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Posted: **Jan 16, 2023 5:37 PM**

So onto cleaning various pieces before attempting to restore to as close to OEM color as possible.
Here are before/after pics of the hat shelf behind the rear seat. I vacuumed, spot shot stain remover, and then used a portable Bissell to clean it. It's faded from AZ sun, but areas that were always covered show the original color.

ugh this is what came out of it

Posted: **Jan 16, 2023 7:19 PM**

gwb72tii wrote: Dec 05, 2022 3:05 PM
The amazing (at least to me) result of installing this box is the huge, controlled bass without the car thumping all over the street.

But, but, but... perhaps not for you, but for most of those who run big thumping stereos, letting everyone know you have a big thumping stereo is the whole purpose. Listening to it is irrelevant.

Posted: **Jan 16, 2023 7:47 PM**

Mike W. wrote: Jan 16, 2023 7:19 PM
But, but, but... perhaps not for you, but for most of those who run big thumping stereos, letting everyone know you have a big thumping stereo is the whole purpose. Listening to it is irrelevant.

No, that's the folks after the baby boomers. The Gen-X and later are most concerned with the ability to let those outside the vehicle know how bad the driver's taste in music really is.

My thumping and bumping subs are for occupant's enjoyment mostly, back massages in the rear seats. Those outside the vehicle don't hear much until I open the windows.

Posted: **Jan 16, 2023 7:52 PM**

Blue Shadow wrote: Jan 16, 2023 7:47 PM
Mike W. wrote: Jan 16, 2023 7:19 PM
But, but, but... perhaps not for you, but for most of those who run big thumping stereos, letting everyone know you have a big thumping stereo is the whole purpose. Listening to it is irrelevant.
No, that's the folks after the baby boomers. The Gen-X and later are most concerned with the ability to let those outside the vehicle know how bad the driver's taste in music really is.

My thumping and bumping subs are for occupant's enjoyment mostly, back massages in the rear seats. Those outside the vehicle don't hear much until I open the windows.

curious, do you have a pass through from the trunk thru the center armrest? was used for skis I believe, at least in e30's. that's where we'd position the sub to fire through, but my car has no passthrough and I'm reluctant to start sawing a BF hole.

Posted: **Jan 16, 2023 11:20 PM**

gwb72tii wrote: Jan 16, 2023 7:52 PM
curious,

I have a hole cut in the rear firewall for the dual 10" to fire through. The box is bolted to the firewall and has two chambers, one for each driver.

Posted: **Jan 16, 2023 11:25 PM**

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I have a hole cut in the rear firewall for the dual 10" to fire through. The box is bolted to the firewall.
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Two 10s must knock! Did you ever choose another set up before landing on this one? Would one 10 (or 12) be sufficient based on your experience? How many watts are you using to push both woofers?

Sorry for hi-jacking the thread--these are my only questions, I promise!

Posted: **Jan 16, 2023 11:27 PM**

http://bimmerboard.com/members/kff/orig ... 0place.jpg

I just went with the woofers the store I used to work at when it was only home stereo recommended back in 1988. That is an older pic. I've got some changes scheduled. Probably check the amps which are 4x40 for the ADS 300i plates and ADS 320i front speakers and 2x80 for the subs. I have an amp to go in that will allow the ADS to do just the top end and the Alpine will do the subs. I don't need it louder as it rocks as it is and will keep up with my home rig which has 200 wpc plus 150w on each sub in that system.

Posted: **Jan 16, 2023 11:58 PM**

That is impressive, Blue Shadow! Thanks for the explanation.

Posted: **Jan 17, 2023 12:04 AM**

To repeat an older post, where am I? Cindy and I travel. We were here for the first couple weeks of January.
Triple brownie points for this one, and you need to be specific:

Posted: **Jan 17, 2023 12:31 AM**

Pearl Resorts Bora Bora

Posted: **Jan 17, 2023 9:52 AM**

Close, very close, but no cigar

Posted: **Jan 21, 2023 1:49 AM**

gwb72tii wrote: Jan 17, 2023 9:52 AM Close, very close, but no cigar

I was gonna say Phuket, because I like to say Phuket...

Posted: **Jan 22, 2023 12:47 PM**

Onto a little cleaning today. Somewhere along the way of acquiring pearl beige interior pieces I wound up with 3 sets of door cards, most of which are in good shape. However most of which are in need of serious cleaning. The foam insulation(?) backing is completely dried out to no surprise, but in good enough shape to use as templates for cutting out new foam pieces for final reassembly.

Looking pretty old:

basically dust

The difference in tone doesn't really show up in this comparison, clean on the left

Here you can kinda see the dirty cleaning fluid coming out of the pores of the door card. Lots of fluid and hand scrubbing and then the portable Bissell carpet machine to suck it all out.

and you get this. I think it looks pretty good.

Posted: **Jan 22, 2023 12:51 PM**

Blue Shadow wrote: Jan 17, 2023 12:31 AM Pearl Resorts Bora Bora

Actually off of Taha'a, but you can see Bora Bora:

Posted: **Jan 24, 2023 12:52 AM**

gwb72tii wrote: Jan 22, 2023 12:51 PM
Close, very close, but no cigar

Actually off of Taha'a, but you can see Bora Bora:

The entire earth and I missed it by 10 miles? Dang. Was it Le Taha'a Island Resort & Spa? They have a similar view

Thought of Bora Bora first and searched for images of overwater accommodations and the build techniques and especially the color were the same. Looked for a resort that had the view you had but the land mass was much taller. Didn't back out and look for other nearby locations.

Must have been nice, hope the shoulder repair didn't get in the way all the time.

Posted: **Jan 24, 2023 7:59 AM**

I must admit it was a very good guess Shadow
https://www.letahaa.com/

Have you spent time there?

