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Looks awesome Chris.


Do you suppose that headliner guy would like to take a Winter vacation and fly to MA to do my headliner? That's a great price IMO. I could have him do a 2 or 3, pay for his ticket, and it would be cheaper than having one done at a shop here!

It would be fun watching you shuffle all the e28s and the e34 in the driveway, in order to get this baby in the garage when she comes home Especially now that your up to 6 or is it 7 cars/

-RoyW

Sweet.

Bitchin'

Keep these updates rollin. This thread is full of awesomeness.

The headliner looks great. One thing that keeps coming to mind watching this process, is how important it is to research and find the right people to work on the car. Cultivating the resources to do a car right seems like it might be the hardest part. Well done, again.

180$ ???

Amazing! My new headliner was "hangin' there" for almost 6 months

It was a horrible thing to do, but a total of 4 evenings made my headliner into position... I am not gonna do that work again

I would gladly pay twice the amount you paid, to have a pro install it instead of me....

Do the steel rivets come galvanized (or some other coating) or do you need to paint them?

That looks very well done.

Looks awesome Chris, I can't wait to see it at St Paddy's.

Karl Grau wrote: I can't wait to see it at St Paddy's.

*guffaw*
bwahahahahahahaha!

wkohler wrote:Thanks Craig. That's something I haven't heard of or considered. I wonder if they would care. Might be worth sending them an email or something once its all back together.

Hemmings Sports and Exotic Cars has a pretty cool restoration feature every month too. I think even with 4 doors, this car fits fine.

Well, I've been standing here for an hour waiting for the glass guy. He got into an accident on the freeway. Super.

wkohler wrote: Glass should be going in tomorrow or Wednesday. I provided the new gaskets, aluminum trim and a lockstrip. I ordered two, but only seem to have gotten one.

Chris, by "lockstrip" do you mean these chrome pieces?
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I have two if you want to use one now and order another for me.
-Andy

Thanks Andy. Got one from SSF this morning. Of course the glass didn't make it in today so hopefully tomorrow!

Also, the likelihood of this car making St. Paddy's is just about as close to zero as it gets.

wkohler wrote:Thanks Andy. Got one from SSF this morning. Of course the glass didn't make it in today so hopefully tomorrow!

Also, the likelihood of this car making St. Paddy's is just about as close to zero as it gets.

2014 maybe?

wkohler wrote:... glass guy. He got into an accident on the freeway. Super.

I've always wanted to witness that exact scenario. Tough luck for you, though.

When you removed the glass initially, did the headliner sag once the glazing was removed or was it so pressed in there, it kept tension? About to pull the windscreens out on my car and am hoping not to have too much trouble getting them back in again, headlining wise. I've done plenty of windscreen fitting in my line of work, but the ole rope trick might be a challenge if the headliner sags.

Your project is coming along tremendously, Chris. Inspirational work.

It didn't move. In fact, it took some effort to unstick it from the flange. I removed the whole thing carefully to be used for a pattern or whatever.

Thanks. Fortunately, the glass guy wasn't carrying any of my glass, as its all OE BMW and at the shop.

I love this thread, it's like a car is reborn (anyone ever watch that show 10 years ago about the guy in the UK restoring a Series 1 Jag?).

Great pics and updates Chris.

I don't think I've ever seen an E28 headliner without the glue stains on the C pillar - I just assumed by now that was a factory installed feature

Chris, the car just gets better and better. Silver Glass, baby!

Jim

Thanks! Somehow I thought this was pretty simple, but looking back on just this process, there is a lot to it. I still didn't go "all-out."

RoyW wrote:Looks awesome Chris.


Do you suppose that headliner guy would like to take a Winter vacation and fly to MA to do my headliner? That's a great price IMO. I could have him do a 2 or 3, pay for his ticket, and it would be cheaper than having one done at a shop here!

It would be fun watching you shuffle all the e28s and the e34 in the driveway, in order to get this baby in the garage when she comes home Especially now that your up to 6 or is it 7 cars/

-RoyW

It was actually pretty tough to get a hold of Sonny at first. After a few calls, we finally caught him. He's very busy and only did mine because he knew we were serious and weren't going to waste his time. Pretty quiet guy. Definitely a nice guy though. I doubt he'd make the trip though. Haha.

As for getting it in the garage, it won't be that bad, all that's in the driveway right now is the 528i and the 533i (well, the touring when I'm there). The 745 is in the back yard and both M535s in the garage. Shouldn't be too difficult. Fuel tank is the first thing to go back in. Oh joy.

