Dinan M5 turbo on the bay!!

[BMWS38]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dinan-BM ... dZViewItem

So I'm the high bidder on this what do you guys think?

[Duke]

I would not touch it with a 1000' pole.

Used pistons, used (nasty) turbo, used everything. Is the manifold cracked? Is the turbo serviceable.......how is the crank?

Without having a competent shop check all the parts, you may end up with a box of junk.

I have learned myself that used unchecked parts could easily cost you more than new parts.

If all of this was $500, then maybe………$1500+, no way.


The seller has been on ebay since Nov 06 and only has two feedbacks. CAUTION.

[turbodan]

I'd buy it. Theres no reason for the manifold to be cracked. I bet the crank is fine too. If the turbo is cooked, replace it. Doo eeet.

[Duke]

I'd buy it. Theres no reason for the manifold to be cracked. I bet the crank is fine too. If the turbo is cooked, replace it. Doo eeet.

I am not saying the manifold is cracked. Without a shop testing and checking the parts, I do not see how they can be sold as in "excellent" condition.

I am not willing to assemble and engine on a "I bet" condition.

[turbodan]

I certainly wouldn't just stab it in there either. I know how nasty used turbo parts can be. But I would buy it.

[johnnye23]

Guys look who the seller is and do your homework. Once bitten twice shy here. Johnny

[Duke]

Guys look who the seller is and do your homework. Once bitten twice shy here. Johnny

OK, you gotta fess up with what you know.

[turbodan]

The guy that ripped me off on a GT2560R back in the day had 5 positive feedbacks. I like to give the benefit of a doubt, because we all start somewhere. That is a lot of money though. I would still buy it, but I would pay through paypal with a credit card.

[vance]

Guys look who the seller is and do your homework. Once bitten twice shy here. Johnny

OK, you gotta fess up with what you know.

If I had to guess I would start here: http://www.mye28.com/viewtopic.php?p=22 ... ht=#228073

Vance

[T_C_D]

The manifold is worth $1500 to the right buyer. Seller is M635csi. I believe he paid $2500 for the parts off ebay last year.

[Nebraska_e28]

Kinda figured that is who was selling the goods. As a rule of thumb, dont bid more than your willing to loose. Hopefully though it can be an honest transaction.

[davidu]

thats alot of money for some used parts, But I want it ,all of it .Then I'll sell it. ha ha

[Martin in BellevueWA]

I cannot imagine anyone on this board would take a chance with dealing with m635csi.

[BMWS38]

I'm a little scared because of this guys low feedback score. Then again I have a low score and I'm an honest guy. Is there anybody down in georgia that could check this stuff out for me before I drop $1500? If not that, I know some non-car people down in Atlanta that could hand deliver the check so at the very least I'm getting parts, and not just giving money away.

If it is as he says though.....what are your thoughts on this setup? Seeing that the turbo is junk, should I rebuild or is there something newer I should go with instead? Also this is gonna have to be a fall/winter project, as I'm going to have to buy some more parts and save some more money.

[DCB535is]

If you're having second thoughts you could always retract your bid. $1500 seems steep just for a used S38 manifold. Is that what these go for these days?

On the M30 front, you see all these Dinan, Cartech, and 745i used turbo kits out there, some in better shape than others. Yes they're cheaper than a TCD kit. But if you go with a TCD kit you get new parts, more than just a manifold & turbo, and support. If you have a problem there's someone there to help weather it's for parts or advice. By the time you're done pieceing together a kit, you could have bought a new complete one.

That's what I think of everytime I see a turbo kit cheap out there and the wheels start turning. Then I calm down and got back to saving for a TCD kit. I'd love to turbo a S38 but S38's don't like me. I've had bad experiences with them. That's why I stuck with a M30. They're cheaper, simpler, and they like me.

[M635CSi]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dinan-BM ... dZViewItem

So I'm the high bidder on this what do you guys think?

Congratulations on being the highest bidder… What I think is that you shouldn’t have posted this on the mye28.com board…

I would not touch it with a 1000' pole.

Duke, in good faith, I think the owner of that turbo engine would have serious reservations about selling it to someone who can’t even get a two valve tractor engine to run for more than a season without breaking down.

