Competition for TCD.................another M30 turbo kit.

[Duke]

Hat??? Todd, you holding out on me???

We need TCD T-shirts and sweatshirts too.

TCD logo on the front - "Got Boost?" on the back.

[gol10dr1]

Hat??? Todd, you holding out on me???

We need TCD T-shirts and sweatshirts too.

TCD logo on the front - "Got Boost?" on the back.

i'll take 2!

[Velocewest]

http://tinyurl.com/yhr689

What is it that makes you a "very satisfied Miller customer"? What does that photo album show us?

Looks like he sprung for the m20 MAF conversion.

Given that you can go MAP now for cheap, I don't get why people spend a fortune to convert to MAF.

[russc]

Given that you can go MAP now for cheap, I don't get why people spend a fortune to convert to MAF.

Because nobody has productized it yet!

RussC

[Azure]

Hat??? Todd, you holding out on me???

How do you not have one? Everyone else does! Will send it with your S3 upgrade package.

S3 upgrade package? I don't remember seeing that on the website...

[Duke]

S3 upgrade package? I don't remember seeing that on the website...

s3 is the stand alone ECU addition.

So by that logic:

s4 will be s3 stand alone with spark.
s5 will be s4 with Water Injection
s6 will be s5 with Traction Control
s7 will s6 be with a Big Bore TB




I make my self laugh........ya.

[Boru]

Your "logic" is flawed.
The engine needs fuel AND spark to run, therefore, the ECU (Engine Control Unit) manages both.
The SEM ECU in the S3 is a fully programable fuel, spark, etc. devise supplied with a 90+% full tune program.

You make me laugh too... for different reasons.

[Duke]

The SEM ECU in the S3 is a fully programable fuel, spark, etc. devise supplied with a 90+% full tune program.

Cool, I thought that you guys were doing the MS. Nice improvement. I wish my TEC3 came 90% tuned.

The engine needs fuel AND spark to run, therefore, the ECU (Engine Control Unit) manages both.

No shit Sherlock, what about the MS you guys were selling that only controlled fuel and retained the dizzy and the Motronic to run it?


Subtract 1 from all of the "s" designations above then.

I am glad I make you laugh as it seems you got up on the wrong side of the bed.

[T_C_D]

S3 upgrade package? I don't remember seeing that on the website...

s3 is the stand alone ECU addition.

So by that logic:

s4 will be s3 stand alone with spark.
s5 will be s4 with Water Injection
s6 will be s5 with Traction Control
s7 will s6 be with a Big Bore TB

Duke,

Do you pay attention at all? Where do you think I pulled your timing table from? Remember? My red e28! You know the one that has fuel and ignition control!

BTW, our standalone comes with programmable boost control as a standard feature! WI is also available. Peter is currently working on traction control. At the end of the day our system will include all of those features for a few extra dollars where as you spent thousands for a TEC3 and than another few thousand for Racelogic, boost control and WI.

Get a grip dude. Stop trying to one up me and just get on board. Who put your damn car together this last time anyway?

Todd

[russc]

Oh Snap.....


For more clarifiction, SEM(stand-alone engine management) is the MegaSquirt for TCD.

Ill be installing a full TCD SEM MS on my car in the next couple of weeks. Ill be helping them get full closed loop ICV control working.

RussC

[Duke]

So by that logic:

s4 will be s3 stand alone with spark.
s5 will be s4 with Water Injection
s6 will be s5 with Traction Control
s7 will s6 be with a Big Bore TB

The above was ment to be TIC.....you two got it wrong.

Get a grip dude. Stop trying to one up me and just get on board. Who put your damn car together this last time anyway?
Todd

You and Sweeney both need to get a grip and stop being so defensive. Uhhhhhhhh....lets see, paid you (TCD) over $13K for your turbo kit and to fix my engine.........I would say that this is defiantly "onboard". I guarantee that you don't give your other customers this much crap. How about the BIN file and datalog I sent you recently? Are you gonna get back to me on them or not look at them for weeks like the last set I sent you. Or is TCD customer service for those who have not bought a kit yet?

And as far as my “Damn”car, who had to fly out and get it running….me. Who has to still has fix the two or three oil leaks…………..me.

Why don’t you just start over again. My TIC comment did not deserve this shit. And as far as have been told, Sweeney has nothing to do with TCD any more.

[rundatrack]

Who the hell is peter....a silent partner or something?

