Dieselboost's 524compoundTD

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Zubcho
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Pls give as some pics and more info about the upgrades you have made.

:)
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Zubcho wrote:Pls give as some pics and more info about the upgrades you have made.

:)
about my car or my friends car?

http://irc-galleria.net/user/Laskeuma/picture/104062814

this is from my friends 524TD
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DieselBoost wrote:
Zubcho wrote:Pls give as some pics and more info about the upgrades you have made.

:)
about my car or my friends car?

http://irc-galleria.net/user/Laskeuma/picture/104062814

this is from my friends 524TD
About your car ;)
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ok.....

chassis front
-Koni sport adjustable shock absorters with cobra 45mm lowering springs.
-all powerflex urethane bushes
-all arms replaced with new ones

Chassis rear
-Bilstein new stock shock absorters with cobra 35mm lowering springs
-Powerflex urethane main bushes
-differential is from 520i and it is quite short

Engine

M21D24 from 1991 324TD

engine is refurbished, exception block which is opened only for replacing oil pump with new one.

cylinderhead is cleaned and valves and valve seats are machined, surface is machined.
stock head gasket gemented with vht copper gasket gemetn.
stock head studs
stock cam with timing littlebit earlier.

injection pump with cummins 12mm rotorhead and cummins stock cam plate. and many fine tunes by Pp-Diesel
Timing is 1.15mm before tdc

-gearbox stock getrac 260 5
-Clutch sachsracing 240mm(m5) with stock plate
-528i solid flywheel (240mm)

modified intake manifold
Large intercooler and radiator maded by I Raatikainen
(Erikoishitsaus raatikainen)

stock (524TD)exhaust manifold with my fitting flange with exhaust temperature and exhaust pressure outputs.

Turbo
Master Power SUPER 70 F-2 REFLOW
Model: 802315-063
compressor: 56,5mm
compressor a/r: .70
Turbine: 58,5mm
exhaust a/r: .63
flange: T3
power: 350-490hv

3" downpipe and 3" straight pipe

exteriour

-Color Toytota 162
-Rims ? 17" 7" wide
-Tires hankook ventus k110 215R1745
-rear wing from opel ascona c irmscher

so... nothing very special included for this ;)

there is about 200+?????? power now.

These mods with stock injection pump i had 191hp

now.... much more....

superturbo engine is underconstruction....and in ice...... until i get new job....
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so..... some people are thinking to get more liftpressure for injection pump....

i got answers from my pump builder....

never exceed casing pressure of injection pump...
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damn... my wet dream
I need more money and bigger garage :D
In some day i will get a "real" diesel car for my diesel performance projects
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3403/358 ... 4d7f11.jpg

This is little bit too bligbling for me..... maybe race truck look fits better to me ;)
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now im working with water/methanol spray system in my 524

only bad thing is that..... im totally broke...

so must use my creativity with this.....and freebie parts :)

this is my plan...

-two car headlight washer pumps connected in sequence to get about 4bar pressure.
- oil burner nozzle
-pressure Switch
-limit pressure valve
-self maded tank
-flow controller valve

to increasing water pressure i connect hose from turbo to water tank..

when pumps are making 4bar then boost make extra pressure about 2bar in tank..... i got allmost 6bar waterpressure

and nozzle fitted just before intake manifold

im not making this to get more power...... only to get exhausta/burning gasses little bit cooler and engine lasting longer.
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If you want pressure...I suggest you don't use vane style fluid pumps designed for flow and volume. I would use compressed air to pressurize a sealed tank of water/methanol using a small and cheap air compressor designed for inflating tires to pressurize a tank with water/methanol inside.

One option, If you fill the tank with 75% mix and leave 25% air and pressurize it to something crazy like 9 or 10(135-140PSI) bar, it should have enough pressure to push the entire charge of mix out of the tank. You can use a fuel pressure regulator to regulate the pressure of mix leaving the tank if you need to.

Second option is more difficult and more expensive, use the same idea as above but leave the compressor attached, wire it up to a pressure shut-off switch that will limit tank pressure to your desired pressure.
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Post by Frybrid 524td »

Methanol injection isn't advisable in an IDI engine based on what I've read. I plan on adding just water injection at some point after turbo, I/C, and head upgrades.
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Frybrid 524td wrote:Methanol injection isn't advisable in an IDI engine based on what I've read. I plan on adding just water injection at some point after turbo, I/C, and head upgrades.
Ok..... in finland we have used methanol/water injection for years..... and it works fine.... in our engines..... only point is dont put too much methanol max 30%
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CoyoteStarfish wrote:If you want pressure...I suggest you don't use vane style fluid pumps designed for flow and volume. I would use compressed air to pressurize a sealed tank of water/methanol using a small and cheap air compressor designed for inflating tires to pressurize a tank with water/methanol inside.

