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Posted: Aug 16, 2010 1:23 PM
by FABEL
Moose wrote:Wow haha, this thread blew up.

The car is not for everyone, it has stretched tires, is stupid low, and the rear has a lot of camber. Fabel, I appreciate you attempting to "get my back", but honestly you are beating a dead horse, and making me look bad by arguing it as I do not side 100% with you and you have some misinformation there. I would have preferred the comment went unprovoked....
well I'd like to ask: how so?

(am I making you look bad; do you not side with me; what information is misinformed)

you knew before you posted that there would be a lot of tension coming in this forum & posting the stance you provided,

so the 'provoking' came from your rear camber, stretched tires, & what seems to the unaware as an undriveable car.

I do like it, but I also agree with your assesment of the vehicle as well.

whatever, have fun & push the limits in ALL ways, then scale back & make the most of what is would be my philosphy & I was morese encouraging you or any other to do the same without worries of those just here to diminish the pride one takes in his car.

I know to stick up for you specifically would be beating a dead horse & so was not my attempt.

I moreso care to break cookie-cutter mentality of every car needs to be modded the same & that a car that does not carry it's own personality does not belong to you in the same way as it does the person that pushed limits, took risks, & attempted multiple feats within the same chassis over an extended period of time.

I have 'the back' of the person willing to enjoy their car in a direction that gives them the most fulfillment in return & I thought that was what you were after.

I will continue to encourage this, including within your thread, whether welcomed or not as I am not sticking up for the build as much as I am sticking up for:

the desire to pursue the vision one sees in their head & bringing THAT to reality, rather than being scared to take chances or receive ill approval from our peers.

there are plenty of members on here that do this & is who I respect most. it can be stock or stanced or oem-plus, I don't care as long as it is WELL DONE in that specific category.

one day everyone will get it :roll: I hope.

Posted: Aug 16, 2010 1:33 PM
by Moose
Please stop posting in my thread. If you want to be a knight for "individuality" pursue it somewhere else. Obviously I have done what I want with my car, and will continue to do so in the future. If someone doesn't like it that is fine, and they have every right to post that they dislike it. It does not become an issue until someone like you quotes them and tries to prove they are wrong, when in reality it is just their opinion.

Posted: Aug 16, 2010 1:40 PM
by FABEL
Jake D wrote: What Fagel (sp?) did is the typical response/approach to defending the style and trying to convince me that I'm wrong and he's right.
seems like YOU are the one with a chip on your shoulder when you come in here insulting a car, another forum, a difficult style to perfect, as well as insulting me.

I did no such thing to you or anyone else, so why bring a fight?

'dunceworks' was a bit funny & even better described, but where did I convince you that you were wrong & where did I convince you that I was right?

I did defend the style because it deserves to be defended. I think it's on the extreme end, but at the same time, I know how difficult it can be to 'dial in' a car correctly with the correct stretch to match the rear set, what camber settings are necessary to fit an oversized wheel, the effect of offsets, etc.

I just gave Moose the thumbs up & tried to remove any of the booing . . . why fault me for this?

& eventhough I care little to admit this, especially now:

I really LOVE your car. it sits so nice on the style 5 wheels & bumpers, the shadowtrim that I am too leary to try myself yet, & even generally your knowledge on these cars.

I have used YOUR car Jake to convince a fellow co-worker to purchase an E28.

---- notice! I said I used your car as the example car to
convince a co-worker into buying an E28 himself, not
mine.

---- also notice, that mine has 160k mi. with NO rust, 3 owner
history with 2in. stack of receipts, always garage kept,
multiple sets of wheels (mostly OEM BMW sets), etc.

---- again, even as clean of an exampled E28 I have, I used
YOURS!!

so I ask,

how could I have ever told you that you were wrong?

I did not & don't recall EVER telling anyone they were or even hinting at it.

I have had your photos as my background at some point in the past.

I would say that for me, your setup would be ideal (90%) to how I'd like my car to be someday.

gosh Josh, be nice mate!

Posted: Aug 16, 2010 1:43 PM
by FABEL
Moose wrote:Please stop posting in my thread. If you want to be a knight for "individuality" pursue it somewhere else. Obviously I have done what I want with my car, and will continue to do so in the future. If someone doesn't like it that is fine, and they have every right to post that they dislike it. It does not become an issue until someone like you quotes them and tries to prove they are wrong, when in reality it is just their opinion.
you are right. I am sorry. I seriously am

I will not post in this thread any longer.

I never meant to reply this much to begin with & is certainly not right of me to be so prominent in YOUR thread.

I'll leave it at: car is beautiful!

Posted: Aug 16, 2010 6:44 PM
by 1st 5er
FABEL wrote:I come here to learn & you sir are disrupting class.
Using the "Search" function before posting will reveal who the teachers are here.

Posted: Aug 16, 2010 7:52 PM
by Das_Prachtstrasse
God i love this forum.

Posted: Aug 16, 2010 8:07 PM
by Eta power
Das_Prachtstraße wrote:God i love this forum.
MyE28.com: Better than TV.

