Well I figured as long as we have evidence that the seller is a scammer (which we do now) I figured it shouldn't be too difficult of a process? Then again I've never had to do a paypal claim so I guess we will see how it plays out.dude8383 wrote:Great... my "package" has arrived in Flushing NY. I knew that once this guy fell of the planet we'd be saying sorryreesesboot wrote:Hi everyone,
I just received my "euro bumpers" in the mail.
This is what was in the box.
Same tracking number as what paypal gave me. I'm now opening a dispute on PayPal. This asshole is likely scamming you too.
Let me know how that goes... considering that there's a legitimate tracking number there Paypal may not be too easy to deal with.drosas wrote:thanks for the update. starting a paypal claim as well
E28 Euro center bumper NEW Front Rear bumper
The problem with PayPal is that if you've received something, they're going to tell you to # sand. Doesn't matter if it's the wrong item or what.
If you used a credit card, your best bet is to go through your credit card provider.
It's for these reasons I will only deal with trusted sellers.
Of course, have you contacted the seller to see if there was a simple mistake?
If you used a credit card, your best bet is to go through your credit card provider.
It's for these reasons I will only deal with trusted sellers.
Of course, have you contacted the seller to see if there was a simple mistake?
So your telling me I used my debut card and basically I'm f***ed... Damn dude... $550... F***wkohler wrote:The problem with PayPal is that if you've received something, they're going to tell you to # sand. Doesn't matter if it's the wrong item or what.
If you used a credit card, your best bet is to go through your credit card provider.
It's for these reasons I will only deal with trusted sellers.
Of course, have you contacted the seller to see if there was a simple mistake?
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Here's some pictures of the actual package. You can tell that I wasn't too happy when opening it. The tracking number on the package matches the supplied tracking number supplied by PayPal and the package has my correct name and address (obviously). When it went through customs, the seller wrote that the value of the item was $1. I find it highly unlikely that the seller simply made a "mistake." Nonetheless, the representative from Paypal said it should be an easy claim due to the fact that the claim doesn't concern the quality of the item received but the item itself. A cluster gauge is not remotely close to any car bumper. The only thing that I'm worried about at this point is having to ship the gauge BACK to Bulgaria and waste time and money when I should be throwing my money at Ivo.
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In my particular case, I received an item that is not remotely close to the size/price of car bumpers. Because my case has nothing to do with subjectivity (i.e. "The product is not of quality the seller suggested"), she said the claim will be straight forward. Basically he has 10 days to respond to the dispute. The money is frozen. If he does not respond within the 10 days, all the money is returned. If he does respond, he'll have to be a pretty damn impressive lawyer to convince PayPal that a cluster gauge doubles as car bumpers.
You other buyers will most likely have to wait until your package comes. Hell, it might even be the euro bumpers you bought. Who knows.
You other buyers will most likely have to wait until your package comes. Hell, it might even be the euro bumpers you bought. Who knows.
I just made a payment on the 31 of January... I haven't received anything yet but seeing this... I don't think I'm getting any bumpers.. I'm going to call paypal tomorrow... I will call now, don't think they are open....The payment came out my account already... Do you think it's still frozen on his side.. Thanks got the update everyonereesesboot wrote:In my particular case, I received an item that is not remotely close to the size/price of car bumpers. Because my case has nothing to do with subjectivity (i.e. "The product is not of quality the seller suggested"), she said the claim will be straight forward. Basically he has 10 days to respond to the dispute. The money is frozen. If he does not respond within the 10 days, all the money is returned. If he does respond, he'll have to be a pretty damn impressive lawyer to convince PayPal that a cluster gauge is also car bumpers.
How did you setup the claim without receiving your package? My item is supposed to arrive today...Bing wrote:Yea called, so they can freeze the money immediately... Even though once you make a dispute it automatically freezes the money anyway... But call to make sure, they can start the process even faster.
BTW, a little tidbit for you guys on international payments via PayPal:
Need to file a dispute? If you have a problem with this payment to someone in another country, you have up to 180 days to file a dispute.