Posted: **Jan 24, 2023 3:21 PM**

No, Dad was in the Army and I've been around and was good in geography because of living in Europe 1st-4th grade and sightseeing vacations. Then visited my Dad in Korea when I was in college since he was there with family and I was still a dependent Uncle Sam got me there and back. He put me on a tour of the Far East run by the USO.

Then he retired and traveled the world with my step mom. I'm sure my dad enjoyed his visit to Bora Bora and such way more than his year on Eniwetok when in the army. So I've seen pics and well with my first guess, the hut construction was the same. I didn't know there was such a nearby island with some similar accommodations. So my geography database is improved.

Posted: **Jan 25, 2023 2:08 PM**

I've got to get myself one of those Bissell carpet machines...

Posted: **Jan 26, 2023 3:17 PM**

Mdreamer wrote: Jan 25, 2023 2:08 PM I've got to get myself one of those Bissell carpet machines...

Not sure I've ever used it on the cars, but I can see it would work, but they're dynamite inside the house.

Posted: **Jan 26, 2023 4:34 PM**

The Bissell worked really well. With the door cards it was essentially a wet/dry vacuumm sucking all the dirty fluid out of the pores.

https://www.amazon.com/Bissell-Multi-Pu ... r=8-5&th=1

next up is the interior carpet, which is quite dirty.

Posted: **Jan 26, 2023 9:12 PM**

I'm sold! Thanks to the two of you.

Posted: **Jan 27, 2023 7:16 PM**

A little more progress. When I mounted the rear wing, I clamped the outside edges to the trunk lid to provide pressure to the adhesive tape that holds the outside "wings" to the trunk. It's about 45* here max during the day and the tape adheres better when its warmer.

don't you love Zinno?

I haven't had the e28 down from the top of the lift since surgery, and I had forgotten what shape the carpets are in. I know I need to shampoo them, but they are pretty worn out. You can see before/after pics below after one attempt at cleaning. They need more than one attempt. My goal is to get them clean enough so when I get floor mats they hide how rough the carpet is. The pictures really don't show how dirty and stained they are.

And this guy wants to be in the middle of everything

Posted: **Jan 28, 2023 6:48 AM**

gwb72tii wrote: Jan 27, 2023 7:16 PMdon't you love Zinno?

Looks stunning!

You've got that rear end dialed in, spoiler and badge.

Carpet came up decent for a first-pass. You have to figure there may be 30+ years of dirt in some parts.
I've seen some detailing videos where they vibrate the carpet to help knock some dirt loose from the fibers. Haven't tried it myself but seems to help?

Posted: **Jan 28, 2023 8:58 AM**

Panici wrote: Jan 28, 2023 6:48 AMCarpet came up decent for a first-pass. You have to figure there may be 30+ years of dirt in some parts.
I've seen some detailing videos where they vibrate the carpet to help knock some dirt loose from the fibers. Haven't tried it myself but seems to help?

You can pull the carpet out to clean, agitate & pressure-wash it. Blue Shadow has done that with great results.

Posted: **Jan 28, 2023 1:05 PM**

I have a commercial carpet cleaner coming Monday afternoon to do their best. $100 and it should wind up as clean as it can be. Part of the issue is I can only use my left arm right now to scrub and vacuum. Plus $100 seems pretty reasonable.

Fingers crossed.......

well the carpet guy is sick as a dog, so as I am out of town starting Saturday this is on the shelf until mid February

hey Shadow, spend any time in Tokyo or Kyoto?

Posted: **Feb 05, 2023 6:20 PM**

following to feel bad about my car but to learn these awesome techniques and ideas for restoration. Thank you for sharing

Posted: **Feb 05, 2023 10:56 PM**

I have flown into and out of Japan and that is the extent of my time in the country. Layover on the way to Korea.

Posted: **Feb 14, 2023 5:46 PM**

I was wondering as my wife and I were headed to Japan for a long overdue vacation.
We went, and knowing the Japanese are into cars, I was curious to see what they have. Saw a few Ferrari's and a couple Lambo's, but this took the cake. Japanese gansta's. Not sure you can call it lifted as it's so small and cute

Posted: **Feb 14, 2023 9:31 PM**

Kei trucks. They're available in different configurations. Right size for Japanese roads.

Posted: **Mar 05, 2023 11:39 PM**

garageboy wrote: Dec 01, 2021 4:05 AM

Here is the truth. Since I was a wee lad, it's expensive to paint a car. To do it right, it's always going to be expensive. The "paint the car" part is the easy part. I have a friend who went through all the BMW manufacturer painting instruction over 30 years. Of course they learned about the evolution of BMW's brilliance in applying paint to a car, culminating in the BMW Paint System (the globally-environmentally-award-winning process) that is water-based and bulletproof. But none of that is possible without the initial assembly, rustrproofing, and dipping in zinc.

The time AND cost is in the preparation. It doesn't matter how well you paint a car if it isn't prep'd properly. And to really do it correctly, it takes hours of meticulous hand-eye work to mimic what happened when the car came out of the factory, to ensure the best quality paint job. And, of course, the post-painting part of the process is equally time-consuming.

THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN TRUE. And it always will be. You get what you pay for.

The other truth is a less happy one. If you discover your E28 has rust, you will eventually be forced to accept that in addition to the rust you can see, there is more rust you cannot see. So unless it is a special car that will fetch more than US$100,000, chasing after rust is a fool's errand. Good luck with the restoration!

So, so true garageboy!!! I love to see these comments from some people in threads that say the body and paint work will be $10K, or even $15K. Not even close if you want it done right and looking proper... I'm on my 5th project car and the body & paintwork is always the most expensive factor in a restoration or "refresh"!!

-RoyW

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