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good point. I will take the northern route.

alijonny wrote:good point. I will take the northern route.

3 1/2 hours door to door from Port Huron Ali. Its all highway.

From Sarnia take 402 east to 401 east to 403 Hamilton to QEW Toronto and get off at exit 126/Erin Mills Parkway/Southdown Road.

Ted in T.O. wrote:

alijonny wrote:good point. I will take the northern route.

3 1/2 hours door to door from Port Huron Ali. Its all highway.

Total distance is just under 300 km, so 2 hours at an average speed of 130 km/hr.

Mark in Toronto wrote:

Ted in T.O. wrote:

alijonny wrote:good point. I will take the northern route.

3 1/2 hours door to door from Port Huron Ali. Its all highway.

Total distance is just under 300 km, so 2 hours at an average speed of 130 km/hr.

What's the speed that gets you in "big trouble" in GTA these days?

Jeremy wrote:

Mark in Toronto wrote:

Ted in T.O. wrote:

alijonny wrote:good point. I will take the northern route.

3 1/2 hours door to door from Port Huron Ali. Its all highway.

Total distance is just under 300 km, so 2 hours at an average speed of 130 km/hr.

What's the speed that gets you in "big trouble" in GTA these days?

Big trouble anywhere in Ontario is 50 km/hr over the posted speed limit.

Penalties for street racing, stunt driving and driving 50 km/h or over the speed limit

Pre-conviction – Immediate 7-day licence suspension and 7-day vehicle impoundment

Upon conviction - $2,000 to $10,000 fine, 6 demerit points, up to 6 months jail, up to 2 years licence suspension for a first conviction

Stay below 120km/h on the 402 and 401.

Eddie in TO wrote:Stay below 120km/h on the 402 and 401.

Why????? Anything under 120 km/hr and you might as well be going backwards.

I just did a round trip to Windsor on the 401 this past weekend and averaged 130 - 140 km/hr. Sure I saw a few black and whites, all of which were out in the open, nothing hidden.

do they radar the same as in the U.S. or do they use speed cameras?

Mark in Toronto wrote:

Eddie in TO wrote:Stay below 120km/h on the 402 and 401.

Why?????

I just did a round trip to Windsor on the 401 this past weekend and averaged 130 - 140 km/hr.

Travelers who don't frequent these highways will not know the typical OPP hiding spots. I've seen some clever locations this past year alone.
They sometimes sit in the u-turn openings along the center of the highway 402, behind center pillars under an overpass, and standing behind an overpass sign with a laser (and a few cruisers down the road waiting). The last one behind the sign is slick as you only see a partial shoulder and head profile from a distance.
I've also seen them along the side of the road on an on-ramp…typically sitting right at the very top/start of the ramp.

OPP has a tendency of pulling drivers speeding at 120km/h and higher, therefore I suggest they travel below that speed unless they're feeling lucky.

alijonny wrote:do they radar the same as in the U.S. or do they use speed cameras?

No speed cameras, but IIRC, use of radar/ladar detection devices is universally prohibited in Canada.

Jeremy wrote:

alijonny wrote:do they radar the same as in the U.S. or do they use speed cameras?

No speed cameras, but IIRC, use of radar/ladar detection devices is universally prohibited in Canada.

Correct, no radar/laser detection devises are to be used in Ontario. I believe there may be some Provinces that still allow radar/laser detectors.

I've witnessed an OPP officer holding what appeared to be a radar detector device (also had the wires tangling) at the side of the highway 401 west of 402 many years ago. The vehicle he pulled over had Ohio plates.

hmmm. ok. and for tolls, will ezpass/ipass work? Are CB radios legit?

Eddie in TO wrote:

Mark in Toronto wrote:

Eddie in TO wrote:Stay below 120km/h on the 402 and 401.

Why?????

I just did a round trip to Windsor on the 401 this past weekend and averaged 130 - 140 km/hr.

