Competition for TCD.................another M30 turbo kit.

[m.olennick]

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.popcornpalace.com 647
www.dinancars.com 1,202

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.alpina-automobiles.com 548
www.popcornpalace.com 647

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.turbochargingdynamics.com 525
www.popcornpalace.com 647

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.millerperformancecars.com 19
www.popcornpalace.com 647

Popularity isn't everything, but it is something...

That might be, simply put, the stupidest, bullshit filled counter-point I have read in a discussion -- ever. You have done nothing except lower the quality of this topic.

[M635CSi]

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.popcornpalace.com 647
www.dinancars.com 1,202

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.alpina-automobiles.com 548
www.popcornpalace.com 647

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.turbochargingdynamics.com 525
www.popcornpalace.com 647

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.millerperformancecars.com 19
www.popcornpalace.com 647

Popularity isn't everything, but it is something...

That might be, simply put, the stupidest, bullshit filled counter-point I have read in a discussion -- ever. You have done nothing except lower the quality of this topic.

Sounds like you might be in charge of website promotion for Miller Performance. Ahahahaha

[Duke]

Dinan has more knowledge than most across the ENTIRE BMW product line since the early '80s. Not just M30 powered cars. Theve chipped 90% of them, and put turbos/SC on probably 80% of them at one time or another. Again, its not a knock, just that you need more time to get to a Dinan/Alpina tier.

No Steve Dinan does not. His employee do/did. So the knowledge is spread out over many people that are no long working there, specifically for our vintage cars. Ever try to get ANY kind of service on your car Russ? Thay have not a clue about their products that are 10-20 years old.

Steve, albeit he has a technical background, is just a company executive and manages people, assets and time.

[m.olennick]

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.popcornpalace.com 647
www.dinancars.com 1,202

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.alpina-automobiles.com 548
www.popcornpalace.com 647

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.turbochargingdynamics.com 525
www.popcornpalace.com 647

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.millerperformancecars.com 19
www.popcornpalace.com 647

Popularity isn't everything, but it is something...

That might be, simply put, the stupidest, bullshit filled counter-point I have read in a discussion -- ever. You have done nothing except lower the quality of this topic.

Sounds like you might be in charge of website promotion for Miller Performance. Ahahahaha

I'm in the market for a turbo kit, not in the line of advertising them. Undoubtedly Dinan will have more web page views having been around so long, let alone being endorsed by BMWNA. At any dealership if you ask for modifications what are they likely to recommend, Dinan. Hence increasing web traffic. Use your own damn mind and draw this conclussion before spitting out a stupid, non-factual demographic.

[M635CSi]

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.popcornpalace.com 647
www.dinancars.com 1,202

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.alpina-automobiles.com 548
www.popcornpalace.com 647

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.turbochargingdynamics.com 525
www.popcornpalace.com 647

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.millerperformancecars.com 19
www.popcornpalace.com 647

Popularity isn't everything, but it is something...

That might be, simply put, the stupidest, bullshit filled counter-point I have read in a discussion -- ever. You have done nothing except lower the quality of this topic.

Sounds like you might be in charge of website promotion for Miller Performance. Ahahahaha

I'm in the market for a turbo kit, not in the line of advertising them. Undoubtedly Dinan will have more web page views having been around so long, let alone being endorsed by BMWNA. At any dealership if you ask for modifications what are they likely to recommend, Dinan. Hence increasing web traffic. Use your own damn mind and draw this conclussion before spitting out a stupid, non-factual demographic.

Gee, for an IT guy you don't understand much about how URLs work; they have nothing to do with "web page views" or "web traffic". Next issue, you're not at a BMW dealership now Einstein, you're on the internet. For purposes of this discussion it doesn't matter who or what BMW "endorses". The issue of "demographic” is irrelevant...

Struggling with consciousness the way you do, it follows you missed the comparison as being between Miller Performance and TCD. Alpina and Dinan are the benchmarks.

[senna4ever]

M635CSi wrote:


www.Travelleap.com 8
www.popcornpalace.com 647
www.dinancars.com 1,202

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.alpina-automobiles.com 548
www.popcornpalace.com 647

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.turbochargingdynamics.com 525
www.popcornpalace.com 647

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.millerperformancecars.com 19
www.popcornpalace.com 647

Popularity isn't everything, but it is something...



Yeah whatever. Obviously some have been around longer than others. If you want to make decisions based on those figures good luck.

Like I said before which was my main point, Miller does have the goods, they dont focus solely on kits, they build ground up customer spec cars - similar to an Alpina or Dinan. Bash em all you want - you only sound silly when you speak with little insults about things you know nothing about. I never made any such claims against a TCD car because I've never driven one. I've bought parts form TCD, and was seriously considering a TCD set up until I met the guys at Miller Performance.

There will always be someone bigger and better, simply a matter of opinion.

[Craig -535i- Seattle]

Does the Miller kit use a 745i exhaust manifold? Do they even have a complete kit out yet?

