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What's the speed that gets you in "big trouble" in GTA these days?Mark in Toronto wrote:Total distance is just under 300 km, so 2 hours at an average speed of 130 km/hr.Ted in T.O. wrote:3 1/2 hours door to door from Port Huron Ali. Its all highway.alijonny wrote:good point. I will take the northern route.
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Big trouble anywhere in Ontario is 50 km/hr over the posted speed limit.Jeremy wrote:What's the speed that gets you in "big trouble" in GTA these days?Mark in Toronto wrote:Total distance is just under 300 km, so 2 hours at an average speed of 130 km/hr.Ted in T.O. wrote:3 1/2 hours door to door from Port Huron Ali. Its all highway.alijonny wrote:good point. I will take the northern route.
Penalties for street racing, stunt driving and driving 50 km/h or over the speed limit
Pre-conviction – Immediate 7-day licence suspension and 7-day vehicle impoundment
Upon conviction - $2,000 to $10,000 fine, 6 demerit points, up to 6 months jail, up to 2 years licence suspension for a first conviction
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Why????? Anything under 120 km/hr and you might as well be going backwards.Eddie in TO wrote:Stay below 120km/h on the 402 and 401.
I just did a round trip to Windsor on the 401 this past weekend and averaged 130 - 140 km/hr. Sure I saw a few black and whites, all of which were out in the open, nothing hidden.
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Travelers who don't frequent these highways will not know the typical OPP hiding spots. I've seen some clever locations this past year alone.Mark in Toronto wrote:Why?????Eddie in TO wrote:Stay below 120km/h on the 402 and 401.
I just did a round trip to Windsor on the 401 this past weekend and averaged 130 - 140 km/hr.
They sometimes sit in the u-turn openings along the center of the highway 402, behind center pillars under an overpass, and standing behind an overpass sign with a laser (and a few cruisers down the road waiting). The last one behind the sign is slick as you only see a partial shoulder and head profile from a distance.
I've also seen them along the side of the road on an on-ramp…typically sitting right at the very top/start of the ramp.
OPP has a tendency of pulling drivers speeding at 120km/h and higher, therefore I suggest they travel below that speed unless they're feeling lucky.
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Correct, no radar/laser detection devises are to be used in Ontario. I believe there may be some Provinces that still allow radar/laser detectors.Jeremy wrote:No speed cameras, but IIRC, use of radar/ladar detection devices is universally prohibited in Canada.alijonny wrote:do they radar the same as in the U.S. or do they use speed cameras?
I've witnessed an OPP officer holding what appeared to be a radar detector device (also had the wires tangling) at the side of the highway 401 west of 402 many years ago. The vehicle he pulled over had Ohio plates.
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Eddie,Eddie in TO wrote:OPP has a tendency of pulling drivers speeding at 120km/h and higher, therefore I suggest they travel below that speed unless they're feeling lucky.Mark in Toronto wrote:Why?????Eddie in TO wrote:Stay below 120km/h on the 402 and 401.
I just did a round trip to Windsor on the 401 this past weekend and averaged 130 - 140 km/hr.
Luck has nothing to do with it. Simply apply common sense and wind speeds over 120 are fine.
Now, if you are talking about a force that brings good fortune or adversity, then this game depends on luck.
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Other than the toll you'll encounter at the border, there's a toll highway called the '407ETR'. The EZpass/ipass will not work on that toll highway. They have signs showing that out-of-towners will be billed.alijonny wrote:hmmm. ok. and for tolls, will ezpass/ipass work? Are CB radios legit?
Unless you're driving a commercial vehicle, the use of CB radios are not permitted. AFAIK, you can have a CB radio in your car...but law enforcement just can't see you using it.
Hand held wireless devices such as cell phones, iPods, etc. are also not permitted.
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Great, I love places anal about that.Eddie in TO wrote:Other than the toll you'll encounter at the border, there's a toll highway called the '407ETR'. The EZpass/ipass will not work on that toll highway. They have signs showing that out-of-towners will be billed.alijonny wrote:hmmm. ok. and for tolls, will ezpass/ipass work? Are CB radios legit?
Unless you're driving a commercial vehicle, the use of CB radios are not permitted. AFAIK, you can have a CB radio in your car...but law enforcement just can't see you using it.
Hand held wireless devices such as cell phones, iPods, etc. are also not permitted.
Please tell me GPS units stuck to your windshield and blueteeth are kosher?
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That's why it's a good idea to keep an old, out of date unit in the car. Simply hand it over if pulled over.Eddie in TO wrote:Correct, no radar/laser detection devises are to be used in Ontario. I believe there may be some Provinces that still allow radar/laser detectors.Jeremy wrote:No speed cameras, but IIRC, use of radar/ladar detection devices is universally prohibited in Canada.alijonny wrote:do they radar the same as in the U.S. or do they use speed cameras?
I've witnessed an OPP officer holding what appeared to be a radar detector device (also had the wires tangling) at the side of the highway 401 west of 402 many years ago. The vehicle he pulled over had Ohio plates.
Yea from Iowa. You want to know how far it is or are you suggesting I can't make it in the time I said? =)Ted in T.O. wrote:Where are you driving from Matt? Iowa? Check your mileage.
its < 800 miles and since I'll be doing most of it over night if it takes me more than 11 hours of driving I'd be surprised. Will probably only stop to sleep for a couple hours at the most.
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Wait, this isn't true at all. There is no requirement about a commercial vehicle to use a CB radio. They are good to go for everyone. Hense the name citizens band...Eddie in TO wrote:Other than the toll you'll encounter at the border, there's a toll highway called the '407ETR'. The EZpass/ipass will not work on that toll highway. They have signs showing that out-of-towners will be billed.alijonny wrote:hmmm. ok. and for tolls, will ezpass/ipass work? Are CB radios legit?