Used pistons, used (nasty) turbo, used everything.

The reason the parts are “(nasty)” and “used” is because the engine was actually reliable and held together long enough to get some mileage…

Is the manifold cracked? .

Nope the manifold it fine; a testament to the genius which is Steve Dinan.

Is the turbo serviceable.......

Yup but as it says in the auction, rebuild it anyway. FYI, an ellipsis is a series of three consecutive dots, not seven.

how is the crank?

The crank is fine. Runout and journal specifications are within tolerance. It should be polished though.

Without having a competent shop check all the parts, you may end up with a box of junk.

No, your judgment is, once again, flawed.

I have learned myself that used unchecked parts could easily cost you more than new parts.

When did you learn that?

If all of this was $500, then maybe………$1500+, no way.

The fact that you think those parts fair market value doesn’t represent over $1,500 is more a sign of your knowledge and experience than it is an appraisal of those parts. Again, an ellipsis has three (…) not seven, eight or any other random number of keystrokes that fall from your keyboard.

The seller has been on ebay since Nov 06 and only has two feedbacks. CAUTION.

That point should certainly be taken into account and bids discounted accordingly. Unfortunately, a discounted bid won’t win the auction.

I'd buy it. Theres no reason for the manifold to be cracked. I bet the crank is fine too. If the turbo is cooked, replace it. Doo eeet.

Thank you for that vote of confidence turbodan. Your comment is significant because it comes from someone who has successfully rebuilt their engine and turbocharged their car

I'd buy it. Theres no reason for the manifold to be cracked. I bet the crank is fine too. If the turbo is cooked, replace it. Doo eeet.

… Without a shop testing and checking the parts, I do not see how they can be sold as in "excellent" condition.

They are being sold as in “excellent” condition because they are in “excellent” condition. The fact that you do not know how to check an engine is completely irrelevant to the fact that other people do. And it doesn’t take a shop full of machine tools to do so.

I am not willing to assemble and engine on a "I bet" condition.

How many engines have you assembled?

I certainly wouldn't just stab it in there either. I know how nasty used turbo parts can be. But I would buy it.

Correct. These parts should be fitted together by a competent mechanic, preferably someone with experience in both turbocharging and engine building/machine work on an S38 engine. As was stated in the auction, this isn’t a project for the novice.

Guys look who the seller is and do your homework. Once bitten twice shy here. Johnny

Yes Johnny and that is why the seller didn’t post the parts for sale here. He’d been bitten once by someone on the board who took his money under, what looks in retrospect to be false pretenses. That person continues to retain the money without delivering on his obligation, retracting his statements or issuing an apology. It’s not surprising the seller didn’t make it available to the mye28.com “community”.

Guys look who the seller is and do your homework. Once bitten twice shy here. Johnny

OK, you gotta fess up with what you know.

Well, I know who the seller is and I know the condition of the parts.

Guys look who the seller is and do your homework. Once bitten twice shy here. Johnny

OK, you gotta fess up with what you know.

If I had to guess I would start here: http://www.mye28.com/viewtopic.php?p=22 ... ht=#228073

Vance

Good guess!

The manifold is worth $1500 to the right buyer. Seller is M635csi. I believe he paid $2500 for the parts off ebay last year.

Thank you TCD. For the person who wants the reliability of a cast iron turbo manifold on their S38, this is the only game in town at the moment. At $3,000 it would still be the only way 99% of enthusiasts could get a cast iron turbo manifold for an S38 engine and it still wouldn't be an original Dinan unit.

I cannot imagine anyone on this board would take a chance with dealing with m635csi.

Martin in BellevueWA, that just means you lack intellect in one of many realms. FWIW, I was the one who got screwed on the deal you’re referring to, the other person got money they weren’t entitled to from me. I didn’t want to do business with them and gave them money for their agreement. To this day, they haven’t honored their agreement or returned my money. The fact that your intellect is not only limited to a lack of imagination but also lacks basic understanding regarding the rules of engagement in business is not surprising.