Still wondering about this. Anyone know?

It looks like you have a Miller 535i- is that the same kit they are talking about now?

[russc]

Dinan has more knowledge than most across the ENTIRE BMW product line since the early '80s.
RussC

Yeah, so, I have parted out almost the ENTIRE BMW product line from the mid 70s.

RussC

[m.olennick]

for an IT guy you don't understand much about how URLs work; they have nothing to do with "web page views" or "web traffic". Next issue, you're not at a BMW dealership now Einstein, you're on the internet. For purposes of this discussion it doesn't matter who or what BMW "endorses". The issue of "demographic” is irrelevant...

Struggling with consciousness the way you do, it follows you missed the comparison as being between Miller Performance and TCD. Alpina and Dinan are the benchmarks.

Your points are entirely invalid, entirely. You have to see that the larger number of hits generated are directly influenced by the endorsement by BMWNA of Dinan aftermarket parts. Furthermore having released Dinan branded BMW's this additionally increases the existence of the name. Take that into consideration along with the greater lifespan of the company and long routed history in racing, you've got the ingredients for a "popular" domain.

Do us a favor, don't post any figures any more. You obviously cannot decipher them enough to take into consideration the previously existing name branding from a separate unrelated market. If TCD or Miller had formed the many years ago that Dinan, Delage, Alpina, Schnitzer, Hamann or Hartge had, we would definitely see a higher figure in your bullshit statement. Whether it be in styling or racing, those listed companies have entered into this market through numerous venues, not merely forced induction.

Slip yourself back out of consciousness, you capricious cunt.

Edit: Name calling isn't doing anything. Stop trolling with your irrelevant facts and figures. Sorry for derailing the thread.

[senna4ever]

Craig -535i- Seattle wrote:
Does the Miller kit use a 745i exhaust manifold? Do they even have a complete kit out yet?


Craig you'd have to check with them, my car is a custom spec one-off as far as I know. Expensive yes, but I want the entire package. Its like a Foose BMW - call it Millertime if you like : )

[DMNaskale]

Slip yourself back out of consciousness, you capricious cunt.

This whole thread is mostly lame, but that is quite a line.

[M635CSi]

Your points are entirely invalid, entirely. You have to see that the larger number of hits generated are directly influenced by the endorsement by BMWNA of Dinan aftermarket parts. Furthermore having released Dinan branded BMW's this additionally increases the existence of the name. Take that into consideration along with the greater lifespan of the company and long routed history in racing, you've got the ingredients for a "popular" domain.

Do us a favor, don't post any figures any more. You obviously cannot decipher them enough to take into consideration the previously existing name branding from a separate unrelated market. If TCD or Miller had formed the many years ago that Dinan, Delage, Alpina, Schnitzer, Hamann or Hartge had, we would definitely see a higher figure in your bullshit statement. Whether it be in styling or racing, those listed companies have entered into this market through numerous venues, not merely forced induction.

Slip yourself back out of consciousness, you capricious cunt.

Edit: Name calling isn't doing anything. Stop trolling with your irrelevant facts and figures. Sorry for derailing the thread.

You're a funny guy. Not particularly bright, attentive to detail or adept at technology but funny none the less. I do agree you're best served having someone else build your car. With your demonstrated lack of technical ability and attention to detail, you most assuredly would fail if attempting any level of technical work yourself.

P.S. I corrected your post to accurately reflect the author.

[rlomba8204]

m.olennick: leave this thread alone before you get thrashed more thoroughly than you have been already.

You're a funny guy. Not particularly bright, attentive to detail or adept at technology but funny none the less. I do agree you're best served having someone else build your car. With your demonstrated lack of technical ability and attention to detail, you most assuredly would fail if attempting any level of technical work yourself.

LOL.

[wickahead]

What is available after looking at the Miller Performance website? Well, if we look deeper using publicly available tools, we can see at least what appears to be other people’s sentiments in as much as their willingness to link their site to one of the following – higher numbers are better…

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.popcornpalace.com 647
www.dinancars.com 1,202

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.alpina-automobiles.com 548
www.popcornpalace.com 647

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.turbochargingdynamics.com 525
www.popcornpalace.com 647

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.millerperformancecars.com 19
www.popcornpalace.com 647

Popularity isn't everything, but it is something...

Curiosity: What public tools are you using to get this info? Thanks, Mark

[Matt]

The Turbo System I paid a Left Nut for To Install On A 20 Year Old Car Is Way More Awesome Than the Turbo System You Sell For 20 Year Old Cars.

Why?

Because No Matter What, I Made the Right Decision.

My Left Nut Says So.

Even If your Turbo System Actually Helps me Bag Super Models, the One I've Already Got Is Better.

You See, Mine Is Made By Real Elves(tm), And SuperModels Have Hepatitis. And, If You Are So Great, Where Is Your JetPack?

