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kendogg1
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... RK:MEWA:IT

Will I need any spacers to make these fit under my car?
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[QUOTE="kendogg"]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... RK:MEWA:IT

Will I need any spacers to make these fit under my car?[/QUOTE]

Congratulations on the win! It looks like you won more than just the rim; looks like you won the whole wheel. ;)

Seriously, though, those wheels will work fine on your car as long as you have hubcentric rings. I had those exact wheels and tires on my first 528e. With the hubcentric rings -- Tire Rack had them back then as part number A670 -- you won't have to worry about the vibration that you would get otherwise.

The problem with that setup is the tires. Those tires -- stock for the E39 -- are too tall for the E28. I ran them, and they were okay, but they look like balloons, and they're not the correct circumference for your car. What you want is something like a 225/55-15 or a 205/60-15. The 225/60-15 is really too tall.

HTH,
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[QUOTE="kendogg"]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... RK:MEWA:IT

Will I need any spacers to make these fit under my car?[/QUOTE]

Hyperlink these url's guys, it's so easy. Put the url between
That's all there is to it. :D



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Post by Peete »

Ah, good to know about the tire size. I just scored the exact same wheels locally for $60. They need tires though.
FWIW, I was told by a dealership parts guy who is very up to speed on the classic BMWs that the offset is correct for the e28.
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[QUOTE="Peete"]Ah, good to know about the tire size. I just scored the exact same wheels locally for $60. They need tires though.
FWIW, I was told by a dealership parts guy who is very up to speed on the classic BMWs that the offset is correct for the e28.[/QUOTE]

Yes, the offset is perfect. That's a 15x7 wheel with an ET20 offset. Same exact size and offset of the fugly E34 bottlecaps I have on my car right now. The only thing you need is the hubcentric rings to put on the hub before you put the wheel on. That way, the hub bore of the wheel will be the same diameter as the outer diameter of the hub on the car.

Enjoy the wheels! They look great on an E28!
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The 225/60-15 is really too tall.


Actually I'm using 225/60/15 snow tires on my lowered e28 right now -- I have absolutely no problems with rubbing or anything.
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Actually I'm using 225/60/15 snow tires on my lowered e28 right now -- I have absolutely no problems with rubbing or anything.
I never said they would rub. I just said they were too tall.

Original tire size for the 528e is 195/70-14. Using Shawndy's wheel and tire spreadsheet, you see that, for a 15" wheel and a 225mm wide tire, you want to run a 225/55-15. If you want to run a narrower tire, you can run a 205/60-15.

The 225/60-15 will fit fine. I had that tire -- with the same exact wheels as the original poster just bought -- on my original 528e, and it never rubbed or anything. But, it was obvious the tire was too tall, and let's not even start talking about what it does to the ABS system.
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[QUOTE="Peete"]Ah, good to know about the tire size. I just scored the exact same wheels locally for $60. They need tires though.
FWIW, I was told by a dealership parts guy who is very up to speed on the classic BMWs that the offset is correct for the e28.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="Shifty"]Yes, the offset is perfect. That's a 15x7 wheel with an ET20 offset. Same exact size and offset of the fugly E34 bottlecaps I have on my car right now. The only thing you need is the hubcentric rings to put on the hub before you put the wheel on. That way, the hub bore of the wheel will be the same diameter as the outer diameter of the hub on the car.

Enjoy the wheels! They look great on an E28![/QUOTE]

Hmmm, I was told the hub bore is the same. And the wife just drove it to work. I think I'll slap the new wheels on one side of the car to see how they look/fit when she gets home.
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The hub bore is, without a doubt, no question about it, DIFFERENT.

The hub bore on ALL E39s is larger than pretty much every other BMW on the face of the earth. It's weird that BMW elected to do that on the E39, but perhaps they realized the error of their ways and changed back. Who knows.

But, I promise you the hub bore is different. Whoever told you it's the same was either lying or just didn't know.

The wheels will fit just fine on the car. You can't tell the hub bore is different when you look at them on the car. But, when you mount the wheels, they won't sit perfectly on the hub. Instead of being hubcentric, they'll be lugcentric. Bad. Also, when you drive the car, you'll get a vibration from the wheels that you can't make go away, no matter how many times they're balanced.

