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caleb 87 535is · Post by **caleb 87 535is** » Mar 15, 2013 12:43 AM

wkohler wrote:This thread is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've read on here in a while.

What you don't believe I have the 320i? Cause if thats so I will gladly post up pics of it title and all in my name. Hell when I get the little kinks worked out of I'll drive it down to the next meet if i get it worked out in time.

Kyle in NO · Post by **Kyle in NO** » Mar 15, 2013 12:48 AM

Wow, even I didn't think it would be circling the drain this soon! Your O2 sensor has nothing to do with your no-start condition.

caleb 87 535is · Post by **caleb 87 535is** » Mar 15, 2013 12:59 AM

Kyle in NO wrote:Wow, even I didn't think it would be circling the drain this soon! Your O2 sensor has nothing to do with your no-start condition.

I didn't think so either. But The guy who previously owned it did his own "work" on it. Im going to swap the fuel filter from my e28 to the e21 and see if it will start. Then I'll see if i can swap the inline fuel pump from my e28 to the e21. This is the first time any one has done anything with the the car for 4-5 years so im not suprised little problems like this are showing up. Well as long as its not some fried connections in my ecu or hairline fractures on the coil or distributor cap. Well actually it would've started cause the car is completely cooled off so the hairline fractures if there were any would have closed up already...... I bet its the fuel filter and pump....Wait do the e21s have two* fuel filters??????? Its a cluster of 4 which has got me wondering

Kyle in NO · Post by **Kyle in NO** » Mar 15, 2013 1:04 AM

Don't waste your time. The fuel pump and filter are not the same. Hell, hardly anything from your e28 will work on this car.

caleb 87 535is · Post by **caleb 87 535is** » Mar 15, 2013 1:06 AM

Kyle in NO wrote:Don't waste your time. The fuel pump and filter are not the same. Hell, hardly anything from your e28 will work on this car.

The fuel filters look pretty much identical i dont really think theres much difference. It has an e28 air intake on it.
Theres allot about this car that has me pondering questions all day. The spedometer is on the left and the rev counter is on the right. Its pulls like a mad man through all 5 gears and never stops pulling.

Kyle in NO · Post by **Kyle in NO** » Mar 15, 2013 1:11 AM

caleb 87 535is wrote:
Kyle in NO wrote:Don't waste your time. The fuel pump and filter are not the same. Hell, hardly anything from your e28 will work on this car.
The fuel filters look pretty much identical i dont really think theres much difference. It has an e28 air intake on it.

Cool. Do whatever you want.

caleb 87 535is · Post by **caleb 87 535is** » Mar 15, 2013 1:16 AM

Kyle in NO wrote:
caleb 87 535is wrote:
Kyle in NO wrote:Don't waste your time. The fuel pump and filter are not the same. Hell, hardly anything from your e28 will work on this car.
The fuel filters look pretty much identical i dont really think theres much difference. It has an e28 air intake on it.
Cool. Do whatever you want.

Never mind that wasn't the fuel filter. Man i hate working in the dark. I gotta get back to work this blows..

lilpoindexter · Post by **lilpoindexter** » Mar 15, 2013 8:18 AM

Post some pics man.

Mr.3-5-7 · Post by **Mr.3-5-7** » Mar 15, 2013 10:22 AM

first off, the k-jet fuel pump is putting out more pressure than your e28's. next, what do you mean it has a e28 intake? Post pictures of all these things.

And you car, if left stock, should have two fuel filters and two pumps. one of each inside the tank and one of each outside above the right rear axle in a cluster. In this cluster you also have an accumulator, if that go bad you will have hard warm starts and kinda hard cold starts.

for any e21 that has been sitting for more than a year do a complete fuel system refresh. that involves:

cleaning the tanks
installing or cleaning new pumps
install new filter and possibly accumulator
flush out lines
clean air flow meter
clean out fuel distributor. remove plunger to make sure there is no damage or that it doesnt stick. also under each injector line there is a little filter, remove those
clean out the WUR.
Inspect each injector and seal. if necessary do a flow test on each one.

new cap and rotor
new spark plugs and wires.

this is the price you pay for buying a e21 that has been sitting for a while.

caleb 87 535is · Post by **caleb 87 535is** » Mar 15, 2013 11:40 AM

Mr.3-5-7 wrote:first off, the k-jet fuel pump is putting out more pressure than your e28's. next, what do you mean it has a e28 intake? Post pictures of all these things.