QED

Sorry Todd - You may as well start selling magnetic fuel polarizers for carburreted Chevy's.

[M635CSi]

What is available after looking at the Miller Performance website? Well, if we look deeper using publicly available tools, we can see at least what appears to be other people’s sentiments in as much as their willingness to link their site to one of the following – higher numbers are better…

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.popcornpalace.com 647
www.dinancars.com 1,202

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.alpina-automobiles.com 548
www.popcornpalace.com 647

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.turbochargingdynamics.com 525
www.popcornpalace.com 647

www.Travelleap.com 8
www.millerperformancecars.com 19
www.popcornpalace.com 647

Popularity isn't everything, but it is something...

Curiosity: What public tools are you using to get this info? Thanks, Mark

Hi Mark, I used Marketleap ( http://www.marketleap.com/publinkpop/ ) to look at the link popularity I posted, http://whois.domaintools.com to look at domain registration information which I didn't post, and I right clicked the mouse to view the page source which allowed me to see (some) information about what key words were targeted and what techniques were used to generate the page. As it turns out, almost all the links to the Miller Performance site are internal links from other pages on the site. The means very little in and of itself, but as a drop of data, it is useful for due diligence purposes. Let me say right here, it makes no financial difference to me if I wake up tomorrow and find TCD and Miller Performance are going public, or if I find their corporate entity(s) are dissolved. But if I’m interested in doing business with a company I want it to be around and I want it to be financially strong. That’s in my best interest. Because these are private companies, they are not required to file financial statements. As such, gleaning information from public sources is valuable to get an idea where they are on the competitive map. I get calls every day from people who want to do business that involve huge financial risks. These tools and others allow me to get an idea if a company has been around and have good will at risk, or if their domain name was registered yesterday and may perhaps have nothing to lose.

[///ARINUTS...]

This is the worst thread ever.

We are lucky enough to have a few companies that specialize in performance products for our cars.

Everyone has their own opinion and anyone can buy whatever they want for their own car.

I am lucky enough to have a few BMWs, and because of that I can tell you that Each tuner has a different market.

I have learned a great Deal from Todd over the years, I am also learning from Dan Miller (over on the 745i forum). I respect them both.

[russc]

Craig -535i- Seattle wrote:
Does the Miller kit use a 745i exhaust manifold? Do they even have a complete kit out yet?


Craig you'd have to check with them, my car is a custom spec one-off as far as I know. Expensive yes, but I want the entire package. Its like a Foose BMW - call it Millertime if you like : )

Um,
Just poke your head under the hood and look for 2 seconds. You'll see it right away if its a M102 manifold or a custom?

RussC

[senna4ever]

Hey Russ, Its custom. Nice ride btw

[Tammer in Philly]

The Turbo System I paid a Left Nut for To Install On A 20 Year Old Car Is Way More Awesome Than the Turbo System You Sell For 20 Year Old Cars.

Why?

Because No Matter What, I Made the Right Decision.

My Left Nut Says So.

Even If your Turbo System Actually Helps me Bag Super Models, the One I've Already Got Is Better.

You See, Mine Is Made By Real Elves(tm), And SuperModels Have Hepatitis. And, If You Are So Great, Where Is Your JetPack?

QED

Sorry Todd - You may as well start selling magnetic fuel polarizers for carburreted Chevy's.

Now *that* is some funny shit. And on that note, I am leaving lab.

-tammer

[senna4ever]

no doubt. You guys are crazy. I love it

[River City Speed]

I want the last 15 min. off my life back.

[russc]

I want the last 15 min. off my life back.

Oh,
Get over it, I thought it was kinda fun, we haven't had a one day 4 page thread war in a while.

RussC

[River City Speed]

LOL, you DO have a point...

[senna4ever]

I know, great isnt it.

Wait till I send Miller my e28 to turbo, that will get it going all over again.

[T_C_D]

I know, great isnt it.

Wait till I send Miller my e28 to turbo, that will get it going all over again.

The thing is that there is no data, no time slips, no nothing. Just talk. We all know that talk is cheap. That's the only reason this thread is so long.

When you bring data to the discussion it will make for a very short argument. Until then it's all conjecture on your part.

[m.olennick]

I know, great isnt it.

Wait till I send Miller my e28 to turbo, that will get it going all over again.

The thing is that there is no data, no time slips, no nothing. Just talk. We all know that talk is cheap. That's the only reason this thread is so long.

When you bring data to the discussion it will make for a very short argument. Until then it's all conjecture on your part.

A swift bitchslap indeed.

[senna4ever]

God... i mean Todd had trouble as a youngster letting other kids play in the sandbox

[T_C_D]

God... i mean Todd had trouble as a youngster letting other kids play in the sandbox

I am starting to think that everything you say is fiction. I wonder if your cars even exist.

[senna4ever]

Ya, thats why I bought my last exhaust from you.

It's ok Todd everyone here still loves you. Dont let me bruise your ego.