Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Nov 11, 2022 1:10 PM
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Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Nov 11, 2022 10:23 PM
Open question: Who would want a Mini-Box Upgrade Kit?
No LEDs, just two blade fuse holders. Pic of the prototype:
Mini box by Holy Grail Labs, on Flickr
No LEDs, just two blade fuse holders. Pic of the prototype:
Mini box by Holy Grail Labs, on FlickrRe: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Nov 12, 2022 1:21 AM
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Nov 12, 2022 1:43 AM
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Nov 12, 2022 3:54 AM
I would! If both fuse boxes are upgraded, this would obviate the need to carry different types of spares.Galahad wrote: Nov 11, 2022 10:23 PM Open question: Who would want a Mini-Box Upgrade Kit?
No LEDs, just two blade fuse holders.
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Nov 12, 2022 8:23 PM
In for mini as well.
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Nov 12, 2022 8:58 PM
I guess it depends on the price! But I'd be in for one for the same reason as Shawn describes.Galahad wrote: Nov 11, 2022 10:23 PM Open question: Who would want a Mini-Box Upgrade Kit?
No LEDs, just two blade fuse holders. Pic of the prototype:
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Nov 21, 2022 11:51 PM
I would like one
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Nov 28, 2022 11:21 AM
Short update on manufacturing:
All the first round of parts arrived, unfortunately I got part-way through assembly and realized the wires I specced (18ga) wouldn't fit the displayport connectors so I had to design and order adapter boards (which will make my life easier in the long run at least). I'm expecting those to arrive some time this week, hopefully everything goes smoothly and I'll be able to start shipping the backlog this weekend.
All the first round of parts arrived, unfortunately I got part-way through assembly and realized the wires I specced (18ga) wouldn't fit the displayport connectors so I had to design and order adapter boards (which will make my life easier in the long run at least). I'm expecting those to arrive some time this week, hopefully everything goes smoothly and I'll be able to start shipping the backlog this weekend.
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Dec 08, 2022 9:44 PM
Quick update: I have the parts to temporarily fix the robot but I am going to be out of town this weekend for a family funeral and next week is finals week. I will have current orders shipped by the end of the calendar year. If you're looking to order between now and January, both Angry Ass (USA) and Ivo Christov (e28.nl, EU) have a limited number in stock.
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Dec 11, 2022 9:17 PM
Better late than sorry, bought mine a looong time ago, and only just got around to install it.
Small comment, i'd bought another fusebox, and did the "destroying" on that one. It's not so bad to depin the relays and swap the fusebox, only thing is, I tried swapping one wire at a time, both fuseboxes side by side, and I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's a lot harder than just yanking all and connecting from 0.
Thanks Galahad!! Awesome product.
Small comment, i'd bought another fusebox, and did the "destroying" on that one. It's not so bad to depin the relays and swap the fusebox, only thing is, I tried swapping one wire at a time, both fuseboxes side by side, and I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's a lot harder than just yanking all and connecting from 0.
Thanks Galahad!! Awesome product.
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Dec 11, 2022 9:35 PM
You're welcome! Always happy to see successful installs!Ju@n wrote: Dec 11, 2022 9:17 PM Better late than sorry, bought mine a looong time ago, and only just got around to install it.
Small comment, i'd bought another fusebox, and did the "destroying" on that one. It's not so bad to depin the relays and swap the fusebox, only thing is, I tried swapping one wire at a time, both fuseboxes side by side, and I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's a lot harder than just yanking all and connecting from 0.
Thanks Galahad!! Awesome product.
We're trying to come up with ways to make installation easier but there's not much short of making entire replacement boxes...
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Dec 11, 2022 10:33 PM
Agree, it's not that hard of a thing to install, but I was a bit wary of the destruction part, it was much better out of the car, but you then introduce the depin. So I guess it's one or the other haha.
It's a pitty the fusebox did not come as a pluggable part of the car on our e28s.
It's a pitty the fusebox did not come as a pluggable part of the car on our e28s.
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Dec 11, 2022 11:04 PM
Porsche 928s have fuse / relay panels that are all done with plugs, easy swap. Problem is the engineers were on drugs and made all but about 5 of the 200+ wires gray so I wouldn't call it an improvement hahaJu@n wrote: Dec 11, 2022 10:33 PM Agree, it's not that hard of a thing to install, but I was a bit wary of the destruction part, it was much better out of the car, but you then introduce the depin. So I guess it's one or the other haha.
It's a pitty the fusebox did not come as a pluggable part of the car on our e28s.
