Just scored 2002 525i Brakes!

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Just scored 2002 525i Brakes!

Post by vai2iant »

Okay I just got two free E39 525i brakes. However, there is about a milimeter of dip from the rim to the actual surface. I dunno if the shop just didnt want to resurface the finish or the thickness got to that "too small" threshold. I wanna take them somewhere and get them refinished and say its for one time used race application if they are too thin. The look good! Its cloudy so pics will be back. I prefer sunlight pics over camera flash. Are these the same size as the 535i big brake kit? If so wil E23 calipers do the job?
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Post by mooseheadm5 »

OK, you need to research big brakes before you even consider doing anything. E39 rotors are not hubcentric to E28s. E23 brakes don't fit at all (I am guessing you transposed the 2 and 3.) Go here and read before you post even one more thing in this thread:
http://www.bmwe34.net/E34main/Upgrade/Brakes.htm

Use realoem.com to look at brake rotor diameters and thicknesses of various cars before you ask any more questions. Good luck. Seriously, though, don't post anything else in this thread until you do the research or you are going to get reamed even more than usual.
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Post by vai2iant »

Well, i searched and there nothing about new style brake so i figured id ask. i KNOW about the big break thread and to use 535i parts solely.

NO info on E39 ONCE SO EVER, so go head ppl, name ahead if it makes you feel bigger. I dont feel any smaller. Quite frankly, its a message board, not bulletin board. Maybe you guys should convert sheesh.
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Post by Kyle in NO »

Nothing about an E39 rotor will work on your car, and resurfacing BMW rotors is fucking stupid. They only cost like $40 each brand new. And two worn rotors are not "brakes".

Also, 535i parts are not what you would use for a big brake upgrade. Do some research, like in the FAQ. Also check out the brake upgrade info under "Brakes".

http://www.m535i.org/officers/ra/frame.html
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vai2iant wrote:...ONCE SO EVER...
:rofl:

Moron.
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Post by C.R. Krieger »

vai2iant wrote:NO info on E39 ONCE SO EVER, so go head ppl, name ahead if it makes you feel bigger. I dont feel any smaller. Quite frankly, its a message board, not bulletin board. Maybe you guys should convert sheesh.
You'll also find no information whatsoever on Jaguar X-Type or Audi A6 or Ford Mustang brakes. Why do you think that is? Does someone actually have to say, "Stay away from those Humber Snipe drum brakes!" for you to understand that they won't work?
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Post by ElGuappo »

WOW!

What a SCORE!

:rofl: :roll: :tsk:
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Post by vai2iant »

ElGuappo wrote:WOW!

What a SCORE!

:rofl: :roll: :tsk:
Oh u got me good| I must be a fucker. That's what I was trying to figure out smartass
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Post by vai2iant »

Kyle in NO wrote:Nothing about an E39 rotor will work on your car, and resurfacing BMW rotors is fucking stupid. They only cost like $40 each brand new. And two worn rotors are not "brakes".

Also, 535i parts are not what you would use for a big brake upgrade. Do some research, like in the FAQ. Also check out the brake upgrade info under "Brakes".

http://www.m535i.org/officers/ra/frame.html
K cool owe u a proper thank u.
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Post by wkohler »

If you had gotten calipers, that would be one thing. Perhaps you could set the rotors on some paper to keep them from flying away.

To try to make those parts (consumables) work on your car will take a lot more effort than it is worth. Honestly, until you get the rest of the car up to snuff, I wouldn't worry about upgrading the brakes. With the right pads, they'll be more than adequate for most driving activity.
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Post by vai2iant »

wkohler wrote:If you had gotten calipers, that would be one thing. Perhaps you could set the rotors on some paper to keep them from flying away.

To try to make those parts (consumables) work on your car will take a lot more effort than it is worth. Honestly, until you get the rest of the car up to snuff, I wouldn't worry about upgrading the brakes. With the right pads, they'll be more than adequate for most driving activity.

Thank you for a simple answer. They were free and thats all I need to know.
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mooseheadm5 wrote:OK, you need to research big brakes before you even consider doing anything. E39 rotors are not hubcentric to E28s. E23 brakes don't fit at all (I am guessing you transposed the 2 and 3.) Go here and read before you post even one more thing in this thread:
http://www.bmwe34.net/E34main/Upgrade/Brakes.htm

Use realoem.com to look at brake rotor diameters and thicknesses of various cars before you ask any more questions. Good luck. Seriously, though, don't post anything else in this thread until you do the research or you are going to get reamed even more than usual.
I just caught the last sentence and IreallyDGAF what my internet reputation is. I still have those who help me and i help those who can use what I can provide. IE like the drive shaft u guys told me to throw away actually worked for someone. Im not attacking you. I'm just stating IDGAF
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Post by mooseheadm5 »

Your "internet reputation" as you call it is going to make people think IDGAF when you post a question asking for help. If that is what you want, so be it, but you are probably going to want a little assistance when doing that timing belt job, because if you make a mistake you will likely bend valves. You should read more and post a little less for a while. You will learn more that way and probably piss off fewer people (who will eventually help you out if you listen to them.)
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Post by Son of a »

vai2iant wrote:
mooseheadm5 wrote:OK, you need to research big brakes before you even consider doing anything. E39 rotors are not hubcentric to E28s. E23 brakes don't fit at all (I am guessing you transposed the 2 and 3.) Go here and read before you post even one more thing in this thread:
http://www.bmwe34.net/E34main/Upgrade/Brakes.htm

