Mike W. wrote: May 21, 2024 12:45 PM
mewherman wrote: May 21, 2024 2:25 AM
So I bought this cheap because it was in shockingly unrusty conditon for a 1979 528i in Canada, and it has what is allegedly an M30b35 with that I think is called the 265? 5speed transmission and it ran and drove onto my trailer.
Welcome to the group!
If it's a 5 speed and the speedo works it's a 265, that's the only 5 speed with a speedo drive. The 265 has a 3 piece case, plus a removable bellhousing. To further confuse you both the very similar, but 2 piece case 262 and the 265 have a 262 number cast into the front part of the case.
First of all, thank you for taking the time to reply!. I neglected to mention that it is missing the clutch inspection cover and you can simply see the back of the flywheel. I was not able to find a part number for this piece. It does have a speedo cable installed but the speed cable upper part is broken.
My main question is whether it actually is an M30b35.(it does appear to have the toothed tone wheel for motronic 1.3) I also have many misgivings about the quality of this engine swap.
The intake side of the block will sort of tell you the displacement, the original 2.8 would have a 2.5/2.8 cast in denoting the 86MM bore, a 3.5 would have a 3.5 as it was the only one with a 92MM bore.
It does say 3.5 on the intake, but my googling has shown me photos of b30b34 engines that have the same intake so I wasn't sure if that was diagnostic.
So this photo is of the oil filter housing, now I'm a non-expert but the b35 in photos I've seen has this top loading cartridge set up, but this guy looks like it's from the original engine or maybe the whole bottom end is original who knows, all I know is it's facing downward and is jammed so hard into the engine mount that there is no way you can change the oil.
I don't know why it would be jammed against the motor mount, but you're correct, it is the earlier oil filter.
Yeah I'm not sure what to make of that, there must have not been room for the top loader filter housing or they couldn't use it for whatever reason, the bottom of the filter housing is touching the rubber mount.
Another thing that I have no photos of is the transmission mount, it only has one mount on the passenger side, the transmission case has right and left flanges for mounts, but the bracket only has accommodations for one mount, also all the nuts are finger tight on the mount.
Odd looking yes, but that was stock on E12s and E24s thru 82.
Well that is good to know other than the nuts that hold it on not being tight.
The engine has strong indications that it originally had an engine driven clutch fan which is missing for obvious reasons, there is a small electric fan operating as a pusher in front of the rad, is this original? Or has someone put this there, also I have yet to see it do anything.
Yes, it should have an engine driven fan. It's a tight fit, so tight that I've found the minimal fan shroud to have no effect, figure half an inch clearance between the fan and the radiator. But they did also come with a pretty beefy aux electric fan in front of the A/C condenser, 2 speed off switches on the bottom right of the radiator, low speed is nearly silent, high speed you can hear on the freeway. 5 blade, roughly 15" diameter
yes the threads of the fan mount are almost touching the radiator, so you are saying this electric fan is capable of cooling the engine?
The transmission has a strong whining noise in neutral. Maybe there is no oil in it? Who knows.
While rugged and strong, the 265 does have a problem with the input bearing getting noisy. Change the oil, GL 4 is spec'd, especially in Canada a GL 5 will make for difficult cold shifting. There's a thousand threads and opinions on the "perfect" tranny oil.
Yes, all fluids will be changed, it only whines in neutral with the clutch engaged, not while driving.
There are a few other things I have questions about, I appear to have most of the vacuum lines for the evap system missing? Is this going to cause all kinds of issues for me? There are also many electrical plugs that are just plugged into nothing and I have no idea what they are supposed to be for. That said, the engine runs just fine after I changed a fouled spark plug.
I like the evap system stock, it works and decreases emissions a little bit without making it run any worse. Unplugged electrical plugs? E28s had a few, but not E12s that I can remember, so probably a fallout of the less than perfect engine swap.
Yes, so there are probably four or five electrical plugs that appear to be part of the engine harness that are not connected to anything, there is a green coloured vacuum switch on the intake that is part of the purge evap that has nothing going to it. I'm not sure if that should be plugged or what.
I've ordered a number of parts to hopefully get this recommissioned.
The main issue I have at the moment is actually the fact that the person who swapped this bodged the throttle, and the original parts from the E12 chassis that I need to hook up the throttle cable and make it work are missing.
Namely "lever" Part #: 35411113233 and "rod" Part #: 35411107644
Don't hold your breath on those parts fitting that intake, the E12 rod went up thru the intake between the runners.
Oh no, it's the rod and linkage that came from the accelerator pedal in the cab to the fulcrum that is on the engine mount that is missing. The way that the throttle is hooked up on e12 swaps based on the article on the firstfives site uses these missing parts.
also, nothing electrical works except the power sunroof.
Windows might be as simple as the circuit breakers that are located on the kick panel below the steering column.
The breakers are not blown but I'm not too worried about the troubleshooting of stock electrical system stuff. I ordered a copy of the e12 shop manual with the wiring diagrams so it should be just a matter of diagnosing and replacing or repairing those parts.
My main question for you kind-hearted forum users would be to pursue my photos and see if you can eyeball anything I might not notice that I should be paying attention to. I would also love some wiring diagrams for this engine, so I can trace down this rat's nest, otherwise it will never be reliable.
Your pics aren't bad, but bigger would be a big help. Yes the photos became compressed and you can't see anything, I'll post direct links later and take more photos.
Wiring diagrams for many E28 and newer cars are located here,
http://wedophones.com/BMWManualsLead.htm If a price is listed it's usually still available, but the prices are not at all accurate.
A valuable resource that lists most every part is here,
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/
Thank you!
https://www.firstfives.org/ is a forum for E12s. I'm there also. Not very active these days, but it's pretty slow here too.
Yes, I joined that site but I have not received an activation email.