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Dec 12, 2022 8:41 AM
Hahaha that sounds like aircraft wiringGalahad wrote: Dec 11, 2022 11:04 PMPorsche 928s have fuse / relay panels that are all done with plugs, easy swap. Problem is the engineers were on drugs and made all but about 5 of the 200+ wires gray so I wouldn't call it an improvement hahaJu@n wrote: Dec 11, 2022 10:33 PM Agree, it's not that hard of a thing to install, but I was a bit wary of the destruction part, it was much better out of the car, but you then introduce the depin. So I guess it's one or the other haha.
It's a pitty the fusebox did not come as a pluggable part of the car on our e28s.
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Dec 13, 2022 11:01 AM
Question, super anal mode: Where do you source the fuses from? I'd like to get a 10A for fuse 8 and replace the 2 7.5 I burnt. And I'd like them to match (the ones I can get locally are the "translucent" type
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Dec 13, 2022 4:31 PM
I include Littelfuse brand fuses, I buy them from Mouser / DigiKey but they are available other places as well.Ju@n wrote: Dec 13, 2022 11:01 AM Question, super anal mode: Where do you source the fuses from? I'd like to get a 10A for fuse 8 and replace the 2 7.5 I burnt. And I'd like them to match (the ones I can get locally are the "translucent" type
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Dec 13, 2022 4:50 PM
E28 mini box: yes.
I installed my blade box months ago, never posted.. works just great. I swear the car runs better, at least it seems to be less finicky electrically. I upped the fuses for the radio, the keyless entry.. I think that was it. No issues at all, likely the best overall 'upgrade' I've ever done to the car, except for maybe the full R134a retrofit on the AC. (The gauges, along with a cluster rebuild from Palo Alto, work better, although I think I have a bad water temp gauge itself, as it 'hangs' above mid section [12] if it get's that far.. the only fix is to shut the car off and restart it, and it drops back to it's usual place. Well, I've been chasing this issue for almost a decade now, at least I now know what it is!)
I installed my blade box months ago, never posted.. works just great. I swear the car runs better, at least it seems to be less finicky electrically. I upped the fuses for the radio, the keyless entry.. I think that was it. No issues at all, likely the best overall 'upgrade' I've ever done to the car, except for maybe the full R134a retrofit on the AC. (The gauges, along with a cluster rebuild from Palo Alto, work better, although I think I have a bad water temp gauge itself, as it 'hangs' above mid section [12] if it get's that far.. the only fix is to shut the car off and restart it, and it drops back to it's usual place. Well, I've been chasing this issue for almost a decade now, at least I now know what it is!)
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Dec 16, 2022 5:50 PM
I've finally finished for the fall semester - I got my grading for the cryptography final done today. The kids this year came up with new and interesting ways to do math wrong as they usually do. I should be able to get to fixing the robot over break
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Dec 16, 2022 6:19 PM
thx!!!Galahad wrote: Dec 13, 2022 4:31 PMI include Littelfuse brand fuses, I buy them from Mouser / DigiKey but they are available other places as well.Ju@n wrote: Dec 13, 2022 11:01 AM Question, super anal mode: Where do you source the fuses from? I'd like to get a 10A for fuse 8 and replace the 2 7.5 I burnt. And I'd like them to match (the ones I can get locally are the "translucent" type
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Dec 19, 2022 10:20 PM
I got my robot through the homing process, everything is working again! I'll see how many boards I can get built tomorrow.
It's a temporary fix but it should hold until the summer when I can finish the repair project.
It's a temporary fix but it should hold until the summer when I can finish the repair project.
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Dec 22, 2022 6:04 PM
Good news! I finished QCing nearly 20 boards today, they'll go out with tomorrow's mail which almost catches up on existing orders.
I ran out of parts so a few orders will have to wait until the new boards arrive, but the big manufacturing delay is over!
I ran out of parts so a few orders will have to wait until the new boards arrive, but the big manufacturing delay is over!
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Jan 08, 2023 11:36 PM
is this a replacement for Part No. 61131373433??Galahad wrote: Nov 11, 2022 10:23 PM Open question: Who would want a Mini-Box Upgrade Kit?
No LEDs, just two blade fuse holders. Pic of the prototype:
(#10 on https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showpa ... Id=61_0594) ???
I AM SO DOWN FOR IT
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Jan 08, 2023 11:51 PM
Similar to the regular fuse boards, this would be a replacement assembly for the fuse holders in a reused housing, but yes it's for #10 in that image.Foonfer wrote: Jan 08, 2023 11:36 PMis this a replacement for Part No. 61131373433??Galahad wrote: Nov 11, 2022 10:23 PM Open question: Who would want a Mini-Box Upgrade Kit?
