Mustang Injectors as replacements, what others fit - FAQ

[dcbrewmeister]

Problem - My injectors are leaking and/or I have bad one.

Solution - Replace your injections. These are all Bosch 19# injectors. Good Saturday project and easy enough for a home project. But where can I get the injectors without paying a fortune for new ones (about $95/ea new from a parts store.) Easy, get them from one of these Fords;

Engine Fitments:
1992-95 4.6 V-8 Crown Vic
1996-04 4.6 V-8 Mustang
1995-96 4.6 T'bird
1996-98 4.6 Crown Vic
F-Series 4.6 1997-01
1997-01 5.4 Truck, Expedi.
1986-95 5.0/5.8L V-8
F-Series 5.0/5.8L EFI-MPI
Lightning Truck 5.8
1993-96 4.0 Explorer
1990-95 4.0 Aerostar
1990-92 4.0 Expl/Ranger
1993-94 4.0 Ranger
1996 4.0 Aero/Ranger
Mazda Navajo 4.0
1997-98 3.8 Mustang
1998 Windstar 3.8 (F78E)

The "standard" injector that you are looking for looks like this;



The Ford (Bosch) Design III "skinny yellow" factory replacements work great also. These are a direct replacement for the "fat" yellow ones and will also work in your BMW. They look like these;



You do not have to look for a Mustang 5.0 as a replacement, all the cars listed above use the same injectors.

What will it do for my car? - Nothing. Meant as a direct replacement for the 20 year old injectors you have in your car. NO hp gain, NO MPG gain, NO top-end gain, NO off-the-line gain, better spray pattern is about it. ANYONE selling these to you as a GAIN in performance is full-of-it and is lying to you. Buy them as a direct cheap replacement for the ones in your car.

Disclaimer - This is not meant to be a list of every car that uses these injectors, there are others. This is meant to give a good list of vehicles to get them from, so you are not looking for 19xx year Mustang.

[Jeremy]

Stickied for feedback.

[rexmo]

lucas injectors from 5 liter camaros of similar vintage, obtained on ebay from some kid who tried them in his Fiero and didn't like them.

[eurowannabe]

Try to find the Bosch type III injectors, they are the 4 nozzle style, and will atomize the fuel better.

I bought a set (on "the bay") out of a Mustang and paid $85 for 8 injectors shipped to my door.

[Jeremy]

As far as useful information goes, this isn't going so well. "Similar vintage" doesn't help people who need specific year vehicles to look for in the yard.

What vehicles were the Bosch type III injectors available in? Part numbers would be the most helpful, but try to at least include enough information that people wouldn't wind up more confused after reading the FAQ.

Please try to stay on topic, I split off one thread already.

Jeremy

[eurowannabe]

As far as useful information goes, this isn't going so well. "Similar vintage" doesn't help people who need specific year vehicles to look for in the yard.

What vehicles were the Bosch type III injectors available in? Part numbers would be the most helpful, but try to at least include enough information that people wouldn't wind up more confused after reading the FAQ.

Please try to stay on topic, I split off one thread already.

Jeremy

Sorry if I created any confusion, but the injectors I bought had no year stated in the ebay add. I already knew what they looked like so I focused on that while I looked.

Here is a link to help cut down on the confusion and aid others in finding the right injectors for their BMW:

http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/

A complete listing can be found there.

[DMNaskale]

When buying Ford take-off injectors, be carefull of the connector style, some Fords use the newer oval EV-6 style connectors instead of the old rectangular style connectors that all E28s come with. You either have to buy adapters or splice new connector pigtails into your harness, adding a considerable amount of cost and hassle to an injector swap. It is very difficult to source the EV-6 connectors unassembled even if you are making a custom harness. I am sorry to not have specifics on what part numbers to avoid, just be sure to check injector connector type when buying them.

Edit: It is now possible to source the EV-6 connectors without jumping through hoops, RS Autosport sells them for $6 each. Still a hassle to swap them out unless you are building a new harness for a Megasquirt conversion or something like that, but if you get a good enough deal on injectors it may be worth it.

[Geerhed]

I noticed that with my Ford injectors (out of a "Ford V8" from eBay) they take an extra 2 seconds' cranking time for the engine to fire when starting. My stock injectors were nearly immediate when turning the key.

Other than that, they seem to be a bit smoother under normal operation, but that could just be that they're newer.

No operational gain past what one could expect from new injectors.

[e28bmw535i]

What about more poundage injectors like 22lb or 34lb?
Will that increase power or anything...if you have a chip or anything? And better fuel atonimization has to do something...better fuel delivery always helps, don't it?

[slash02]

Problem - My injectors are leaking and/or I have bad one.

What will it do for my car? - Nothing. Meant as a direct replacement for the 20 year old injectors you have in your car. NO hp gain, NO MPG gain, NO top-end gain, NO off-the-line gain, better spray pattern is about it. ANYONE selling these to you as a GAIN in performance is full-of-it and is lying to you. Buy them as a direct cheap replacement for the ones in your car.

*** Attention 533i owners, this doesn't work for you, we use low impedance injectors I haven't quite found a crossover yet.