So, the first glass people got into an accident, which ruined our appointment. Fine. They came back the next day. I asked Mike to call me. He said he'd call me when he saw glass going into the car. I didn't get a call until 4pm. He said they gave it a shot, but it was too much for them, so they left. Another guy came, looked at the car and left. Finally, he got a hold of a guy who does nothing buy old stuff. He was on his way to do a '57 Chevy when Mike called. Said he'd swing by after. Mike said he'd follow up with me. No call for the rest of Wednesday. Nothing on Thursday until 7pm. I was in the area Thursday afternoon, but didn't want to just drop in, after all, Mike's been busy with a lot of little jobs and I'm not wanting to annoy him. He calls me at 7pm and said he's just leaving the shop. The windows are in and they took many, many hours. Said the glass guy kept insisting that this car had been wrecked and nothing fit. They both worked at it and got the glass in. Then he said it was the best he could do. Oh no. Said he was going to shoot the black on the rear valance, rockers and behind the grill this morning (Friday), and I could see it this afternoon.

I couldn't eat anything last night. I was really worried about how it would look. So, I kept waiting and waiting for a phone call. Read every thread I could find on windshields and what people have been dealing with and figured it can't be that bad. Looks like everyone has had a hard time, but they work out eventually. Finally, I'm getting annoyed. I call him at 4pm and he said he was just going to call me. I said I was sorta on that side of town, ready to go back to Phoenix and could be there in 30 minutes.

Hmmm. Rear spoiler is on. Looks good.





Looks like a window there.



Windshield made in Germany. Green tint with the darker green band. Heard of some folks getting OE windshields from Columbia.





The windows look absolutely HORRIBLE. I've never seen anything so bad in my entire life. My seals, my trim - all ruined. $600 worth completely ruined. Seals are melted and ripped. The trim is all scratched and bent. Absolutely horrible. Mike said I didn't have to pay for it. Great. You haven't seen pissed off until you show me this and then make me pay for it. That said, I didn't know it wasn't included in what I paid him for the paint job. Issues I decided not to press at the time. The only positives here is that the glass didn't get destroyed, the headliner wasn't damaged and I didn't have to pay to have someone ruin my stuff. I didn't pay the kid in the Jetta to run into my E12 either. Glad I can get these services for free.





Those are just a couple of examples of the excellence throughout the installation. I've got rips in the seals, more melty bits and tons of scratches and damage to the trim.

I tried really, really, really hard not to get super pissed off. I understand the guy had a hard time. I know Mike is not a glass person. He did his own glass in his E30 M3, but yeah, that's different. I must have told him five times that if he had ANY questions, issues or concerns to CALL ME! If it can't be done, it can't be done. I'll have someone do it at my house. Now, all I've got is a bunch of fucked up shit on a car I don't even want to finish, let alone look at. Obviously, getting upset at him isn't going to fix it and he certainly is not going to replace the stuff that was ruined. What's it going to accomplish? I cannot afford to spend $1,000 to fix stuff I already paid for.

Everything had gone very well so far. Mike had been great to work with, the quality of the work was good (though I don't know WTF is up with that area under the lower left corner of the rear glass) and everything seemed to go according to plan. Everyone has stuff that needs fixing with a paint job, but I didn't expect it would be my parts that would get ruined and I'd have to re-buy them all and take a gamble with someone else to do the work.

Apparently, it's coming home tomorrow where it will most likely just sit in the garage unfinished under a car cover for who knows how long.

Sure, you probably think I'm over-reacting, but with the amount of money I have into this project, I can assure you I'm not.

Holy crap. I'm sorry that happened. I had a hard time with my windshield but it looks better than that. Have you talked to the windshield guy? I think your reaction is on part with the issues.

I never met the guy. Don't even know his name. He was paid $200. He really felt he couldn't charge more than that, but it took him a whole day - and Mike lost most of the day too helping him, so I can't get too upset at them, but a phone call would have been nice. I guess it's one thing when they didn't buy the materials.

Wow...that's ridiculous. I probably would have been more upset.

Now I'm really nervous about getting my windshield installed after my car gets a full respray.

I really do not understand why things ended like this.

The gasket looks melted to me.

WTF?? Is he installing windows with a heatgun??

I know the trim is a PITA to install, as I just installed windows/trim on my E28. I have done such work alot of times before, a long time ago though - so I was kinda rusty

But if he is a glass-guy, I cannot understand the problem - he should be used to such challenges.

I am sorry for you, this is not the kind of pics I like to see. Was all the chromed trim brand new, or used?

good god, it looks like the guy had never met lubrication annnnnd was doing it in the freezing cold. i don't know if e28 rubber is the same price as e24 but i just got both ends for mine from ecs tuning for $158 delivered and they came in bmw bags, been years since i did a e28 windshield but i remember it being a whore with the hard curves on the sides and that lower trim, a e30 almost puts itself in it is so easy. hopefully he didn't slip and drag a pick though the new paint