No LEDs, just two blade fuse holders. Pic of the prototype:
(#10 on https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showpa ... Id=61_0594) ???
I AM SO DOWN FOR IT
I'm playing a bit of catch up at the moment (school, finishing building backorders today and tomorrow, life otherwise happening), this is still on my list of things to get done. IIRC I was having issues with the fuses being too tall for the cover when I checked, I'll need to think a bit and see what percolates.
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Jan 10, 2023 9:36 PM
Hi, would someone please educate me what's the mini fusebox for? My car wans't quite factory, non cat and RHD and I don't see a mini fuse box next to the factory fuse box. Thanks
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Jan 10, 2023 10:48 PM
Hi Cannabis9478,
My RHD 525e (UK version) does not have a mini fuse box fitted. When I check RealOEM using my VIN it shows item 10 as greyed out.
Maybe check Real OEM using your VIN to see if it is greyed out which would indicate that you also do not have a mini fuse box. If item 10 is not greyed out then it was likely originally fitted to your car.
Best regards,
Mick
My RHD 525e (UK version) does not have a mini fuse box fitted. When I check RealOEM using my VIN it shows item 10 as greyed out.
Maybe check Real OEM using your VIN to see if it is greyed out which would indicate that you also do not have a mini fuse box. If item 10 is not greyed out then it was likely originally fitted to your car.
Best regards,
Mick
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Jan 11, 2023 1:26 AM
Not every car has one. My understanding is they were used to make adding aftermarket stuff possible without hacking into your harness or fuse box. I've only had one car with one that was used and it was for an alarm system.Cannabis9478 wrote: Jan 10, 2023 9:36 PM Hi, would someone please educate me what's the mini fusebox for? My car wans't quite factory, non cat and RHD and I don't see a mini fuse box next to the factory fuse box. Thanks
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Jan 11, 2023 4:34 PM
Thanks Mick I have checked my chassis number against realoem and bmwfans and both seem to have the mini fusebox greyed out.Ordnator wrote: Jan 10, 2023 10:48 PM Hi Cannabis9478,
My RHD 525e (UK version) does not have a mini fuse box fitted. When I check RealOEM using my VIN it shows item 10 as greyed out.
Maybe check Real OEM using your VIN to see if it is greyed out which would indicate that you also do not have a mini fuse box. If item 10 is not greyed out then it was likely originally fitted to your car.
Best regards,
Mick
Ahh cool thanks for your reply, Galahad. By far this fusebox retrofit kit is still the best mod I have done for my car so far. Thank you again.Galahad wrote: Jan 11, 2023 1:26 AM Not every car has one. My understanding is they were used to make adding aftermarket stuff possible without hacking into your harness or fuse box. I've only had one car with one that was used and it was for an alarm system.
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Jan 18, 2023 2:35 PM
Just installed this kit in my 535is and am glad I finally committed to the process!
I have 2 questions:
1. My idle air valve now sounds like it is on or powered when the key is in the accessory program (can hear it when I put my ear up to it). I am guessing there is a wire in the wrong spot.......I have no idea which one it might be!
2. The LED's which are on when the car is off, key is out.....I assume these won't drain the battery.... Just checking if I should flick the switch to turn the LED's off.
Thanks,
Bryan
'87 535is
I have 2 questions:
1. My idle air valve now sounds like it is on or powered when the key is in the accessory program (can hear it when I put my ear up to it). I am guessing there is a wire in the wrong spot.......I have no idea which one it might be!
2. The LED's which are on when the car is off, key is out.....I assume these won't drain the battery.... Just checking if I should flick the switch to turn the LED's off.
Thanks,
Bryan
'87 535is
Re: Holy Grail Labs - Blade Fuse Upgrade Kits
Posted: Jan 18, 2023 9:12 PM
hey Bryan- to your questions,beast02er wrote: Jan 18, 2023 2:35 PM Just installed this kit in my 535is and am glad I finally committed to the process!
I have 2 questions:
1. My idle air valve now sounds like it is on or powered when the key is in the accessory program (can hear it when I put my ear up to it). I am guessing there is a wire in the wrong spot.......I have no idea which one it might be!
2. The LED's which are on when the car is off, key is out.....I assume these won't drain the battery.... Just checking if I should flick the switch to turn the LED's off.
Thanks,
Bryan
'87 535is
1) Almost sure the ICV (Idle Control Valve) should be "humming" the moment the key is turned to "acc" (cluster lights test on, last step before turning the engine on)
2) LED's draw current. Very little, but they do. They are there for you to easily check which fuses are active and whether there's any burned ones. I prefer to keep my LEDs off if I'm not using them.