Poll: HP Contest!

T_C_D · Post by **T_C_D** » Feb 03, 2005 4:19 PM

Let's hear who you think will make more HP by the end of the year 2005.

Duke
ChrisM
TCD
Sweeney

Second poll:

Who will break the most parts?

Anyone lurkers out there that plan to blow us all away? I know of one S38 Turbo that thinks so. Any others? Mostly just refering to board members.

Todd

alpinajim · Post by **alpinajim** » Feb 03, 2005 5:11 PM

Any up to date numbers for the aforementioned folks who have results? Goals/numbers in mind?

Still tweaking
Jim

RDAvena · Post by **RDAvena** » Feb 03, 2005 5:26 PM

Broken parts:
TCD
Duke
Sweeney
ChrisM

HP
TCD that MS build will give better numbers
Sweeney
CHrisM
Duke -until he goets the car sorted out.

[Edit by RDAvena on [TIME]1107469621[/TIME]]

Raj · Post by **Raj** » Feb 03, 2005 5:52 PM

Most HP:
Duke (once he gets it properly tuned)
Sweeney (6 throttle bodies with boost?)
Todd
Chris M (unless he throws in some propane injection)

Most Broken Parts:
Duke (driveline/rear end/rear suspension casualties from all the power)
Todd (the head gasket slayer)
Sweeney
Chris M (it's a friggin' diesel)

Tjn182 · Post by **Tjn182** » Feb 03, 2005 6:19 PM

For some reason I vote myself on broken parts -- I'm already down 1 turbo engine.

bmw335is turbo · Post by **bmw335is turbo** » Feb 03, 2005 8:53 PM

Hey Todd I might have one.

T_C_D · Post by **T_C_D** » Feb 03, 2005 9:05 PM

[QUOTE="bmw335is turbo"]Hey Todd I might have one.

[/QUOTE]

Did it start?

bmw335is turbo · Post by **bmw335is turbo** » Feb 03, 2005 9:15 PM

Sunday it will. I ran out of time that night i called you I am pretty sure i now the problem.
I will keep you posted.

[Edit by bmw335is turbo on [TIME]1107483395[/TIME]]

chrism · Post by **chrism** » Feb 03, 2005 9:49 PM

ChrisM has more than just a diesel

The really "cobbled together" Turbo 535
Callaway Manifold
Cartech intercooler
Syclone heat exchanger
3" inch Exhaust

TCD beater

[Edit by chrism on [TIME]1107485524[/TIME]]

al525i · Post by **al525i** » Feb 03, 2005 10:24 PM

chris, you should probably add into the spec sheet for the 535ist something to the tune of :
hole in engine
loose nut behind wheel :p
and probably frozen brakes from sitting

hehe

Raj · Post by **Raj** » Feb 04, 2005 12:58 AM

ChrisM has more than just a diesel

Damn, I didn't know you still had that one. I thought you had sold it for some reason. Might have to rethink my predictions...

Duke · Post by **Duke** » Feb 04, 2005 1:02 AM

I ain't saying crap untill my "box of parts" is running.

As far as build for turbo an big HP............me.

gol10dr1 · Post by **gol10dr1** » Feb 04, 2005 1:31 AM

i hope to have 400 rwhp with the tuned tec III and much more boost, but something tells me i wont be the hp leader. let the contest begin!!!!

chrism · Post by **chrism** » Feb 04, 2005 9:00 AM

[QUOTE="al525i"]chris, you should probably add into the spec sheet for the 535ist something to the tune of :
hole in engine
loose nut behind wheel :p
and probably frozen brakes from sitting

hehe[/QUOTE]

well theres plenty of parts piled in the trunk to fix those problems:
M30 B35
BMW sportline wood steering wheel
Nurenburgring front brakes
bigger turbo
bigger injectors
17X9 style 5's
spec clutch
2.79 LSD rear
and probabaly more i cant remember

T_C_D · Post by **T_C_D** » Feb 04, 2005 10:28 AM

OK guys,

I know of a few guys building nasty projects that did not come forward.