Well I told them, I'm not the only one been scammed. I reported to them that other forum members receive something totally different... So they put the money on freeze... Once you make a claim...if they don't here from seller... Money will be returned in your account.dude8383 wrote:How did you setup the claim without receiving your package? My item is supposed to arrive today...Bing wrote:Yea called, so they can freeze the money immediately... Even though once you make a dispute it automatically freezes the money anyway... But call to make sure, they can start the process even faster.
BTW, a little tidbit for you guys on international payments via PayPal:
Need to file a dispute? If you have a problem with this payment to someone in another country, you have up to 180 days to file a dispute.
ovide wrote:This is horrible guys....hope Paypal will step up and help.
If not, does anyone have address info? My dad is in Bulgaria and could help out maybe...
Hope you guys know not everyone with Bulgarian blood pulls these kind of scams....
This makes me smile. Only because I'm imagining some sort of eastern-european street justice. Then again, I'm probably watching too many Hollywood movies.Here's hoping you guys get your money back.
Maybe we can gather all the bogus parts together and assemle something and then burn it in effigy.
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Update
The claim has already gone through and I'm receiving a full refund. I still have to pay for shipping to Bulgaria which sucks but good to know PayPal came through. As I said before, if you received a tracking number you should wait until you receive the package before filing the claim. You don't know what you're receiving yet and the claim in contingent on what you actually get.
The claim has already gone through and I'm receiving a full refund. I still have to pay for shipping to Bulgaria which sucks but good to know PayPal came through. As I said before, if you received a tracking number you should wait until you receive the package before filing the claim. You don't know what you're receiving yet and the claim in contingent on what you actually get.
Woah, which method did you select? This is what the seller says via PAYPAL:reesesboot wrote:Update
The claim has already gone through and I'm receiving a full refund. I still have to pay for shipping to Bulgaria which sucks but good to know PayPal came through. As I said before, if you received a tracking number you should wait until you receive the package before filing the claim. You don't know what you're receiving yet and the claim in contingent on what you actually get.
Paypal also declined my request for refund.From Seller - Vintageautopartsbankya2/4/2014 11:37 PST
We apologize for the situation. There's been confusion in the
warehouse for many items. Please return our consignment to refund your payment.
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I called PayPal directly and talked to a representative. I told her the situation and she took care of the rest. I believe once you receive the wrong item and tell PayPal what you received, it will fall under their jurisdiction to refund the money through PayPal and not the seller. The protection program states that if you receive a product completely unlike what you intended to buy, then PayPal has the right to demand money back from the seller and give it back to you. Basically wait until you receive the package and hope it's a very small item because you might have to send it back.
gotcha. its out for delivery today... hoping my girlfriend will catch the postman.reesesboot wrote:I called PayPal directly and talked to a representative. I told her the situation and she took care of the rest. I believe once you receive the wrong item and tell PayPal what you received, it will fall under their jurisdiction to refund the money through PayPal and not the seller. The protection program states that if you receive a product completely unlike what you intended to buy, then PayPal has the right to demand money back from the seller and give it back to you. Basically wait until you receive the package and hope it's a very small item because you might have to send it back.
if its a tiny package then i will be calling paypal directly.
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Hope everything goes as well as it did for me. After looking at shipping estimates from USPS, it's going to cost +- $25 to ship it back. I told PayPal that this is ridiculous because the item is essentially worthless and to request from the seller an OK to not send it back. PayPal surprised me and said they'd reimburse me for shipping costs up to $25.
+1ovide wrote:Hope you guys know not everyone with Bulgarian blood pulls these kind of scams....
Not very happy hearing/reading about this kind of stuff as well.
Judging by this there might be some resolution:
But then again the seller should have stepped up here and addressed the issues.From Seller - Vintageautopartsbankya2/4/2014 11:37 PST
We apologize for the situation. There's been confusion in the
warehouse for many items. Please return our consignment to refund your payment.
In case nothing changes, give us a name (from the shipping label) and city (the paypal username hints the city of Bankya). The Bulgarian BMW forum might be a good point of reference for such business.
Bing, check that tracking number on USPS... I posted the link for my tracking number on page 1.Bing wrote:RI095832925BG, that's the tracking I got via PayPal from seller, so now I gotta wait till I receive the item... If it's not what's expected then I can change the claim. Don't even know the shipping company.