Use realoem.com to look at brake rotor diameters and thicknesses of various cars before you ask any more questions. Good luck. Seriously, though, don't post anything else in this thread until you do the research or you are going to get reamed even more than usual.
I just caught the last sentence and IreallyDGAF what my internet reputation is. I still have those who help me and i help those who can use what I can provide. IE like the drive shaft u guys told me to throw away actually worked for someone. Im not attacking you. I'm just stating IDGAF
Well that's your problem right there. This isn't "just the Internet." As corny as you think this might sound, and as corny as it may be, Mye28.com is subtitled "The BMW E28 5-Series Automobile Enthusiast's Community." And its subtitled that for a reason. Many (if not most) forum posters have met at least some of the hundreds of people who post here on a fairly regular basis. And for the most part, e28 BMWs are the only reason these people have met, but it is not the only reason that many people here have become and stayed friends. And part of that is a willingness to actually help people (in the real world). I'm not driving to Toronto next weekend (with my dad no less) to just experience the internet. I'm going to hangout with some of the greatest people on the planet (and you'll never guess how I met them). <----**Sarcasm.**

And as part of this deal many of us give back and are willing to go out of our way to help others here on the board. And we will (and do) suffer fools, when those dumbasses are good-natured, up-front, honest, and willing to take their lumps (like just about any other newb in a tight-knit group).

In case you haven't noticed, you have not been any of these things. That is why people are fed up with you generally. Being a dumbass is one thing, being an ignorant, pain in the ass is another.

Respect is not being obsequious, it is about appreciating and follow some fairly basic rules. That's it. Figure it out. You have managed to not get killed in real life, so apply those skills to the forum, and stop being such a jackass. There are 16 year old kids on this forum who manage it, so can you. You don't need to be perfect, but goddamnit, you need to try, and try harder. Please, stop sucking at life quite so much.

And have a Happy Easter.
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Post by TSMacNeil »

Epic post brother.
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Post by TSMacNeil »

I look at the list of names on this thread...the 'big-hitters"...the frequent posters....

This guy has no idea what he's doing to his BMW ownership future.
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Post by turbodan »

:laugh:

Scored some free worn out rotors? Sweet dude!
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Post by TSMacNeil »

vai2iant wrote:
mooseheadm5 wrote:OK, you need to research big brakes before you even consider doing anything. E39 rotors are not hubcentric to E28s. E23 brakes don't fit at all (I am guessing you transposed the 2 and 3.) Go here and read before you post even one more thing in this thread:
http://www.bmwe34.net/E34main/Upgrade/Brakes.htm

Use realoem.com to look at brake rotor diameters and thicknesses of various cars before you ask any more questions. Good luck. Seriously, though, don't post anything else in this thread until you do the research or you are going to get reamed even more than usual.
I just caught the last sentence and IreallyDGAF what my internet reputation is. I still have those who help me and i help those who can use what I can provide. IE like the drive shaft u guys told me to throw away actually worked for someone. Im not attacking you. I'm just stating IDGAF
I'd just like to say that Moosehead has been exceedingly generous with his advice. I'm not clear about your equating his advice to you, with your advice or help to somebody about half-shafts..

We get that you now DGAF...

Here's a news clip: Neither do we....(N.D.W).

I wonder how long it will take for you to be banned from this site.
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Post by Kyle in NO »

IDGAF? Truly awesome to know You Do Get Ass Fucked. Sounds more like a personal issue though.
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Post by 87royal »

I'm curious, why do you think you need big brakes to stop your slow-ass stock car?
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Post by itsbrokeagain »

C.R. Krieger wrote: Stay away from those Humber Snipe drum brakes!
I wish you would've said this before I bought some...I was going to do the latest in 60's era braking on my car...mechanical drum brakes on the front..just like my dad's mustang :oops:
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Post by Kyle in NO »

I wanna take them somewhere and get them refinished and say its for one time used race application if they are too thin.
Complete FAIL.
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Post by Shawn D. »

Kyle in NO wrote:
I wanna take them somewhere and get them refinished and say its for one time used race application if they are too thin.
Complete FAIL.
Yeah, nothing like too-thin overheating brakes to help you when used in a "race application."
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Post by Scottinva »

Are you shitting me dude, buy new rotors. If they have a lip, they are prob under spec, and shouldn't be turned.
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Post by C.R. Krieger »

itsbrokeagain wrote:
C.R. Krieger wrote: Stay away from those Humber Snipe drum brakes!
I wish you would've said this before I bought some...I was going to do the latest in 60's era braking on my car...mechanical drum brakes on the front..just like my dad's mustang :oops:
Your dad's Mustang did NOT have mechanical drum brakes! It may have had unassisted hydraulic drum brakes, but they were most assuredly not mechanical.

Still, for the last appearance of mechanical brakes on a mass produced American car, you would look to Ford, which had them through the late 1930s.

The other thing I thought I'd mention in this thread is that you guys really ought to stop beating up on the now-suspended OP. It's hardly fair when he can neither answer nor apologize (assuming he would).
Edit:
Forget that green shit. He's hopeless and worthless.
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Post by bm0p700f »

I must be getting old, IDGAF, I'm lost. However I agree with the sentiments of Son of a. Well put.
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Post by no2tracks »

What did you do for your e28...

Ah got some new upgraded break cables...

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Post by tschultz »

Man this throwdown is worse than the flaming people did to Zach716 when he first joined!

:deadhorse:
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Post by C.R. Krieger »

tschultz wrote:Man this throwdown is worse than the flaming people did to Zach716 when he first joined!

:deadhorse:
Zach smartened up, got with the program, didn't get banned and didn't run off to other forums to continue whining about us.
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Post by turbodan »

C.R. Krieger wrote:Zach smartened up, got with the program
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