Trust me when I say that you can save yourself a lot of heartache by spending $4 apiece on the hubcentric rings. I'm not sure if Tire Rack still has them -- last I heard they didn't unless you talked to the right person -- but the part number is A670. It wouldn't hurt to call and find out.

HTH,
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[QUOTE="Shifty"]The hub bore is, without a doubt, no question about it, DIFFERENT.

The hub bore on ALL E39s is larger than pretty much every other BMW on the face of the earth. It's weird that BMW elected to do that on the E39, but perhaps they realized the error of their ways and changed back. Who knows.

But, I promise you the hub bore is different. Whoever told you it's the same was either lying or just didn't know.

The wheels will fit just fine on the car. You can't tell the hub bore is different when you look at them on the car. But, when you mount the wheels, they won't sit perfectly on the hub. Instead of being hubcentric, they'll be lugcentric. Bad. Also, when you drive the car, you'll get a vibration from the wheels that you can't make go away, no matter how many times they're balanced.

Trust me when I say that you can save yourself a lot of heartache by spending $4 apiece on the hubcentric rings. I'm not sure if Tire Rack still has them -- last I heard they didn't unless you talked to the right person -- but the part number is A670. It wouldn't hurt to call and find out.

HTH,[/QUOTE]

The eBay auction says they were on a '96 528i, there was no '96 e39, in fact there was no '96 model year 5-series at all, so it'd have to be a late production e34 I'd say, but was there a e34 528i? Don't know. :?
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No, there was no E34 528i. But, I promise you those are NOT original wheels from an E34. They are definitely original E39 wheels. No other BMW came with those, and the E39 had both 16x7 ET20 and 15x7 ET20 versions of those wheels.

Even if they WERE on an E34, they would still need hubcentric rings.
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Post by kendogg1 »

OK, so, I need hub-centric rings, no biggie. I was thinkin about putting on like a 225-55-15, I think it was, something close to that at least, to keep my speedo correct. Would a 225 rub at all?
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Post by Peete »

Shifty you are most definitely right about the hub bore. I put the wheels on one side of the car to see how it looks. There was some slop in the hub bore. But the wheels look really good on the car. If I can just figure out how to post a picture...
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[QUOTE="kendogg"]OK, so, I need hub-centric rings, no biggie. I was thinkin about putting on like a 225-55-15, I think it was, something close to that at least, to keep my speedo correct. Would a 225 rub at all?[/QUOTE]

This wheel, LIGHT ALLOY RIM[TAB]7JX15 ET:20[TAB]36111179774 was a cross spoke just like yours fitted to e34 525i's through December 1995. Check the back of the wheel for the BMW part number, and if it's different post it here and I'll look it up. :)
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[QUOTE="kendogg"]OK, so, I need hub-centric rings, no biggie. I was thinkin about putting on like a 225-55-15, I think it was, something close to that at least, to keep my speedo correct. Would a 225 rub at all?[/QUOTE]

A 225/55-15 will be fine. No rubbing anywhere with that width and offset. I have 205/60-15s on my wheel with the same size and offset as yours and am happy with them.
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[QUOTE="fastpat"]This wheel, LIGHT ALLOY RIM[TAB]7JX15 ET:20[TAB]36111179774 was a cross spoke just like yours fitted to e34 525i's through December 1995. Check the back of the wheel for the BMW part number, and if it's different post it here and I'll look it up. :) [/QUOTE]

Pat,

I think you're talking about the standard 15x7 E34 basketweave that many guys are running. The wheel that Kendogg is talking about is the Style 29 wheel from the E39. I promise you it was an E39-only wheel. Both wheels are 15x7 ET20, but the Style 29 from the E39 has the E39 hub bore while the Style ?? (I think it's 5, but my ETK is working so I can't check it to be sure) from the E34 has the smaller hub bore of the E28, E34, etc.

Here are some pics for you and anyone else that needs them. First pic is my old Euro with the E34 basketweave I'm referring to. Next two pics are pics of my old 528e with the Style 29 E39 wheel -- and too-tall-for-an-E28-but-stock-on-an-E39 225/60-15 tires. The last pictures are the hubcentric rings I got from Tire Rack.

Enjoy. . .

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Post by Peete »

Shifty, thanks for the education. I ordered the rings from Tire Rack yesterday. Now if only I could afford new tires right now. !@#$
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