(FS) Rare 1985 Euro M5 Car Located in Toronto, CA

[Duke]

Ted in T.O. has verified the car as a real Euro M5 through examination.

See, all it took was a little cooperation from the seller. The seller wants $25,000 Canadian $s though. Good luck with that.

[Euro-M5]

[Adam W in MN]

Saliya

For you that think I am a “keyboard bully”, I am when it comes to seeing something fishy and wanting to protect my fellow E28 enthusiasts.

Duke, you're certainly not willing to eat some crow and admit that you were wrong about the car's authenticity I see.

Looks like Saliya stepped up to the plate on this and came through with the requested information.

[Ted in T.O.]

Okay guys here is the scoop on this car.It is the real McCoy in terms of being a true Euro M5.The VIN puts it between Richard Beaver and Bryan Wilby's cars in the USA.After a few email's on what to look for and Sia comming along with me to check the car out it is a Euro M5.Saliya also sent me pics of the original ownership the day it went into service and when i went to look at the car i saw them again.It has a brand new Glasurit paint job that is very deep and no orange peel.The 2 sides of the car are straight and true with no dings.The exhaust is not rusted out and it sounds like an M5.The strut towers are solid.8" in the front and 9" E34 T Star wheels in the back.Boy does that look mean.The holes on either side of the front valance were for a Alpina spoiler that the car had on it.The car needs some TLC in the interior.Outside the car shows very well.The clutch pedal return spring needs to be replaced.No A/C.Power front windows and sunroof.Crank windows in the back.Rear sunshade.No rust in the spare tire well or around the sunroof tracks.In conclusion the car show beautifuly but it needs some TLC here and there.Pm me for more details.
I would like to address the subject of the way Saliya was treated by a few board members with regards to the thread about this car.Every person has their reasons why they do not want to reveal their VINs.We have to respect that as a group.Saliya was not trying to hide anything and i didn't think the thread needed any name calling.We are a community of E28 enthusiasts that love our cars.We love to seek out info about how we can make them better.We love to share our mods.We all strive to have the perfect E28.None of us have that unless you still have one with no miles on it.Our cars are perfect in our minds and we love to show them to others.Saliya is a very knowledgable person when it comes to M cars and E28's.He is a great source for rare Euro parts for our cars.Just check his website.www.euromcars.com.Lets not discourage any newby's at our website.The more people we have,the more knowlede and the longer our cars will run.With all that being said i am done with my ranting.
Youre Truly Ted in T.O.

PS I don't mean to be a Beamter.

[Duke]

Duke, you're certainly not willing to eat some crow and admit that you were wrong about the car's authenticity I see.

Hell no, I am not. I have eaten crow in the past and am sure will again in the future. Not in this case though.

Lets see, a guy we have NEVER heard from comes on the board with a car for sell that is very different that a typical Euro M5. It does not have any leather on the interior items, no A/C or rear electric windows. Yes that is possible in a Euro car but not likely that M5 buyer would elect not to have those options, again possible. That set off warning bells for me because I lived in Germany for five years and have seen fake M5s like this aty car shows. Like I stated originally, there are A LOT of shady people in Germany selling fake or altered items. I have BTDT.

I express my concerns to my fellow E28 enthusiasts. I, unlike the seller, am a know person who has sold too many people on this board and have an excellent reputation for customer service and product.

Saliya was pompous about himself and the car and would not answer the legitimate questions asked about it. I see that he has now gone back and changed the pictures he originally posted with more detailed pictures per our requests which he should have done in the first place.

I do welcome new people to the boards. Now if you come off cocky with a higher then though attitude I will call you out if you are trying to sell a car or item that is suspect of not being what you claim. Now that the car has been verified by known and respected mye28 members we can move forward with it being sold.

You all should be thanking me, not giving me crap about protecting you.

Finally, Saliya I hope you understand why this thread went this direction. We are a close community here and look out for each other. Thank you for making this very rare example of a Euro M5 available to us.

[Euro-M5]

Here’s my back ground if you haven’t dealt with me before, I’ve owned BMWs since 1987 and my first BMW was a 1983 Euro 528i that was converted in Germany with a 635csi dirt Motor, 5 speed Close Ratio Trans, 3.25 LS diff, BBS front spoilers, side skirts, rear skirt, RECARO LS front seats etc. I bought it right after I retuned from Germany with my uncle whom I was helping with checking and picking up the BMWs and Mercedes he was importing from Germany. Since then I’ve owned tons of BMWs including all the US Model M cars, the only M cars I have not owned are 1995 M5 6 speed Sedan or Touring. I am also BMW CCA # 93498 since 1988.

The reason I had no other photos of the Euro M5 was, since I bought it last year from my partner in Germany, we had it stored until it was shipped here. So all the low Res. Photos you saw were taken a while back, and I had to fly out to Toronto to get the photos to show the current condition. This car was a no option M5 which only had the front Power windows, door locks and Power sunroof. It had cloth seats and TRX wheels. My partner in Germany bought it in 1997 and slowly started to transform it to a full luxury edition M5, I bought it half way through and wanted to bring it to its original condition, hence I sold the Electric leather / heated seats with the door panels which he had installed (2000 Euros, boy those Germans love the leather seats)

Any how, if I decide to bring it stateside it will get a set of newly upholstered the Leather seats with rare optional RECARO-N seats in the front, along with the Glass Moon Roof, Headlight washers/wipers and Factory 16 x 71/2 BBS Cross spoke wheels which I just had refinished. I will offer all those items to the prospective buyers as well.

The next car I am going to show photos of is also a Euro E28 M5 which has been in California since 1985 and possibly has around 225k+ miles, it is getting a Euro 3.8 M5 engine and a full restoration. I supplied all the Euro 3.8 conversion parts and helping the owner out with the conversion. Unfortunately, it is not going to be an Original E28 M5 but at least will have a true Euro M5 engine in it….

[Duke]

Saliya,

Thanks for the background and for going to all of the trouble bringing these cars over. I look forward to seeing what you have next.

I will be in the market for a 6 speed transmission from a 96 E34 M5. I will bolt up nicely to my M106 TCD turbo engine.

[robeyff]

Posted: 18 Mar 2006 00:29 Post subject:

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Thanks for the criticism / bashing about the car, I am not sure how much experience everyone who comments have with these cars, I have owned Euro / US E28 cars (M535i, M5, 535i, 528i etc) since 1986 and very familiar with them. Main purpose of the listing was to see if anyone is seriously interested in buying such a rare collectable car on the E28 Board itself. So far, not a single email, thus tells me that it is not intended for the dreamers or tire kickers.

Here’s how the car was when I acquired it about a year ago in Germany, it came with the original TRX Wheels as well as the 16” REMOTEC Wheels (16x9” Rear); they are all listed on the German Title as well.

I'm glad the car is genuine, everyone is all warm and fuzzy now, and peace and harmony reign throughout the MyE28 Kingdom - but the response above to legitimate concerns about the authenticity of a major purchase was inappropriate - seller might be a great guy, help the needy, take in stray animals, etc., but I would suggest that in the future if he is unable to politely respond to questions or discussions about his items for sale (one of the purposes of this board), Ebay or private emails to a list of "preapproved" buyers might be a better way to go - insulting prospective buyers for trying to find out more about the item for sale is not a proven sales technique I am familiar with. If no one had been interested in the car there would have been no discussion about it - the discussion/interest level was high after the seller's initial post, affording him an excellent opportunity to further expound upon the merits of his automobile and increase the chances for a sale - he chose to do otherwise.

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