[shifty]

*** Attention 533i owners, this doesn't work for you, we use low impedance injectors I haven't quite found a crossover yet.

But, the 533i injectors were the same as in the Euro M5, which had 286 HP at 3 bar of fuel pressure. That's more than adequate for a NA build on a 533i.

[turbodan]

*** Attention 533i owners, this doesn't work for you, we use low impedance injectors I haven't quite found a crossover yet.

But, the 533i injectors were the same as in the Euro M5, which had 286 HP at 3 bar of fuel pressure. That's more than adequate for a NA build on a 533i.

These are also the same injectors used in the US e30 M3, e28 M5 and
M6's.

[go4carter]

Try to find the Bosch type III injectors, they are the 4 nozzle style, and will atomize the fuel better.

Type III's recently went into my car... they work fine but they sit a little taller and it was a PITA to get the rail on.[/i]

[slash02]

*** Attention 533i owners, this doesn't work for you, we use low impedance injectors I haven't quite found a crossover yet.

But, the 533i injectors were the same as in the Euro M5, which had 286 HP at 3 bar of fuel pressure. That's more than adequate for a NA build on a 533i.

These are also the same injectors used in the US e30 M3, e28 M5 and
M6's.

Sure, and i'm not talking flow rate. I'm talking impedance! They are not interchangeable with the mustang injectors or whatever, like the 535i/635i are...There are some turbo mopar cars apparently that do use the correct injectors.

[shifty]

Sure, and i'm not talking flow rate. I'm talking impedance! They are not interchangeable with the mustang injectors or whatever, like the 535i/635i are...There are some turbo mopar cars apparently that do use the correct injectors.

Point taken, but my point was that you don't really NEED to replace the injectors on a 533i, especially not to upgrade to a higher flow rate.

If you were just mentioning this so no one tries to use high impedance injectors as a stock replacement to their 533i injectors, then my apologies.

[Crosscheck]

Just for curiosity, and ease of acquiring said injectors,
what is the 10 digit Bosch part number (or numbers)
of these injectors (this number will be molded into
the injector just below the upper injector o-ring seat)??

[GaryN]

I have a 85 BMW 524td. Will these injectors fit my diesel?
Thanks, Gary

[Kameix1]

ford probes with the 2.2 engine work also, they are blue so 19 pound i think

[Crosscheck]

Gary,
These injectors will not fit your 524td.
The diesel uses a completely different style of injector
and nozzle.

[Derin]

Any tips for when it comes to actually fitting these?

I'm awaiting the arrival of some and I've read that it's best to fit them into the fuel rail first and then into the manifold? But I'm still anticipating a tight fit to get the O-rings seated down into the manifold? Any other tips/tricks gratefully received.

Thanks

[AJ_528e]

Are there any ford injectors that will work as a replacement for the 2.7L?

[LA]

Because I was willing to experiment and because they are a bit cheaper, I tried a generic brand offered by Advanced Auto because they have four injection orifices per injector. Their electronic inventory listed them as interchangeable with the Bosch OEM. Seems that even though there is still only one pintel, but four atomizing [?] orifices, there should be better distribution in the CC.

With these injectors, the plugs show the mixture to be richer (I thought the O2 sensor would prevent this ??) but the tail pipe still looks OK. Thse were installed in conjunction w/ larger valves and higher flow intake and exhaust. The resulting combo felt stronger.

I offer this information at risk of attack by physists and engineers (both real and wannabe) as well as abuse at the hands of the purists. I sure hope those guys who think they know everything will figure out what a PITA they are to those of us who really do! 8)

[slash02]

If you were just mentioning this so no one tries to use high impedance injectors as a stock replacement to their 533i injectors, then my apologies.

Yes, I mentioned it mainly because what happened to me, I lost an injector, went to get a replacement and everyone kept insisting the 535i injectors will work. they will not because the impedance is wrong.

[bmwm3n528]

Still on the fence about going this route, would it not just make more sense to find a random set(good or bad) and rebuild them?
(had dad's M5 injectors rebuilt for $120)

[rlomba8204]

Still on the fence about going this route, would it not just make more sense to find a random set(good or bad) and rebuild them?
(had dad's M5 injectors rebuilt for $120)

I think it would. For about $40, you can find a used set from someone here. Then, send them off to Cruzin and have them rebuilt. If you are going to go to the trouble to remove the rail and what-not, you should at least be sure you are going to get optimal results. That's what I am in the process of doing right now -- waiting to here back on how the set I sent in tests out, so we shall see.

[thirdworldman]

What will it do for my car? - Nothing. Meant as a direct replacement for the 20 year old injectors you have in your car. NO hp gain, NO MPG gain, NO top-end gain, NO off-the-line gain, better spray pattern is about it. ANYONE selling these to you as a GAIN in performance is full-of-it and is lying to you. Buy them as a direct cheap replacement for the ones in your car.

Disclaimer - This is not meant to be a list of every car that uses these injectors, there are others. This is meant to give a good list of vehicles to get them from, so you are not looking for 19xx year Mustang.

So, if my 5er is running well, there is no reason to swap these injectors out, correct?
ty, Doug in Ct.

[brendano]

I just installed some 19# injectors purchased from ebay in my 1987 535i. They were $49.99 US and fit without any modifications. I did have one bad o-ring and had to replace it but otherwise they work just fine. No delay in starting and runs smoother than my original 260,000 km bosch injectors that looked really disgusting after I finally dislodged them from the intake manifold. I haven't checked the gas mileage yet. Any questions, just drop me a PM.

[2ndeagle]

Will these injectors work on an '88 528e, for future reference.

[wpenno]

DO NOT use these injectors, they are 14.5 ohms, the originals are 2.5 ohms and the fords will not work. The numbers are 280-150-710 E67E-9F593-B1B or E67E-B1B.

Application Guide

86-92 2.9 Ranger/Bronco II
86-97 3.0 Aerostar/Ranger
86-95 3.0 Taurus/Sable
88-93 3.8 Taurus/Sable
86-93 3.8 T-Bird
90-92 3.0 Probe
92-94 3.0 Temp
87-96 4.9 F-150/250/350
94-95 3.8 Mustang
Full Application Guide

Ford Passenger Cars

4 Cylinder

1990 140 2.3L Engine Tempo with Calibration Prefix 9
1987-1990 140 2.3L Engine Mustang
1988-1989 140 2.3L Engine Tempo

6 Cylinder

1996-1999 183 3.0L Engine Tarus with SOHC / Not Flex Fuel
1998 232 3.8L Engine Mustang
1990-1992 183 3.0L Engine Probe
1989-1990 232 3.8L Engine Thunderbird / Not SuperCharged
1998-1990 183 3.0L Engine Taurus / Not SHO
1988-19902 232 3.8L Engine Taurus
1988 232 3.8L Engine Thunderbird
1987-1988 183 3.0L Engine Taurus
1986 183 3.0L Engine Taurus

8 Cylinder

1986-1991 302 5.0L Engine Crown Victoria
1986-1988 302 5.0L Engine Thunderbird

Ford Truck

4 Cylinder

2000-2001 153 2.5L Engine Ranger
1998-1999 153 2.5L Engine Ranger
1989-1991 140 2.3L Engine Ranger
1988 140 2.3L Engine Ranger
1987 140 2.3L Engine Ranger, Aerostar
1986 140 2.3L Engine Aerostar, Bronco II
1985-1986 140 2.3L Engine Ranger

6 Cylinder

2000 183 3.0L Engine Windstar
1997-1999 183 3.0L Windstar
1997 183 3.0L Engine Ranger
1994-1997 183 3.0L Engine Aerostar
1995 244 4.0L Engine Ranger with Calibration 5-58S-R05
1991-1992 177 2.9L Engine Ranger
1991 183 3.0L Engine Aerostar with Calibration 9-55J-R11
1991 183 3.0L Engine Ranger
1987-1991 300 4.9 Engine Bronco, E150, E350, F150, F250, F350
1990 177 2.9L Engine Ranger with Calibration Body 65F, 65H 65T, 66F, 66H, 66T
1989-1990 177 2.9L Engine Bronco II
1986-1990 183 3.0L Engine Aerostar
1989 177 2.9L Engine Ranger
1987-1989 300 4.9L Engine E250
1987-1988 177 2.9L Engine Bronco II, Ranger
1986 177 2.9L Engine Bronco II, Ranger

Lincoln Passanger Cars

6 Cylinder

1988-1990 3.8L Engine Continental

8 Cylinder

1986-1990 302 5.0L Engine Town Car
1987 302 5.0L Engine Mark Series
1986 302 5.0L Engine Mark Series / Not Calibration 6-22L-R0, 6-22L-R10

Mercury Passanger Cars

4 Cylinder

1991 116 1.9L Engine Tracer
1990 140 2.3L Engine Topaz with Calibration Prefix 9
1988-1989 140 2.3L Engine Topaz

6 Cylinder

1996-1999 183 3.0L Engine Sable with SOHC
1996 183 3.0L Engine Sable with Clibration Prfix 6-10A, 6-10B, 6-10S 6-10T
1989-1990 232 3.8L Engine Cougar / Not Super Charged
1988-1990 232 3.8L Engine Sable
1987-1990 183 3.0L Engine Sable
1988 232 3.8L Engine Cougar
1986 183 3.0L Engine Sable

8 Cylinder

1989-1991 302 5.0L Engine Grand Marguis
1986-1988 302 5.0L Engine Cougar

Note: The calibration tag is often found on the drivers door or door jam.

Specifications

Type: Top Feed Pintle Port
Manufacture: Bosch / Ford
Resistance: 14.5 Ohms / High Impedance
Flow Rate: 144cc / 14lbs/hr
Part Number: 280-150-710 E67E-9F593-B1B or E67E-B1B

I wasted 8 hours installing them only to find out that they will not work. And LUCKILY i had not disposed of my old ones. I reinstalled the originals with new seal kits and they worked fine.

[thirdworldman]

Wow! you only took 8 hours to install 64 sets of injectors? you work fast!