T-Bones Run in the Family... (large pics)

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Post by Alfonso Bedoya »

Sorry to hear that Sherman, cars can be replaced people can't, the cup is more than half full man. Still sad to see a nice old tourings get slammed. I'm sure you'll make a mint on parting it tho! :rofl:
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Post by johnnye23 »

Sherman I am glad to read your wife is okay ! What an impact ,so glad it was not on the drivers side. I too would like to see pictures of the passenger door on the inside. I am getting ready to do a 5 speed swap on my Touring so if you need any input shoot me a pm.
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Glad to hear your wife is okay - these cars are tanks, thank goodness for that. Even with little-to-no injury, getting -boned by a moron is a scary experience.
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Glad to hear she is ok! I wish someone would do that to my truck! :?
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Post by Shawn D. »

Glad to know your wife is OK. Sorry to see how the E34 ended up.
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Post by rlomba8204 »

Sherman,
Glad to here the wife is OK. The cars are frustrating when they get banged up, but as others have said they can be repaired / replaced.

And congrats on the new grandchildren!
R-
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Sherman,

That was a nice looking touring, glad to hear your wife is okay. Mark
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Post by carnutdallas »

Dang Sherm, Sorry to see that! I am so glad your wife is OK. I vote for M50 Swap!
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Thanks again for all the love, I really feel it. ;)

DJ - That was quite funny, good medicine!


rlomba8204 wrote:...And congrats on the new grandchildren!
R-
9 lb 4 oz big boy
My namesake, "III" (the 3rd)
Needless to say we are again proud grandparents.
This makes 6 on the ground with one more still in the oven.
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Post by Adam W in MN »

Glad to hear of the new grandchild and healthy size! Glad your wife's ok but sorry to hear about the Touring.

That is quite a hit and I'm sure this thread will continue as you had down the path of fighting the insurance company for what their idiot insured did to you. Best of luck.
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Dad, big sis (20 months), and Harry, 1 hour after home birth.
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1st 5er wrote:Thanks again for all the love, I really feel it. ;)

DJ - That was quite funny, good medicine!


rlomba8204 wrote:...And congrats on the new grandchildren!
R-
9 lb 4 oz big boy
My namesake, "III" (the 3rd)
Needless to say we are again proud grandparents.
This makes 6 on the ground with one more still in the oven.
Sherman--
I just found this thread...Wow. I'm at work, so the pics don't come through. Will check them when i get to the house .
Wonderful that J is unhurt.

What can these people be thinking when they drivelike this?

Congratulations on the newest Grandchild. The next one puts you one up me.

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Post by Mike W. »

Sherman, glad your wife seems to be ok, but that was a hard hit and I bet she will be hurting soon if she isn't yet, soft tissue damage isn't all BS, it's just hard to track. Get her to a doc just for a check up and to document things. Really, it can take a little while for things to come out.
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Mike W. wrote: Get her to a doc just for a check up and to document things.
This has been done.


Here's the interior door shots.
Safeco's adjuster came by earlier this morning.
I didn't get a copy of his estimate, but he said it was over $8,000.
Now to get with their 'total loss' dept to get a fair valuation, for us of course.
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Post by Tammer in Philly »

All things considered, the passenger zone was protected fairly well. I guess making sure a passenger's head is next to the B-pillar instead of the window is a good call.

Thanks for the images. Frightening.

-tammer
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After taking and looking at those pics,
I'm wondering what the possibility is that the 'A' pillar has some damage.
Also realized that the glovebox and possibly dash has been damaged as well.

Now that the adjuster has done the initial estimate,
if it warms up this weekend and stays dry,
I'll be able to get out there and do a bit deeper investigation.
Any comments as for what else to look for would be appreciated.

In the mean time, if I determine it's salvageable,
I'll be needing that rear door, in black, and a rear tail light assembly. Anybody?
I have a friend who has a black E34 sedan that I'm hoping to secure the fender, front door, and rear bumper from.
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Post by mooseheadm5 »

Todd was parting a wagon a while back. He may have put some parts on the shelf that could help.
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:shock:
Got out today and took a little closer look;
1st 5er wrote:The door is 'V' shaped at the bottom of the window opening and is pushed in at least 3 inches.
This indentation is 8 inches.

1st 5er wrote:I'm wondering what the possibility is that the 'A' pillar has some damage.
The 'A' pillar is indeed tweaked a bit, my guess the upper hinge is turned inward a good 30°.
Won't be able to see the bottom hinge without opening the door.
If weather allows I'll see about doing that tomorrow and getting some better shots.
This will also allow a full inspection of the 'B' pillar damage.
Any thoughts on repair-ability of this type of structural damage?
Seeing it pushes me towards the not-gonna-repair decision.
And unless the "salvage buyback" price is really low and/or the "total loss" payoff is really high I think a part-out may be out of the question too.



If major parts, or the whole car, are wanted, "speak now or forever hold your peace".
Tammer in Philly wrote:the map light above the rearview mirror
mooseheadm5 wrote:Rocker covers and
trim from the door bottoms,
washer nozzles,
driver seat bottom (mine has a split) or just the leather, and
various trim from the hatch area.
You'll need to either post here or PM offers, w/o shipping, to sway me towards the part-out option.