I'm a little scared because of this guys low feedback score. Then again I have a low score and I'm an honest guy. Is there anybody down in georgia that could check this stuff out for me before I drop $1500? If not that, I know some non-car people down in Atlanta that could hand deliver the check so at the very least I'm getting parts, and not just giving money away.

If it is as he says though.....what are your thoughts on this setup? Seeing that the turbo is junk, should I rebuild or is there something newer I should go with instead? Also this is gonna have to be a fall/winter project, as I'm going to have to buy some more parts and save some more money.

The buyer will bid significantly more than $1,500 to win the auction. Beyond that, depending on what you want determines what you do. A hybrid GT35R was slated for the install but that may not fit your goals. Suffice it to say, getting over 500 hp out of that engine is a walk in the park for anyone that knows what they’re doing.

$1,500 for just the manifold would be quite the deal. Unfortunately, that deal isn't available.

I heard a rumor if the Dinan turbo doesn’t sell on ebay then its going on a 745; just a rumor though…

[Duke]

^ ^ ^

[Mark 88/M5 Houston]

[robeyff]

I do believe someone has touched a nerve

He doth protest too much

[M635CSi]

I do believe someone has touched a nerve

He doth protest too much

You just love contention...

[filmy]

On the other hand...
745 turbo setup on the bay - something from a more reputable seller. No affiliation, etc.

(Frank, stop poking the monkey!)

[M635CSi]

On the other hand...
745 turbo setup on the bay - something from a more reputable seller. No affiliation, etc.

(Frank, stop poking the monkey!)

That's cute "filmy" but if you learn a little about BMWs you'll find the "745 turbo setup on the bay -" won't fit the S38 engine.

[filmy]

On the other hand...
745 turbo setup on the bay - something from a more reputable seller. No affiliation, etc.

(Frank, stop poking the monkey!)

That's cute "filmy" but if you learn a little about BMWs you'll find that won't fit the S38 engine.

And while you're blowing me, "M635CSI", you can ask yourself, "Did Filmy actually say that turbo setup would fit an S38 engine?" Everyone else, of course, already knows the answer. Now get to work - you have pointless, over-protesting essays to write! For awhile there, I thought we missed your educational and informative posts. And then it hit me while reading your diatribe to Duke above - "nawwww..."

[M635CSi]

On the other hand...
745 turbo setup on the bay - something from a more reputable seller. No affiliation, etc.

(Frank, stop poking the monkey!)

That's cute "filmy" but if you learn a little about BMWs you'll find that won't fit the S38 engine. [/quote]

And while you're blowing me, "M635CSI", you can ask yourself, "Did Filmy actually say that turbo setup would fit an S38 engine?" Everyone else, of course, already knows the answer.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt between being ignorant and not having the ability to reason. It would have been easier for you to learn the difference between BMW parts than it will be for you to learn rational thought. The point being you are irrational to suggest, and suggest you did, a part for someone's car that you know will not fit their car. It would have been better to accept your technical ignorance than to reveal you're irrational...

Now get to work - you have pointless, over-protesting essays to write! For awhile there, I thought we missed your educational and informative posts.

That's the difference between us; I don't even notice when you're not here.

And then it hit me while reading your diatribe to Duke above - "nawwww..."

At least we can agree you deserve to be hit.

[filmy]

Should I?





Nawwww... You've just made my point for me.

[Martin in BellevueWA]

So everybody but m635 on this board is irrational & lacks imagination? Is it always everyone else, m635?

[filmy]

D'oh!

[Pat]

m635, i dont know you, or anyone else on this board, but you make yourself look more like an idiot with every post

[M635CSi]

So everybody but m635 on this board is irrational & lacks imagination?

You've identified yourself as lacking imagination. Whether you’re also irrational is a separate question; it wouldn't be a surprise to learn that you are both irrational and lacking imagination.

Is it always everyone else, m635?

No but it is quite often the ones who promote themselves as speaking for a group they don't represent.

[SpongeBob]

m635, i dont know you, or anyone else on this board, but you make yourself look more like an idiot with every post

that was funny - based on your comment, does that mean there is a village missing an idiot or an idiot looking for a village?

m635 time to go back to the village or find one.