[T_C_D]

And as far as my “Damn”car, who had to fly out and get it running….me. Who has to still has fix the two or three oil leaks…………..me.

Why don’t you just start over again. My TIC comment did not deserve this shit. And as far as have been told, Sweeney has nothing to do with TCD any more.

The TEC3 is all you. You installed it and you are now tuning it. Your wiring harness was fucked and and you know that is why the car wouldn't run correctly prior to my arrival.

Upon you arrival, I tuned your car for FREE!!!!! It ran perfectly! You wanted me to fly or drive down to KY and tune it again for FREE! Nobody else gets this kind of favorable treatment although many deserve it more than you do.

Had you purchased the TEC 3 from me, had me install it, and paid me to tune then you might have a perfectly running car and proper customer support. Call Henry Lawrence or Vic Sias for all your TEC 3 problems. I already gave you a great timing table (for FREE) and gave you parameters for tuning the fuel (for FREE). I cannot do anymore than that.

Your invoice for this last treatment was probably $2500 less than what it should have been.

So at this point I am just sick of your TIC, inaccurate statements, etc.

I love you in person but you are just a PRICK behind the keyboard.

BTW, Sweeney is still an active participant in the development of new hardware. He manages the development and prouction of all of our hardware that is cast. It would be pretty difficult for me to commute to New England to meet with the pattern maker and foundries. He also flies out here and builds all the prototype parts. The only thing that has changed is how he gets paid!

[T_C_D]

Who the hell is peter....a silent partner or something?

Peter Florance owns SEM and helps design and produces all of our plug/play standalone systems.

Todd

[Duke]

I am not going to argue this on the board. Sorry all of you folks, nothing to see here..........move along.

I love you in person but you are just a PRICK behind the keyboard.

I could not have said it better about you. That’s why we get along so well. We are too much the same.

WI will be operational today.

EDIT -

Call Henry Lawrence or Vic Sias for all your TEC 3 problems

I would not let Henry look at my car much less do any tuning. Vic, he is as hard as you are to look at a file and get back to me.

[rundatrack]

Who the hell is peter....a silent partner or something?

Peter Florance owns SEM and helps design and produces all of our plug/play standalone systems.

Todd

You guys just install and tune them?

[T_C_D]

Who the hell is peter....a silent partner or something?

Peter Florance owns SEM and helps design and produces all of our plug/play standalone systems.

Todd

You guys just install and tune them?

That is putting it simply. Peter is part of our "team". We work with him to develop systems specifically for our applications.

Todd

[rundatrack]

Who the hell is peter....a silent partner or something?

Peter Florance owns SEM and helps design and produces all of our plug/play standalone systems.

Todd

You guys just install and tune them?

That is putting it simply. Peter is part of our "team". We work with him to develop systems specifically for our applications.

Todd

Well congrats on the new addition to your outfit...all the best for the new year.....

[Matt]

Is the S3 kit MS1 hardware with MSnSE firmware, or MS2 hardware with native spark control? Is it 60-2 wheel?

The amount of awesome involved in the approach TCD is taking with this cannot be stated enough. The E28 M30 crowd has it easy, comparatively.

The other old niche car market i'm a part of is the Audi TYP89 platform. The big name in audi standalone work is Javad from 034. The 034 stuff to get fuel and spark control is easily over 2k.. just for the brain. That doesn't include turbo, wiring harness ($500+) and everything else.

The difference is that building and tuning an 034 system is a damn sight easier than an MS system... especially on an I5 audi engine (which is the 034 bread and butter). A lot of people will go through the 034 tuning wizard and get the engine to light off and idle on their first try. That's amazing given that they're doing this on engines that never had EFI injectors to begin with..

The sweet spot of an MS system is getting someone else to tune it for you and build you a wiring harness, all while staying more in the megasquirt price point as opposed to the TEC or 034 price ranges. Tune once, install many is the way to make these things affordable and profitable.

I've got a built MS2 brain and relay box, and the MS2 labeled wiring harness, a billet fuel rail, and 7a tps-enabled throttle, etc for my Audi MS2 install. And it _still_ isn't done.. and probably never will be. Getting a plug-n-play standalone system where someone else has worked out the bugs and provided a good tune for your application is huge.

[T_C_D]

Is the S3 kit MS1 hardware with MSnSE firmware, or MS2 hardware with native spark control? Is it 60-2 wheel?

