Turbo Cowtipping (my F.I. build) 2/2014 addendum

[Nebraska_e28]

Holy Crap LJ!

Next time your drill spot welds let me know I'll send you a spot weld bit, it works MUCH better!

I need to replace that same damn panel, but I'm skeered!

Thanks. It was actually hard to pinpoint some of the welds since there was little or no dimple.

[Nebraska_e28]

Mission creep is again taking over... Euro glass from zie motherland.

[Nebraska_e28]

Now that I've vented how much installing headliners sucks ass, I got up the motivation to get off my lazy ass & do something about it...

[Kyle in NO]

Damn that is gangsta!

[T_C_D]

Awesome. I am taking a rattle can to mine.

[DangerWillRbnsn]

Very cool work with the headliner. I'll be doing mine as well... is it REALLY as much a PITA as everyone says? How many hours would you estimate?

Nice work!

[Mab1957]

Has that Goth thing going.

[Nebraska_e28]

Very cool work with the headliner. I'll be doing mine as well... is it REALLY as much a PITA as everyone says? How many hours would you estimate?

Nice work!

It's very tedious & I'm trying to make sure it fits a best it can. For the average person they can probably get it installed within an hour or two with patience.

[Nebraska_e28]

[T_C_D]

Nice stove!

[Nebraska_e28]

Nice stove!

That little bugger does nicely in my cramped 1-car garge. Very toasty.

[Nebraska_e28]

Not much report. There's still a ton to put back together since gettting the car back from paint. What makes this even more challenging is I'm working in a cramped 1-car garage & extra cautious not to scratch the damned thing.

I just got the rear bumper reinstalled after fixing the euro bumper mounts. I bought these new & installed them previously without putting a coat of paint over the e-coat. One of the cracked/broke from a small amount of rust that started. The other had a small crack that started. I welded both of these up good & put a good coat of paint on them for protection.

I'm giving myself 1-month to get it back in one piece. Then I can start with a few tricks up my sleeve for improvements on the turbo setup.

[Nebraska_e28]

[tschultz]

Maybe I missed it because I didn't read the whole thread, but LJ why did you go with this manifold as opposed to a 'bundle of snakes' type of design that integrates smooth equal lengths from each cylinder?

I have heard you can still make massive power from the E23 735i manifold, but that they are less efficient that other types? Space constraint/ cost?


PS- You will want to try to make it to BMW 4 Corners this year-- my friend is building up his E34 M5 to be a 600hp FI monster!! He's attending (over 65 people signed up this year!).

[DangerWillRbnsn]

I love your updates. One day mine will be like this... one day.

[Nebraska_e28]

Maybe I missed it because I didn't read the whole thread, but LJ why did you go with this manifold as opposed to a 'bundle of snakes' type of design that integrates smooth equal lengths from each cylinder?

I have heard you can still make massive power from the E23 735i manifold, but that they are less efficient that other types? Space constraint/ cost?


PS- You will want to try to make it to BMW 4 Corners this year-- my friend is building up his E34 M5 to be a 600hp FI monster!! He's attending (over 65 people signed up this year!).

Nice catch on the manifold! I decided this route primarily to be different & I like the look. I don't have hard data to differentiate flow rates, but I'm quite certain that with a few tweaks it will work just as effective as the bundle-o-snakes manifold. Target date is end of month for car to be back running.

Sounds like this years event will be quite a throwdown! It's a wasy off yet till I can commit to coming yet. This time around I'm sure there'd be no lack of power up Wolf Pass.

I love your updates. One day mine will be like this... one day.

Thanks! Keep pushing.

[Nebraska_e28]

Though some of these pictures make me seem scatterbrained, I do have an end result in mind. There have been a few minor hold-ups recently, so in the meanwhile I've been tweaking other things & gathering/modding parts. My hope is to have the car at least running by next weekend. The Vintage is getting near...

[1st 5er]

The Vintage is getting near...

Will there be a spare tranny in the boot?

[mooseheadm5]

You should have a present in the mail tomorrow.

[Nebraska_e28]

The Vintage is getting near...

Will there be a spare tranny in the boot?

Dont put it past me to do a 5-speed swap on the side of a road if circumstances demanded.

[Nebraska_e28]

Mad props to Paul @ Moosehead Engineering for adding his touch to one unique twist of this build!

[DangerWillRbnsn]

Mad props to Paul @ Moosehead Engineering for adding his touch to one unique twist of this build!

Cool! Any details of your plans for the intake?

[mooseheadm5]

BTW, I filled a hollow spot in the casting that will allow you to port match that to the head. I ran a set like that on a ported B35 head back in the day.

[tig]

This is way too much fun. Subscribed.

[T_C_D]

ITBs with the b24 cam and 4hp22?

[Nebraska_e28]

ITBs with the b24 cam and 4hp22?

e12 intake, e28 TB, stock m30b34, 4hp22 w/3K tq conv (for now)

Fabbing up some simple brackets for the fuel rail, & trying to figure a way to extend the cruise control cable.

[scarey013]

Just curious why you're going with the E12 intake when other members have tested them to be inferior to the later B35 units?


Edit: Actually, there are multiple threads that argue that fact and they come out to opposing conclusions. I wonder if anyone has actually flow tested them?

Here's one in support of the older manifold:
http://www.mye28.com/viewtopic.php?t=83466&highlight=

I believe that Lito had dynos made with both manifolds and found the B35 to be better flowing, but I don't know if he changed his set-up between runs. I can't find the thread, though...

Scott

[nerd of nerds]

Just curious why you're going with the E12 intake when other members have tested them to be inferior to the later B35 units?


Edit: Actually, there are multiple threads that argue that fact and they come out to opposing conclusions. I wonder if anyone has actually flow tested them?

Here's one in support of the older manifold:
http://www.mye28.com/viewtopic.php?t=83466&highlight=

I believe that Lito had dynos made with both manifolds and found the B35 to be better flowing, but I don't know if he changed his set-up between runs. I can't find the thread, though...

Scott

One thing to take into account with the E12 manifold is that one can install different runners on it. If memory serves, you can use parts from two M10 manifolds of similar vintage to give the E12 intake longer runners, theoretically moving peak torque to lower RPM. I recall Paul B mentioning this setup somewhere here.

One thing that really interests me about the E12 manifold is the modularity of it. If one were so inclined, they could fab up a larger plenum, custom runners, etc.

Perhaps a large sheet metal plenum with a laminova intercooler?

Either way, it's just a damned sexy manifold.

[Nebraska_e28]

Just curious why you're going with the E12 intake when other members have tested them to be inferior to the later B35 units?

Honestly, I wanted to do something off the beaten path. I've never seen a e28 with an e12 intake. When's the last time anyonne else has seen one. For the setup/mods I have in mind, I think it'll be a while before the manifiold holds me back from making power.

One thing to take into account with the E12 manifold is that one can install different runners on it. If memory serves, you can use parts from two M10 manifolds of similar vintage to give the E12 intake longer runners, theoretically moving peak torque to lower RPM.

Correct on the M10 parts. (which I have yet to source) It'll be interesting to see how things run when its all put back together. (within the week?)

Either way, it's just a damned sexy manifold.

You can say that again!

[Nebraska_e28]

Shit just gets deeper...