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Posted: Jan 22, 2012 4:48 PM
by 1st 5er
How the hell did my wife get you guys' phone numbers?
Posted: Jan 22, 2012 5:15 PM
by KillerPM
Hutch wrote:johnnye23 wrote: I would put a good 265 behind it and stuff it all in the Touring !!! Bad-ass...
Without a doubt, I say do this.
Yep. Doooo Itttt...
Nothing cooler then an M5T...
The E12 is not the best chassis to stuff it into. That engine in another E34, it was meant to be
Oh, then bring it on the RTT tour...
Posted: Jan 22, 2012 5:59 PM
by dragonbar
1st 5er wrote:
If my wife's Touring drops it's load prior to the swap, if it happens, then her car will be the donee as it's rust free and would make an interesting ///M addition to the stable.
You know where the drain plug is.
Posted: Jan 22, 2012 7:22 PM
by bhopp
M5 Wagon
Posted: Jan 22, 2012 8:40 PM
by JoshInAtlanta
Buy my E12 and swap the S38 into it.
/story.
Posted: Jan 22, 2012 8:57 PM
by MicahO
austin8753 wrote:Sell it outright. Price? I've always wanted an E34 M5...
This was my thought, which is why I abstained from voting. Where is the *evilgrin* smiley?
Would be cool to swap. But the e34 is really not so far gone that it deserves to be torn down. Then again, as Chris notes, they are not worth much in the open market anyhow....
Which leaves the Park It option. That's the right thing to do. Circle back at a later date and make it right? Or, provided you have no deep emotional attachment, find a home that will follow a similar path.
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 11:45 AM
by Nicke28
I think I was the first to know about this project. I was told to "keep it under my hat" but I guess Sherman has a hard time doing that himself.
I voted "park it" only because I know of 2 S38 blocks for sale ready to be built up. 1 is a bare block perfect for a complete build and the other is mostly complete,
should be missing the head and cams sometime soon
, but needs a rebuild. IMO if your going through the trouble of doing a swap, might as well build a motor for it. It will add $$$ to the project but make it that much more special.
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 7:36 PM
by 1st 5er
Nicke28 wrote:I think I was the first to know about this project. I was told to "keep it under my hat" but I guess Sherman has a hard time doing that himself.
You know how us kids are, when it comes to our toys.
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 8:33 PM
by Mike W.
I still think we need a 310+HP E12.
Put a surprise on the guys on next years Twisty.
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 8:42 PM
by ScottWL38
JoshInAtlanta wrote:Buy my E12 and swap the S38 into it.
/story.
Josh's is the definition of a nice E12. He made me get out of the driver's seat because I couldn't stop drooling on the leather!
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 10:38 PM
by 1st 5er
funfunfer wrote:
Sherman,
... The mileage is your fault! I get 18-22.
http://www.mye28.com/viewtopic.php?t=101071
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 10:46 PM
by davintosh
Hey, Sherman; here's an idea... Buy Luis' e32 and drop the S38 & a manual into it. ///M7 FTW!
Then you'd even have a spare M30B35 to put in the e12. 208 HP ought to wake it up a bit, doncha think?
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 11:32 PM
by 1st 5er
That's goin' the wrong way. E32's are just overweight E34's.
I prefer lean, mean, and sexy, know what I mean?
Eddie does...
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 11:50 PM
by mooseheadm5
The reason I didn't buy this car when I was told about it (by the person you bought it from before he picked it up) was that I didn't want it to get parted out. I don't think it is right to part out a perfectly good hand built M5 just for the drivetrain, especially after seeing what Ed Locke went through to save one that most people would write off. As I said, though, if you do I am interested in the remains.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 12:17 AM
by Dave McLaren
You don't like the thirst and you're concerned with the repairs coming along sometime on the S38. Those two don't look like good reasons to spend a bunch more to have them in an e12.
Sell it if you're not in love with it. There will always be others if you change your mind.
Dave
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 12:28 AM
by 1st 5er
Dave McLaren wrote:You don't like the thirst and you're concerned with the repairs coming along sometime on the S38. Those two don't look like good reasons to spend a bunch more to have them in an e12.
At 3K to 5K miles per year it will then be tolerable.