Posted: Aug 16, 2010 8:33 PM
by Kyle in NO
FABEL wrote:
Kyle in NO wrote:fa·ble

Fabel
1. Douche Bag
why call me such?
Have you actually read your last 38 posts?

Posted: Aug 17, 2010 12:14 AM
by C.R. Krieger
Kyle in NO wrote:
FABEL wrote:
Kyle in NO wrote:fa·ble

Fabel
1. Douche Bag
why call me such?
Have you actually read your last 38 posts?
"ZING!"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Posted: Aug 17, 2010 12:44 AM
by 1st 5er
Eta power wrote:
Das_Prachtstraße wrote:God i love this forum.
MyE28.com: Better than TV.
For both news and entertainment...

Posted: Aug 17, 2010 3:14 AM
by Jake D
FABEL wrote: gosh Josh, be nice mate!
I shall give it a shot. PM sent.

Posted: Aug 17, 2010 10:40 AM
by runningpanda
Hey man, any chance that beauty might make a trip up to the Ocean City H2Oi meet this september? ;)

Posted: Aug 17, 2010 1:43 PM
by Moose
The last few posts :laugh:
runningpanda wrote:Hey man, any chance that beauty might make a trip up to the Ocean City H2Oi meet this september? ;)


More than likely it will not, maybe next year. H20 seems like a better event to visit than take your car too from what I have heard.

Posted: Aug 17, 2010 1:58 PM
by thatracer
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Posted: Aug 17, 2010 10:08 PM
by runningpanda
I'm going for the "Rejects of H2Oi" meet. A lot of BMW's going to apparently.

Posted: Aug 17, 2010 10:33 PM
by mooseheadm5
FABEL wrote:
mooseheadm5 wrote:In a world without speed bumps and potholes and driveway entrances, I might run my car that low. This is not that world. Looks cool, though.
these comments never make sense

& to a person that chooses to take his time driving & evaluating road conditions,

IT IS WORTH IT.

everyone, I mean everyone agrees that a lowered car looks better. car companies, race teams, even hot rods all lower their cars for photoshoots . . . some choose to keep their car looking photo fresh 365 a year.

just because you can't handle the drive doesn't mean this is true for all.

I know this post probably seems harsh; maybe I am sorry for this.

regardless, it's his drive, so my thought would be that it's not for you to worry about.
You are a douche canoe for sure. I do think the car looks cool and said so. Of course a car looks good low, but race cars don't have to go over speed bumps or potholes. It has nothing to do with "evaluating the road conditions." In the real world, where I drive my lowered M5 I have to slow the hell down for driveways, bumps, etc. If my car were that low, I'd just have to go home. I get to drive much more because I haven't dropped it to the ground.
Obviously the OP posted because he wanted to show his car and get opinions. He is no idiot- he knows that some of these opinions will be unfavorable.

You know nothing of what driving I can handle. Go hang upside down with your head in a bucket of hyena offal.

Moose, if I ever meet you in person, I'm taking a picture of your car bottoming out on my wallet, which is always empty from buying car parts. :banana:

Posted: Aug 17, 2010 10:57 PM
by Moose
Anyone can drive a lowered car, it isn't THAT hard. I NEVER hit potholes, but speedbumps and entrances at that height can be interesting. As said before the only thing that really touches is the exhaust which I don't mind hitting here and there. That is why mos people don't do it. You can really get anywhere you want to unless it is absolutely absurd. As said, is not for everyone, and if the car was mint, I would not do it. As it is not, I don't see a few scuff marks on the underside as a big deal :dunno: It does help to have a car for performance in the garage as well.

I will gladly destroy your wallet :D
runningpanda wrote:I'm going for the "Rejects of H2Oi" meet. A lot of BMW's going to apparently.
Sounds interesting haha

Posted: Aug 17, 2010 11:24 PM
by runningpanda
Yeah mang, should be an interesting time.


X2 on the feeling that the car isn't in great shape, so why not. That's a big reason I did it, and plan to go lower still.

Posted: Aug 18, 2010 7:20 PM
by wittycow
I am glad it went to a good home! Looks Great!

Posted: Aug 19, 2010 12:22 AM
by Roberto
FABEL wrote:
Kyle in NO wrote:fa·ble

Fabel
1. Douche Bag
why call me such?

I maturely came in this thread & complimented a fellow member of the board.

look through ANY post of mine; I have never put someone down & certainly never called a fellow member names.

if you don't like my replies, don't read them, but I can guarentee that EVERYTHING I write is either in complimentary form or slight advice to maximize what's already there.

I come here to learn & you sir are disrupting class. think of your age & how immature it is to have done for the rest of us

as I will continue to go on learning/ sharing/ encouraging the forum's multiple directions while you continue to disrupt.

shame on you!
I just want to know WHY THE HEck do you double space every line! I just want to know.
(edited because I'm not that angry of a person :))

...Anyway, I think Moose's car is pretty darn COOL!

Posted: Aug 19, 2010 2:44 AM
by CSBolger
Lulz. Angry Rob is angry.

As I've said before, I get all kinds of cute and cuddly feelings looking at your car, Moose.

Posted: Aug 19, 2010 10:17 AM
by runningpanda
Best comment ever, Chris. :laugh: