My V8 powered M535i

Specific conversations and info for the BMW E28 M5 and M535i.
Hans308GT4
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Post by Hans308GT4 »

Hi Meindert,

How are things progressing?

Whereabout are you in NL? I've got V8 plans as well and would love to come over and chat a bit...

I'm in Utrecht.

Cheers

Hans
b-tuning
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Post by b-tuning »

Hello guys,

First of all, sorry i've been offline for soooooo long! I've forgotten this topic and my i'm not on my old computer anymore..
But Anyway i want to react to some of the replies made on my topic.

lomba8204: The only reason why i bought the 740 on ebay.co.uk, is because it's way cheaper (i mean 1000 euro's cheaper! thats like 1600 dollars!) than buying a wreck in holland. And the main thing it's complete... soo not just a engine on a pallet.. but everything you need!
I know it's not the nicest way if you're a real vintage bmw fan, but those english bmw's are hard to drive in the rest of the world (cause of the steering wheel is on the wrong side) and the land on the crapeyard Anyway cause the're wurth the shit in the UK.
Anyway i think it's you're own right to think about me what you want. But i'm willing to fix up an real old bmw instead of keeping one that is not as old and where are made much more off too, and the parts of the 740 will go for sale soo they help others!
And if you find a better M535i with less rust in Holland for the money i've spent than just give me a notice!

To clear the weight issue some guys mentioned. The M60B40 is 6kg leighter (NOT heavier!!!) than the 6 cilinder that was in it.. it weighs just 208kg dry!
The automatic is 10kg heavier than the one from a e28.. but this one will stay in one piece on the strip.. the reason why not to buy a manual one is that i like automatics and its really hard to find a manual trannie that fits on to a V8.. there not that much laying on the scrapeyard! or the cost really a lot!
cause of the way i put the engine in, the over all weight is going to get as far back as possible.
And an M5 E28 has the same horsepower.. soo the overall strength of the car should be strong enough!

Well enough about the reactions i don't want to come over as a cranky old man:D
Lets get back on to my project!

I've been verry busy at work soo i couldn't do as much as i wanted but, I'm almost done with my manifolds.. but because it's holiday rightnow i can't get parts for it...
here some pictures of it(it's a reallly thight squeze soo thats why there not that good on some spots performance whise)
The manifold is made of 50mm 1,5mm thick RVSstainless tubbing

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this is on the side that has a lot of room
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this is the side where the steering collom is on.. i'm a lot further than this picture but i still need to upload the new pictures..

I've been mounting the brake caliper of a M5 (E34?!?!) which has the brake caliper at the headlights and i'm working on some problems about that area. And i'm working on how to connect the engine electrics..

I will post some more pictures when i can.

Hans308GT4: i live in the Eindhoven area. If you want to come over for a cup of coffee feel free to give me a message!

bye bye
mooseheadm5
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Post by mooseheadm5 »

b-tuning wrote: I've been mounting the brake caliper of a M5 (E34?!?!) which has the brake caliper at the headlights and i'm working on some problems about that area. And i'm working on how to connect the engine electrics..
I bet that you mean the brake booster and master cylinder that the E34 V8 cars used. That is how I have seen others do this conversion as well.
nealglobalauto
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Post by nealglobalauto »

nice work! Couple questions. Did the oil pan have to be modded at all? How about the steering box clearance? Thanks.
Chrishamman
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v-8 conversion

Post by Chrishamman »

Thanks for keeping me up to date on your V8 conversion. Send more pics as it progresses.
C Hamman
Bawbag123
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Post by Bawbag123 »

nice project, can't wait to see it progressed more, as for people saying it's a shame about the 740il, it is in one respect but they are ten a penny and V8 powered E28's are not, also you are correct in saying that by tearing down a complete car you get every bit from the car that you will need in order to get it running. So good on ya, i'll be doing a similar thing with my project. A V8 E28 will sound lovely too.
b-tuning
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Post by b-tuning »

Well it's been again a long time since i wrote anything on this forum. But i've still got the Beemer and i haven't had much time to work on it the last year, i've been in australia for 3 months soo that doesn't help either and just verry busy at work due to the fact that i planned to go to australia last year.
But i made some slow progress in the mean time tho.
As we speak the new bracket(for the lever that sits on the firewall) for the braking system is being machined and i think i've got it in the beginning of next week. Than that will be the last test fit for the braking system soo than the engine can come out again and i'm able to finish welding my headers.
Since it's a SUPER tight fit with the headers and the rest of the stuff in the engine bay i'm gonna need to head the heads up and make a few dents in them. i've got 3mm clearance on the front off the steeringbox and 2 mm on the other side of the steeringbox If somebody wants to copy my idea than just use a 40mm tube instead of 50mm.. saves a lot of room
!!! which i really could use... but never the less we keep the 50's :banana:
I've got al the stuff for the exhaust now, mufflers and couplers the hole lot. all stainless! My muffler setup will be headers 50mm(per bank it goes 4 to 2 than to 1x60mm) than i've got a muffler for 2x60mm which goes into a single 70mm and than on the back i've got another mufflers which makes the single 70mm into 2 60mm again for the exhaust tips.
soo as soon as i finish the headers and stuff i'm gonna make the exhaust and plump it all up soo i can start it. I've bought a brand new M5 Radiator for the cooling and a Spall electric fan setup will help me to keep the engine cool, since i don't use the stock fan anymore.
Well i gonna work on the car again a soon as the temperatures go up a little bit and i can heat up the garage again.
nealglobalauto: i didn't need to modify the oilpan. The engine how ever lays pretty close to the firewall. I can't fit the original cooling liquid reservoir of the V8 cause there's just no space for it.
The steeringbox clearance is just how good you can weld... cause it's a super tight fit with the 50mm pipes.. if you use 40mm you will have 5mm more space for sure.

well i will try to update it again ASAP.
greetz,
coopa.s
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Post by coopa.s »

Can't wait to see it finished..

Where abouts were you down here?
b-tuning
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Post by b-tuning »

Well in the mean time i had some time to work on my beemer again!
I've finished the exhaustheaders and got the exhaust done till the end of the gearbox. I just need to put in 2 lambdasonde nuts and than that done.
Tommorrow i'm gonna cut the hole for the starter engine soo i can fit that thing on and i can start wiring and plumbing the engine up.
Here are some pics of the work.
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greetz,
Meindert
RonP
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Post by RonP »

Question for you! What steering are you going to use? Are you using the stock steering box, or fabbing up a rack? Also, could you post some shots of each side of the motor with the headers? My partner Phil has the same setup in his e28 4.0 with a 6 speed, but the headers are a little crude. Your pipes look magnificant! Thanks,
RP
b-tuning
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Post by b-tuning »

coopa.s wrote:Can't wait to see it finished..

Where abouts were you down here?
Coopa's
mostly i was in the Goondiwindi QLD area, cause i did the harvestrun up there. But after that i drove down south to a little town called Willaura VIC and after harvesting there i went to Burleigh Heads QLD to just sit at the beach for a couple of weeks.
carnut
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Post by carnut »

unreal.
i would love to see your car up close one day.
well done!
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