One option, If you fill the tank with 75% mix and leave 25% air and pressurize it to something crazy like 9 or 10(135-140PSI) bar, it should have enough pressure to push the entire charge of mix out of the tank. You can use a fuel pressure regulator to regulate the pressure of mix leaving the tank if you need to.

Second option is more difficult and more expensive, use the same idea as above but leave the compressor attached, wire it up to a pressure shut-off switch that will limit tank pressure to your desired pressure.
only thing is that those small compressors cant take it.

and if you use those HEADLIGHT washer pumps which are larger.... they can make pressure..... one friend told that he has measured allmost 13bar pressure with those.

this system is what im going to make is used largely in here.
and it works.

and allmost all my parts are free.
i just got pressure switch for free.
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Post by CoyoteStarfish »

13 bar... :shock:

That is pretty impressive. I say go for it then! Let us know how it turns out.
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CoyoteStarfish wrote:13 bar... :shock:

That is pretty impressive. I say go for it then! Let us know how it turns out.
i will. ;)
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I has new parts..... just bought devils own water spray nozzle and pressure limit valve

but no water games for while..... too freezy to play with water
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Post by Frybrid 524td »

Nice! I'm hoping to put a Cooling Mist kit on someday.
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Hay guys. I'm a total newb when it comes to diesels but I'm pretty comfartable boosting m20s. So just to be clear if I want a moddest increase in boost say 1.5 bar i'd just need to put a bigger turbo and a stronger internal wastegate? No bigger injectors or other mods. Sounds like the factory pump will handle the rest with no mods for my power goals.
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einstein57 wrote:Hay guys. I'm a total newb when it comes to diesels but I'm pretty comfartable boosting m20s. So just to be clear if I want a moddest increase in boost say 1.5 bar i'd just need to put a bigger turbo and a stronger internal wastegate? No bigger injectors or other mods. Sounds like the factory pump will handle the rest with no mods for my power goals.
yes.... no bigger mods..... only fine tuning with injection pump...
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Awesome. Guess we will find out how much torque an auto can take. Lol
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Post by Frybrid 524td »

einstein57 wrote:Guess we will find out how much torque an auto can take
FWIW I'm planning to swap in some 4HP24 internals into my 4HP22 sometime this summer to beef it up a bit (That and my A clutch pack needs tending to).
http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk ... oductId=51
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Wow thats a lot of coin. Really its not but its more then i'm willing to spend on a 25 year old transmission. I'm going to do a 5 speed swap and install a 2.93 lsd when the auto finally gives out. Its pretty smooth and has only 150k miles so it may take a while
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Post by Frybrid 524td »

I'll be working on my A/T myself. No way in hell I'm shipping it to the U.K. and spending that kind of money.
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Ok nothing new on my car.... but....

I just got back to home from dyno....

quite nice dyno run from my friends mb 190D over 380bhp and about 560nm torque
with water spray system power decreased about 5kw but this was only water.... not methanol/water mix

funny thing was when we was going to dyno, my friend tested his car and when 3rd gear was in..... suddenly BOOM!.... and there wasn't 3rd gear anymore..... :laugh:

engine is basically unopened non turbo om603 300D engine
mods are
-garrett gt40 turbo
-holysmokediesel injectionpump with 7mm plungers
-large chinacooler
-special exhaustmanifold and 3.5" exhaust system
-special plenum
-devils own water/alcohol injection system
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380 out of a 190D? :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Frybrid 524td wrote:380 out of a 190D? :shock: :shock: :shock:
wait for the videos ;)
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Ohhh. Nice. :cool:
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new st mercedes burnout video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMP6FBJF6lQ
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Oh DB, where art thou? Haven't heard from you in a while.
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CoyoteStarfish wrote:Oh DB, where art thou? Haven't heard from you in a while.
Here! :)

And unfortunately there is nothing new with my project :zzz:
but i can tell few funny things with other cars :laugh:

that 190diesel is now former one... engine exploded :laugh:
but there is now new engine OM606 24valve turbodiesel with all fun stuff from old engine...

but it seems that my project is really on ice until i get that new job...
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Post by Angelic0- »

I love diesel... :)

I have a E36 ti (Compact) with a M57 swap (i am yet to complete)

but you can read through my thread on bimmerforums if you like..

i must get one of those 324 / 524tds engines to fiddle with..

i also have a Cummins 5.9 with a P7100 pump... makes about 350whp with the original turbo & injectors... it's unbeleiveable !

here's a link to my E36 M57 thread:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh ... ?t=1558481

and here's a picture of my Cummins truck drifting:
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