And you car, if left stock, should have two fuel filters and two pumps. one of each inside the tank and one of each outside above the right rear axle in a cluster. In this cluster you also have an accumulator, if that go bad you will have hard warm starts and kinda hard cold starts.

for any e21 that has been sitting for more than a year do a complete fuel system refresh. that involves:

cleaning the tanks
installing or cleaning new pumps
install new filter and possibly accumulator
flush out lines
clean air flow meter
clean out fuel distributor. remove plunger to make sure there is no damage or that it doesnt stick. also under each injector line there is a little filter, remove those
clean out the WUR.
Inspect each injector and seal. if necessary do a flow test on each one.

new cap and rotor
new spark plugs and wires.

this is the price you pay for buying a e21 that has been sitting for a while.

Thanks man Ill get right on it. Ill work on the pics. They should be up later today if i can get them to post. Ill work on getting the spark plugs and wires. I have never done a fuel system Refresh. I'll need some pointers on that. I also have everything to do an oil change and such. How hard is it to drop the tank if all you have is 4 jack stands and a floor jack?? I have basic and minimal tools right now. Any and all pointers are welcome and I will have photos up soon. Also Its sitting kinda funny. I figured the suspension should've settled but it hasn't from when i was under it yesterday...... Little worried about that.

caleb 87 535is · Post by **caleb 87 535is** » Mar 15, 2013 6:12 PM

Im missing the fuel tank vent charcoal canister having of never heard of this. How important is that canister? Cause i dont have the funds to buy one.

caleb 87 535is · Post by **caleb 87 535is** » Mar 15, 2013 8:21 PM

Mr.3-5-7 wrote:

clean out the WUR.

WUR???? And I found a place where i can buy everything for just over 200$ with shipping

caleb 87 535is · Post by **caleb 87 535is** » Mar 15, 2013 10:03 PM

The gold topper in the back ground is for sale. It was on the chevy we had.
I don't remember What all it fits exactly. Ill have more info if any one is interested.

Post by **mooseheadm5** » Mar 15, 2013 10:08 PM

Everything in those pictures looks exactly as I would have thought.

caleb 87 535is · Post by **caleb 87 535is** » Mar 15, 2013 10:09 PM

mooseheadm5 wrote:Everything in those pictures looks exactly as I would have thought.

Now does that mean i did a good job explaining it or am i just confused and disorientated.

Greg E34 · Post by **Greg E34** » Mar 15, 2013 10:12 PM

mooseheadm5 wrote:Everything in those pictures looks exactly as I would have thought.

Oh dear. Missed out on this one. Thanks for the read.

caleb 87 535is · Post by **caleb 87 535is** » Mar 15, 2013 10:13 PM

I'm Missing something.....What are you guys hiding?

Mr.3-5-7 · Post by **Mr.3-5-7** » Mar 15, 2013 10:24 PM

oh yeah thats the most stock e21 engine bay ive ever seen. the "WUR" is the warm up regulator, it regulates the fuel pressure to the fuel distributor. If it is gummed up you wont have the correct fuel/air mix during warm up.

The tanks are easy enough to drop, as long as they are empty. just disconnect all the lines (dont forget the ones under the rear seat.) and take out the bolts that hold them up.

the charcoal canister is not important. its emissions related. as long as you dont live in an emissions county just make sure the vent line that runs under the passenger side of the car is plugged as well as the the port on the intake that it used to connect to.

caleb 87 535is · Post by **caleb 87 535is** » Mar 15, 2013 10:37 PM

Mr.3-5-7 wrote:oh yeah thats the most stock e21 engine bay ive ever seen. the "WUR" is the warm up regulator, it regulates the fuel pressure to the fuel distributor. If it is gummed up you wont have the correct fuel/air mix during warm up.

The tanks are easy enough to drop, as long as they are empty. just disconnect all the lines (dont forget the ones under the rear seat.) and take out the bolts that hold them up.

the charcoal canister is not important. its emissions related. as long as you dont live in an emissions county just make sure the vent line that runs under the passenger side of the car is plugged as well as the the port on the intake that it used to connect to.

Well then im stumped as to why it pulled my buddys mustang on the highway? his car has more power in it than this little car. Yea the gas tanks full........Alright ill do that. After I get it running better im going to clean up the engine bay and delete the vacuum lines that are not needed. Wyoming has no emissions so im not worried about that at all.

Kyle in NO · Post by **Kyle in NO** » Mar 16, 2013 12:08 AM

What vacuum hoses are not needed? These cars dont really have any unneeded ones.

BTW, that is a junkyard engine, not a new one. Sorry. Maybe your buddy's Mustang sucks.

caleb 87 535is · Post by **caleb 87 535is** » Mar 16, 2013 12:32 AM

Kyle in NO wrote:What vacuum hoses are not needed? These cars dont really have any unneeded ones.

BTW, that is a junkyard engine, not a new one. Sorry. Maybe your buddy's Mustang sucks.

The intake is from a junkyard..... No his mustang dynos at 450bhp. Still way more than what this car is supposed to be.
low for the suposed legendary mustang.
* I'll be capping any vacuum lines that are not needed like the ones for emmissions.

tschultz · Post by **tschultz** » Mar 16, 2013 2:43 AM

Are you saying this e21 is faster than your e28?

Your e28 must be in real bad shape--- the M10 from an e21 can't be that quick unless it has a turbo or something...

mtnman533 · Post by **mtnman533** » Mar 16, 2013 6:29 AM

Having driven one for a while... they're light, but make 110bhp at best on a stock motor. That one, probably 80-100 tops. With a built engine and turbo, some do push that to the 200 mark, with 1 or two hitting 250ish. Even then, pulling a 450hp mustang ain't happening. It just isn't. Your friend with the stang either let you win, or has the slowest 450hp stang ever built.

These will hang with stock e30s pretty well, even 325i's in the twisties because of the weight difference, but... my 533 was easily faster than my e21.

... how much did you pay for that bundle of bad paint and dirt?

1st 5er · Post by **1st 5er** » Mar 16, 2013 10:56 AM

mooseheadm5 wrote:Everything in those pictures looks exactly as I would have thought.

Great minds... NTTAWWT

caleb 87 535is · Post by **caleb 87 535is** » Mar 16, 2013 12:02 PM

mtnman533 wrote:Having driven one for a while... they're light, but make 110bhp at best on a stock motor. That one, probably 80-100 tops. With a built engine and turbo, some do push that to the 200 mark, with 1 or two hitting 250ish. Even then, pulling a 450hp mustang ain't happening. It just isn't. Your friend with the stang either let you win, or has the slowest 450hp stang ever built.

These will hang with stock e30s pretty well, even 325i's in the twisties because of the weight difference, but... my 533 was easily faster than my e21.

... how much did you pay for that bundle of bad paint and dirt?

There is a whistle sound like a turbo but theres no evidence of there being one. And it would have to be a very small turbo since there is no intercooler. I thought i had a leak some where but I can't find any cracks or such. His mustang is pretty fast. And theres no blow off valve. And i paid 1800. there has been some work to it done previously.

mtnman533 · Post by **mtnman533** » Mar 16, 2013 1:00 PM

urhm, no, no turbo... at all. That is a very stock engine bay, it even has a stock air box. You can even see where the air goes into the box.

The intake on an M10 is considerably louder than most, hence the "whistle" noise.

caleb 87 535is · Post by **caleb 87 535is** » Mar 16, 2013 2:03 PM

mtnman533 wrote:urhm, no, no turbo... at all. That is a very stock engine bay, it even has a stock air box. You can even see where the air goes into the box.

The intake on an M10 is considerably louder than most, hence the "whistle" noise.

Alright well that solves the problem. I didn't think it had a turbo. What would be the best upgrade for the airbox on the e21??

WilNJ · Post by **WilNJ** » Mar 16, 2013 2:22 PM

caleb 87 535is wrote:Alright well that solves the problem. I didn't think it had a turbo. What would be the best upgrade for the airbox on the e21??

Can if offer a piece of unsolicited advice?

I'm assuming you're young, no mortgage or kids. If I'm wrong I apologize.

You bought a car that's likely a bit of POS. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I wish I had done it when I had the chance but I always thought I should get the responsible, reliable transportation to get to and from work. Well after 20+ years of driving appliances, I can tell you, confidently, it blows.

Don't try to upgrade or mod you car to get respect at the local GTG.

Focus on making sure the car goes properly, stops properly and turns properly. Forget about how it looks for now or who you can beat in a drag race with a 40 year old, NA 4 cyl.

Before too long, you may be surprised to find out that you have a pretty cool car, you may even get a nod from an old dude (like 40 or something) that wants to talk about his E21.

And if someday you're ready to move on to something different, you'll be able to sell your sorted out Bimmer for at least the money you paid for it. The cost of repairs and maintenance being your only transportation costs outside of fuel and insurance.

1st 5er · Post by **1st 5er** » Mar 16, 2013 2:50 PM

Sensibility, in this thread =

.

caleb 87 535is · Post by **caleb 87 535is** » Mar 16, 2013 2:51 PM

I just wanna get rid of the stock airbox. I hate dealing with the latches and getting it back into its place. I have the parts to get it running ordered and im just waiting for them to arrive so i can get it running. The compression is 135 on all 4 cylinders. I ordered ngk iridium spark plugs performance spark plug wires a new distributor cap and rotor. I dont have the money to replace the fuel pumps.