1st 5er wrote:... our E12, ...is relegated along with our E28 ///M5 to the occasional recreational jaunt,
I thought it'd be nice to get a bit more oomph out of its go pedal when it does hit the road.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 1:29 AM
by Kenny Blankenship
How much metal do you have to reinforce the trunk floor?
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 1:33 AM
by 1st 5er
Kenny Blankenship wrote:How much metal do you have to reinforce the trunk floor?
I've got an E12 parts car, would doubling it be sufficient?
Seriously, how much will I need?
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 1:35 AM
by mooseheadm5
All of it.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 1:40 AM
by 1st 5er
So, are we talking angle, channel, flat stock, what?
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 2:26 AM
by Kenny Blankenship
There is a technical FAQ in the First Fives website...look under Differential Mount Repair.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 11:16 AM
by davintosh
1st 5er wrote:That's goin' the wrong way. E32's are just overweight E34's.
I prefer lean, mean, and sexy, know what I mean?
Eddie does...
What's the curb weight of an e34 Touring vs. that of an e32? I'm guessing there's not much difference. And besides; the M5 Touring has been done before, but an M7? Not so much.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 11:54 AM
by 1st 5er
Kenny Blankenship wrote:There is a technical FAQ in the First Fives website...look under Differential Mount Repair.
Will do,
.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 12:29 PM
by Nicke28
davintosh wrote:1st 5er wrote:That's goin' the wrong way. E32's are just overweight E34's.
I prefer lean, mean, and sexy, know what I mean?
Eddie does...
What's the curb weight of an e34 Touring vs. that of an e32? I'm guessing there's not much difference. And besides; the M5 Touring has been done before, but an M7? Not so much.
Curb weight on the e32 is about 3800lbs. The e34 528/530/535's are around 3500 I think.
I like the e12 idea the best...
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 12:46 PM
by 1st 5er
Nicke28 wrote:davintosh wrote:1st 5er wrote:That's goin' the wrong way. E32's are just overweight E34's.
I prefer lean, mean, and sexy, know what I mean?
Eddie does...
What's the curb weight of an e34 Touring vs. that of an e32? I'm guessing there's not much difference. And besides; the M5 Touring has been done before, but an M7? Not so much.
Curb weight on the e32 is about 3800lbs. The e34 528/530/535's are around 3500 I think.
I like the e12 idea the best...
E34 ///M5 -
3,682 lbs
E28 ///M5 -
3,417 lbs
E12 Mnot -
3,371 lbs
Now we need to calculate the difference between the stock E12 M30 2.8 and the E34 S38-B36.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 1:18 PM
by Nicke28
M30: 315 lbs
M88/B35: 321 lbs
B36/B38: 332 lbs
According to this:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh ... hp?t=89822
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 1:25 PM
by 1st 5er
1st 5er wrote:
E34 ///M5 -
3,682 lbs
E28 ///M5 -
3,417 lbs
E12 Mnot -
3,371 lbs
Now we need to calculate the difference between the stock E12 M30 2.8 and the E34 S38-B36.
E34 ///M5 - 3,682 lbs
E28 ///M5 - 3,417 lbs
E12 ///M5 - 3,388 lbs
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 2:23 PM
by mooseheadm5
I don't think your weights are accurate.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 3:13 PM
by davintosh
Nicke28 wrote:Curb weight on the e32 is about 3800lbs. The e34 528/530/535's are around 3500 I think.
I like the e12 idea the best...
What about the e34 Touring? Since that's what he was considering swapping the drivetrain into, the e32 was an alternative suggestion to that. Of course the e12 is going to be lighter;
unique was the intent behind the suggestion, not light.
Either way, you'd be eligible for one of these.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 3:43 PM
by ElGuappo
davintosh wrote:1st 5er wrote:That's goin' the wrong way. E32's are just overweight E34's.
I prefer lean, mean, and sexy, know what I mean?
Eddie does...
What's the curb weight of an e34 Touring vs. that of an e32? I'm guessing there's not much difference. And besides; the M5 Touring has been done before, but an
M7? Not so much.
Who says nobody has made an M7?
I know of some guy named Kenny who has an e23 with an S38, pushes it around the track like a fat man in a tracksuit.