Unless you're driving a commercial vehicle, the use of CB radios are not permitted. AFAIK, you can have a CB radio in your car...but law enforcement just can't see you using it.
Hand held wireless devices such as cell phones, iPods, etc. are also not permitted.
Now the only weird one is our wireless law (no cell phone unless hands free while driving), and this law includes CB radios (kind of), but that's for everyone including commercial vehicles. I doubt the police would enforce it for a wired CB though. Its a really grey area as its wired directly into your car.
So just to be clear, in regards to ipods, mp3 players and cell phones, its not the device that's banned, its the use of wireless devices while driving. Lots of states have that law though.
And in regards to the 120km limit, I have driven these highways from Sarina to Toronto thousands of times. If you are going 120 you are going too slow. Especially from London to Kitchener Waterloo area. There is NOTHING there. Traffic generally moves at 130 and sometimes higher.Mark in Toronto wrote:Eddie,Eddie in TO wrote:OPP has a tendency of pulling drivers speeding at 120km/h and higher, therefore I suggest they travel below that speed unless they're feeling lucky.Mark in Toronto wrote:Why?????Eddie in TO wrote:Stay below 120km/h on the 402 and 401.
I just did a round trip to Windsor on the 401 this past weekend and averaged 130 - 140 km/hr.
Luck has nothing to do with it. Simply apply common sense and wind speeds over 120 are fine.
Now, if you are talking about a force that brings good fortune or adversity, then this game depends on luck.
My suggestion is go with the flow of traffic. It generally moves fast enough.
Enough of this FUD...
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Pete,KillerPM wrote:Wait, this isn't true at all. There is no requirement about a commercial vehicle to use a CB radio. They are good to go for everyone. Hense the name citizens band...Eddie in TO wrote:Other than the toll you'll encounter at the border, there's a toll highway called the '407ETR'. The EZpass/ipass will not work on that toll highway. They have signs showing that out-of-towners will be billed.alijonny wrote:hmmm. ok. and for tolls, will ezpass/ipass work? Are CB radios legit?
Unless you're driving a commercial vehicle, the use of CB radios are not permitted. AFAIK, you can have a CB radio in your car...but law enforcement just can't see you using it.
Hand held wireless devices such as cell phones, iPods, etc. are also not permitted.
Now the only weird one is our wireless law (no cell phone unless hands free while driving), and this law includes CB radios (kind of), but that's for everyone including commercial vehicles. I doubt the police would enforce it for a wired CB though. Its a really grey area as its wired directly into your car.
So just to be clear, in regards to ipods, mp3 players and cell phones, its not the device that's banned, its the use of wireless devices while driving. Lots of states have that law though.
Here's how the law currently stands with respect to CB's:
Truck drivers who use CB radios to communicate are able to continue to use those radios for at least another three years, despite the new distracted driving legislation.
The legislation, which came into effect in October, bans
talking, texting or using an MP3 player or GPS unit while driving. As of Monday, violators face $155 tickets.
Stephen Conners, a dispatcher with Glenn Windrem Trucking on Whittington Dr. in Lindsay, said the legislation allows professional truck drivers use of CB sets.
After about three years, he said, those sets will be replaced by hands-free CB sets.
http://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/ ... chive=true
And, only two more days before the Ted Festival begins. Can't wait!
Ahh, so they gave commercial vehicles an exemption of the hands free law on CBs..Mark in Toronto wrote:Pete,KillerPM wrote:Wait, this isn't true at all. There is no requirement about a commercial vehicle to use a CB radio. They are good to go for everyone. Hense the name citizens band...Eddie in TO wrote:Other than the toll you'll encounter at the border, there's a toll highway called the '407ETR'. The EZpass/ipass will not work on that toll highway. They have signs showing that out-of-towners will be billed.alijonny wrote:hmmm. ok. and for tolls, will ezpass/ipass work? Are CB radios legit?
Unless you're driving a commercial vehicle, the use of CB radios are not permitted. AFAIK, you can have a CB radio in your car...but law enforcement just can't see you using it.
Hand held wireless devices such as cell phones, iPods, etc. are also not permitted.
Now the only weird one is our wireless law (no cell phone unless hands free while driving), and this law includes CB radios (kind of), but that's for everyone including commercial vehicles. I doubt the police would enforce it for a wired CB though. Its a really grey area as its wired directly into your car.
So just to be clear, in regards to ipods, mp3 players and cell phones, its not the device that's banned, its the use of wireless devices while driving. Lots of states have that law though.
Here's how the law currently stands with respect to CB's:
Truck drivers who use CB radios to communicate are able to continue to use those radios for at least another three years, despite the new distracted driving legislation.
The legislation, which came into effect in October, bans
talking, texting or using an MP3 player or GPS unit while driving. As of Monday, violators face $155 tickets.
Stephen Conners, a dispatcher with Glenn Windrem Trucking on Whittington Dr. in Lindsay, said the legislation allows professional truck drivers use of CB sets.
After about three years, he said, those sets will be replaced by hands-free CB sets.
http://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/ ... chive=true
And, only two more days before the Ted Festival begins. Can't wait!
I wouldn't worry too much about the hands free law... Not a whole lot of people seem to get charged with it. People do, just lot a lot.
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Thanks Eddie! I'm dying with anticipation. Last year was the first year I missed the Ted Festival due to a cottage/diving trip.Eddie in TO wrote:Great to see you're jumping into Tedfest early this year!Mark in Toronto wrote: And, only two more days before the Ted Festival begins. Can't wait!
And, I heard there was a raffle at last year's event. Cool. Looking forward to picking up some prizes. Hopefully the proceeds from the raffle will be going to a good charity.