Here are my thoughts. I know that I am going to run more boost than anyone else out there. My compression is 7.5:1. I only have $700 in my engine so I have no fear of blowing it up! I am a boost junky. I figure my base boost will be 20psi. Good for the street and cruising around town. But late in the year, I am going to seriously push it and see what happens. I'll run some sort of supplemental injection and go for 25-27psi.

You guys, will need to runs some serious boost if you want to eclipse my numbers.

Todd

Duke · Post by **Duke** » Feb 04, 2005 10:39 AM

[QUOTE="TCD"]You guys, will need to runs some serious boost if you want to eclipse my numbers.

Todd[/QUOTE]

Maybe not,
The reason I had my M106 block built with a balanced crank, weight matched connecting rods, oil squirters (had to have them installed), weight matched and ceramic coated pistons and the extensive head work (H6S baby) is so I can match or exceed said HP number with LESS boost. All of the little pieces put together makes for a very efficient 3.5L turbo motor. Bottom line, I will not have to run high boost for high HP.

T_C_D · Post by **T_C_D** » Feb 04, 2005 11:28 AM

[QUOTE="TCD"]You guys, will need to runs some serious boost if you want to eclipse my numbers.

Todd[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="Duke M535Ti"]Maybe not,
The reason I had my M106 block built with a balanced crank, weight matched connecting rods, oil squirters (had to have them installed), weight matched and ceramic coated pistons and the extensive head work (H6S baby) is so I can match or exceed said HP number with LESS boost. All of the little pieces put together makes for a very efficient 3.5L turbo motor. Bottom line, I will not have to run high boost for high HP. [/QUOTE]

Duke,

I doubt the ceramic coating is worth any HP at all. Longevity yes, but power? No. All the wieght match is great but you won't be turning 9000rpm. Will it help, yes, but how much. The cylinder head is the key. How much better do you think it is over a stock B35 head?

Todd

Duke · Post by **Duke** » Feb 04, 2005 11:39 AM

[QUOTE="TCD"]I doubt the ceramic coating is worth any HP at all. Longevity yes, but power? No. All the wieght match is great but you won't be turning 9000rpm. Will it help, yes, but how much. The cylinder head is the key. How much better do you think it is over a stock B35 head?

Todd[/QUOTE]

Ceramic coat will be huge for power. Pistons, CC, valves stay cooler, allowing for more boost and less detination.

I have bigger intake and exhaust valves than a B35 and much better porting. I had to take a lot of material off of the B35 manifold to match the Hartge head -

Only the dyno will know, until then its all hot air.

T_C_D · Post by **T_C_D** » Feb 04, 2005 11:54 AM

"Only the dyno will know, until then its all hot air."

Forget the dyno, we'll line them up when you return to the USA!

Todd

Duke · Post by **Duke** » Feb 04, 2005 1:08 PM

Oh no my friend............top end. Your and my car are made for two different driving environments.
And this thread was about the amount of HP NOT drag racing. Oh, and you were the one who started the thread too.

[Edit by Duke M535Ti on [TIME]1107599960[/TIME]]

fastpat · Post by **fastpat** » Feb 04, 2005 1:23 PM

[QUOTE="TCD"]Let's hear who you think will make more HP by the end of the year 2005.

Duke
ChrisM
TCD
Sweeney

Second poll:

Who will break the most parts?

Anyone lurkers out there that plan to blow us all away? I know of one S38 Turbo that thinks so. Any others? Mostly just refering to board members.

Todd[/QUOTE]

Can I post a "theoretical engine" in this contest?

T_C_D · Post by **T_C_D** » Feb 04, 2005 1:31 PM

[QUOTE="TCD"]Let's hear who you think will make more HP by the end of the year 2005.

Duke
ChrisM
TCD
Sweeney

Second poll:

Who will break the most parts?

Anyone lurkers out there that plan to blow us all away? I know of one S38 Turbo that thinks so. Any others? Mostly just refering to board members.

Todd[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="fastpat"]Can I post a "theoretical engine" in this contest?[/QUOTE]

Sure.

John In Valdosta · Post by **John In Valdosta** » Feb 04, 2005 2:03 PM

Most HP
Darkhorse Candidate #1
Duke
Sweeney
TCD
Chris M

Break the most parts
TCD
Duke (he'll break more than TCD but won't tell anybody)
Chris M
Sweeney(he does everything perfect anyway)

Tjn182 · Post by **Tjn182** » Feb 04, 2005 2:23 PM

Todd -- Don't forget all that leather Duke has -- Thats worth a couple of ponies alone!

T_C_D · Post by **T_C_D** » Feb 04, 2005 2:32 PM

[QUOTE="alpinajim"]Any up to date numbers for the aforementioned folks who have results? Goals/numbers in mind?

Still tweaking
Jim[/QUOTE]

Jim,

How about some details on your setup? You have never posted what you actually had. It's going to require 400rwhp to get into this contest.

Todd

bmwbimmer · Post by **bmwbimmer** » Feb 04, 2005 2:40 PM

Hi there guys I am new to this but I just wanted to say even though I do not have a e28 bmw but I know of someone that will give you guys a run. Todd knows who that is and that would be my best freind jason and his 335ist so he may not have a e28 but he does have the m30 engine along with the turbo set up from TCD and a Metric Machnic head and a Dinan intake and a big bore throttle body. The car is not running yet but it will be this sunday. I can't wait to see that sucker go its going to be fast thats for sure.

RDAvena · Post by **RDAvena** » Feb 04, 2005 2:45 PM

[QUOTE="Duke M535Ti"] is so I can match or exceed said HP number with LESS boost. All of the little pieces put together makes for a very efficient 3.5L turbo motor. Bottom line, I will not have to run high boost for high HP. [/QUOTE]

Famous last words.

Boost is very addictive. Once you have felt it, more is never enough.

bmwbimmer · Post by **bmwbimmer** » Feb 04, 2005 4:26 PM

I know what you mean RDAvena the first time I was in a turbocharged BMW was when my buddy jason had a 1986 528i that was turbocharged and that car was so fast and it pulled so hard If I remember right that car was running 20 or 24 lbs. of boost let me tell you it was a kick to drive. Untill the head gave up the rotor came loose and spun in the cap. Thats when we decided to turbo a m30 3.5 liter and we where going to us the old CAR TEC kit untill we meat Todd and joson bought one of his turbo kits its going to be a real kick in the pants we are going to try for 20 to 24 lbs of boost later on down the road after we work out all the bugs.

bmwbimmer · Post by **bmwbimmer** » Feb 04, 2005 4:33 PM

I know what you mean RDAvena the first time I was in a turbocharged BMW was when my buddy jason had a 1986 528i that was turbocharged and that car was so fast and it pulled so hard If I remember right that car was running 20 or 24 lbs. of boost let me tell you it was a kick to drive. Untill the head gave up the rotor came loose and spun in the cap. Thats when we decided to turbo a m30 3.5 liter and we where going to us the old CAR TEC kit untill we meat Todd and joson bought one of his turbo kits its going to be a real kick in the pants we are going to try for 20 to 24 lbs of boost later on down the road after we work out all the bugs.

Justin in C'ville · Post by **Justin in C'ville** » Feb 04, 2005 9:30 PM

[QUOTE="TCD"]Jim,

How about some details on your setup? You have never posted what you actually had. It's going to require 400rwhp to get into this contest.

Todd[/QUOTE]

Give me some 100 Octane for my 9:1 motor and i'd be right there with ya. that is, if my MS setup every shows up. Now, if i could talk my sister into building a turbo 2.7L for her euro e21..... I've read that the curb weight is in the 2400lb range for that thing!

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Poll: HP Contest!