribution and a "balance point".
davintosh wrote:Here's another good one, that's actually quite depressing considering the fact that I was in sunny SoCal last weekend and came back here -- 18 counties away from the Pacific Ocean -- to snow. :facepalm:
Revisiting this on a bigger monitor, I feel a little ripped off. My 21-county route to the Atlantic actually puts me in Baltimore, which is on a river mouth that leads to a bay that leads to the Atlantic. <sigh>
My old world map was printed in 1986 so besides being a little rough around the edges (literally), a lot of borders and names had changed. I bought this HUGE one from Amazon. I can't believe how expensive maps are.
I live in a majority-Cubs-fan ZIP bordering the northern edge of the White Sox zone. As I grew up in Boone County, Indiana (as a Cubs fan, naturally), I am feeling good about my neighborhood selection. :-)
Also of note, you can see all the retirees in Florida--the 2nd and 3rd most popular teams in most areas of Florida are the Yankees and Red Sox.
I love baseball rivalries. Especially since I grew up and still live right near the infamous "Munson-Nixon line". There really isn't a clear line, but there are definite border areas where the rivalry is fierce. Families are divided. Mom is a Yankee fan, dad's a Red Sox fan. Son1 roots for the Sox, son2 for the pinstripes.
It's mostly friendly aside from a few jerks, but it's good fun at the bars come end of season and playoff time. I used to go to a bar where one half was all Red Sox memorabilia and the other half was Yankees. Yankees had one bartender, the Red Sox had another. It was pretty hilarious on game nights.
Here's an interesting map showing the relative amount of land owned by the federal government in each state.
The question that comes to mind is, "Why is there that much government land in the western states?" That topic is probably best left to the Tailpipe I guess.
davintosh wrote:...The question that comes to mind is, "Why is there that much government land in the western states?" That topic is probably best left to the Tailpipe I guess.
That is a very interesting topic. I might follow this to the TP if it makes it. I'm curious to know why as well.
davintosh wrote:...The question that comes to mind is, "Why is there that much government land in the western states?" That topic is probably best left to the Tailpipe I guess.
That is a very interesting topic. I might follow this to the TP if it makes it. I'm curious to know why as well.
I don't know about the other states but in California the National Parks are about the size of Connecticut and then add in military installations and you have a second Connecticut. There are also 100 Federal Indian reservations but I don't know how much land they take up.
Um, wait ... what? It seems that only the longtime locals know the boundaries of these mysterious areas a lot of times.