The amount of awesome involved in the approach TCD is taking with this cannot be stated enough. The E28 M30 crowd has it easy, comparatively.

The other old niche car market i'm a part of is the Audi TYP89 platform. The big name in audi standalone work is Javad from 034. The 034 stuff to get fuel and spark control is easily over 2k.. just for the brain. That doesn't include turbo, wiring harness ($500+) and everything else.

The difference is that building and tuning an 034 system is a damn sight easier than an MS system... especially on an I5 audi engine (which is the 034 bread and butter). A lot of people will go through the 034 tuning wizard and get the engine to light off and idle on their first try. That's amazing given that they're doing this on engines that never had EFI injectors to begin with..

The sweet spot of an MS system is getting someone else to tune it for you and build you a wiring harness, all while staying more in the megasquirt price point as opposed to the TEC or 034 price ranges. Tune once, install many is the way to make these things affordable and profitable.

I've got a built MS2 brain and relay box, and the MS2 labeled wiring harness, a billet fuel rail, and 7a tps-enabled throttle, etc for my Audi MS2 install. And it _still_ isn't done.. and probably never will be. Getting a plug-n-play standalone system where someone else has worked out the bugs and provided a good tune for your application is huge.

Matt,

Here are the specs and a picture.

SPECS:

MS1 V3.0
Proprietary hardware interface to run BMW single coil distributor.
Proprietary hardware interface to run Bosch knock sensor.
Proprietary hardware interface and software to allow electronic. solenoid boost control.
Proprietary hardware interface to run Bosch ICV.
Proprietary hardware interface to run stock tachometer.

Kits include Bosch knock sensor and Ingersoll Rand Solenoid Valve and LC-1 Wideband Kit.

The really big deal is the brand new wiring harness. The harness is totally terminated with labels on each wire.

[Brad D.]

Wow, Todd, that is a really nice setup. The harness looks extremely well designed and made and should work great. While it may have been mentioned somewhere, what is a rough estimate of the cost for the SEM including the harness?Every day I keep thinking I need to sell my turbo 240sx and turbo the 535is and all these sweet products are helping to make up my mind.

[Shawn D.]

The really big deal is the brand new wiring harness. The harness is totally terminated with labels on each wire.

That's really sweet!

[Craig -535i- Seattle]

Stop making things I want to buy!

[Matt]

That pre-cooked wiring harness is fantastic.

Why MS1 instead of MS2? And what firmware? Any custom software on the MS board to go with all of the fancy hardware?

[FirstFives Dictator]

Who the hell is peter....a silent partner or something?

I've been called a lot of things; this would be the first time I've been called 'silent'

Believe me, there are those (SO) that would like to muzzle me.

[FirstFives Dictator]

That pre-cooked wiring harness is fantastic.

Why MS1 instead of MS2? And what firmware? Any custom software on the MS board to go with all of the fancy hardware?

Thanks for nice comments about the harness.

MS2 codebase is not yet sorted out for all MSExtra functions. There is work on this code
The MS2 is better hardware but without the code, it's just a 'rock' to us.

[Azure]

S3 upgrade package? I don't remember seeing that on the website...

s3 is the stand alone ECU addition.

I know what the s3 is, Todd had mentioned it before, I was simply remarking that I hadn't seen it on the website

[russc]

That pre-cooked wiring harness is fantastic.

Why MS1 instead of MS2? And what firmware? Any custom software on the MS board to go with all of the fancy hardware?

Also, I think MS-II doesn't support the 60-2 wheel either(yet).

RussC

[russc]

S3 upgrade package? I don't remember seeing that on the website...

s3 is the stand alone ECU addition.

I know what the s3 is, Todd had mentioned it before, I was simply remarking that I hadn't seen it on the website

Ya, Todd is a little slow on the uptake on the website

RussC

[rundatrack]

regarding megasquirt...

is there a reason why ya using it besides the price. I mean there are a lot of other proven systems that are out there. Kinda have a lot of money invested in a motor...turbo system....fuel system....all the things to get your system..then go cheap on the thing that if it goes incorrectly can blow everything up..

Before ya get ya draws in a bunch...this is not to cut anyone but quite honestly it just doesnt make any sense to me..

I know ya wanna create something but doesnt it just cause my headaches than if you went with a provent foundation and built of of that.

I mean how many hours does it take to get the megasquirt up to speed? If you calcuate your TCO....it may seem to not be as cheap as it seems...