Thanks for the "kind words" gestures, this from my wife.
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Post by vance »

Wow Sherman, I just saw this! So glad your wife is ok. That is one hard lick. Congrats on the new addition also buddy.


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Well guys, I just got a call from Safeco's Total Loss Adjuster that was assigned to our claim.
Two bits of good news;
1 - Their initial valuation and payout met my expectations, and a check is in the mail...
2 - ...minus the salvage buy back of $441.90.
So I'll be keeping the car.

Next step is to have a friend come and look at it to see what the possibility is of restoring the 'a' and 'b' pillar damage.

Get those parts orders in, just in case.
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Save the Touring!

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Save the Touring! :banana:
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funfunfer wrote:Save the Touring! :banana:
I'm going to have Todd, the paint guy next to Memo's shop, have a look at it.
We'll see.
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Post by MShimon »

Somehow I missed this thread even with three pages. I'm super glad to see that your wife is not hurt and that she was hit on the passengers side. It sure looks like quite a t-bone. I hope you do keep the vehicle and bring it back to life to hopefully never have to save someone again. Good luck.

BTW, if you do decide to part it out I might like to purchase your best condition basketweave.
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Post by Greg E34 »

Wow! So sorry Sherman. If you're gonna keep her, I've got some inner taillights for ya. If you part her, dibs on the rear glass. I've probably got a few more things squirreled away I'd be happy to send your way...
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Post by dragonbar »

wow, just wow! so glad the wife is ok. i'm with sean, was waiting for the for sale sign to go in the window too lol.

ya know the ole bronzit girl in the back yard would look alot better with those style 5's that with the 17's...just a thought.

oh, and tell your kids to bottle whatever it is they are drinking and bring it to me and the wife. seriously you are about to run out of room for kids at your place. next thing you know i'm going to drive up and see grandkids hanging on a clothesline in the back yard! congrats on the new one!
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dragonbar wrote:...
You're back! :D



Parts request are being noted...
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Post by PorscheDude »

Sorry to see this, glad no one was hurt.
I have some touring tail lights if you need them.
I can also get you a good rear door, but it is blue.

If you decide to part it, I could use both drivers side door panels.
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1st 5er wrote:Well guys, I just got a call from Safeco's Total Loss Adjuster that was assigned to our claim.
Two bits of good news;
1 - Their initial valuation and payout met my expectations, and a check is in the mail...
2 - ...minus the salvage buy back of $441.90.
So I'll be keeping the car.

Next step is to have a friend come and look at it to see what the possibility is of restoring the 'a' and 'b' pillar damage.

Get those parts orders in, just in case.
Update...

Sorry for the delay, but with this and that, it's been a bit crazy in my world.
Got the settlement check, $4,658.10, which went towards the replacement and our grass payment.

The guy who was considering buying it "as is" has withdrawn his offer,
as it was estimated to be about $1,000.00 to put the a and b pillars back straight and replace and refinish the rear quarter panel.
We have a source for all the replacement parts, free, well free of cash payment that is.
So, it won't become a ///M5 Touring clone after all.

As far as parting it out, you can go back and see what's been called dibs on already and go from there.
I think that the entire interior has been spoken for, but that too is up in the air.

I'll post a 'For Sale / Wanted - Parts' thread in a few weeks, with a link here.
I'll need to get both this car's replacement and my eta replacement on the road before I start tearing into this one.
Winters here in the upper coastal part of south Texas don't always cooperate when outside activities are planned
so it'll be hit or miss as to a deadline for that happening, I'm hoping they'll be completed within the next two weeks.
We'll see...
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Post by djazz »

Good thing you had that spare sitting out back. :D
Hope you haven't stripped it too much and that it doesn't require much to get it back on the road.

dj

p.s. I think I still have a few parts out in the garage. Specifically, I saw a rear shelf up high that I believe has a shade. If so, I save it for you. William already has one on his eta.
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djazz wrote:Good thing you had that spare sitting out back. :D
Hope you haven't stripped it too much and that it doesn't require much to get it back on the road.

dj

p.s. I think I still have a few parts out in the garage. Specifically, I saw a rear shelf up high that I believe has a shade. If so, I save it for you. William already has one on his eta.
Good deal on the rear shelf, thanks.

We took the seats out of Black Beauty but I have another set I'm going to put in her.
Everything else is as she was when she left your place.
Everything needed mechanically, non drive train related, I should be able to pull off the eta.
I'll only have to source the door and fender, as I have no schwarz ones lying around.

Shouldn't take more than a good weathered weekend to get her road ready.

If a good excuse comes for getting up that way and time allows, I'll give you a shout.
I have talked about doing a Spring LSB&F thing up that way in April. We'll see... as that's somewhat close to our annual run to V@V, now just V, and the second running of the RTT.

P.S.
Does the BB ('86 schwarz 535) have a short shifter installed?
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