OPP has a tendency of pulling drivers speeding at 120km/h and higher, therefore I suggest they travel below that speed unless they're feeling lucky.

Eddie,

Luck has nothing to do with it. Simply apply common sense and wind speeds over 120 are fine.

Now, if you are talking about a force that brings good fortune or adversity, then this game depends on luck.

alijonny wrote:hmmm. ok. and for tolls, will ezpass/ipass work? Are CB radios legit?

Other than the toll you'll encounter at the border, there's a toll highway called the '407ETR'. The EZpass/ipass will not work on that toll highway. They have signs showing that out-of-towners will be billed.

Unless you're driving a commercial vehicle, the use of CB radios are not permitted. AFAIK, you can have a CB radio in your car...but law enforcement just can't see you using it.
Hand held wireless devices such as cell phones, iPods, etc. are also not permitted.

Eddie in TO wrote:Unless you're driving a commercial vehicle, the use of CB radios are not permitted.

That's right. I had the Midland in my car for the trip down the 401 last weekend. I was not communicating but simply listening to the "conversations" between truckers.

Eddie in TO wrote:

alijonny wrote:hmmm. ok. and for tolls, will ezpass/ipass work? Are CB radios legit?

Other than the toll you'll encounter at the border, there's a toll highway called the '407ETR'. The EZpass/ipass will not work on that toll highway. They have signs showing that out-of-towners will be billed.

Unless you're driving a commercial vehicle, the use of CB radios are not permitted. AFAIK, you can have a CB radio in your car...but law enforcement just can't see you using it.
Hand held wireless devices such as cell phones, iPods, etc. are also not permitted.

Great, I love places anal about that.

Please tell me GPS units stuck to your windshield and blueteeth are kosher?

Cactus wrote: Please tell me GPS units stuck to your windshield and blueteeth are kosher?

they're kosher...

Eddie in TO wrote:

Jeremy wrote:

alijonny wrote:do they radar the same as in the U.S. or do they use speed cameras?

No speed cameras, but IIRC, use of radar/ladar detection devices is universally prohibited in Canada.

Correct, no radar/laser detection devises are to be used in Ontario. I believe there may be some Provinces that still allow radar/laser detectors.

I've witnessed an OPP officer holding what appeared to be a radar detector device (also had the wires tangling) at the side of the highway 401 west of 402 many years ago. The vehicle he pulled over had Ohio plates.

That's why it's a good idea to keep an old, out of date unit in the car. Simply hand it over if pulled over.

Ted in T.O. wrote:Where are you driving from Matt? Iowa? Check your mileage.

Yea from Iowa. You want to know how far it is or are you suggesting I can't make it in the time I said? =)

its < 800 miles and since I'll be doing most of it over night if it takes me more than 11 hours of driving I'd be surprised. Will probably only stop to sleep for a couple hours at the most.

Next year.......no July 4th weekend. That is my anniversary.

It's the birthday that you don't miss Duke. Anniversaries are okay to miss. Fly in to Buffalo and fly back out the day of.

Oh by the way Eric and Pam made it safely to Toronto.

Eddie in TO wrote:

alijonny wrote:hmmm. ok. and for tolls, will ezpass/ipass work? Are CB radios legit?

Other than the toll you'll encounter at the border, there's a toll highway called the '407ETR'. The EZpass/ipass will not work on that toll highway. They have signs showing that out-of-towners will be billed.

Unless you're driving a commercial vehicle, the use of CB radios are not permitted. AFAIK, you can have a CB radio in your car...but law enforcement just can't see you using it.
Hand held wireless devices such as cell phones, iPods, etc. are also not permitted.

Wait, this isn't true at all. There is no requirement about a commercial vehicle to use a CB radio. They are good to go for everyone. Hense the name citizens band...

Now the only weird one is our wireless law (no cell phone unless hands free while driving), and this law includes CB radios (kind of), but that's for everyone including commercial vehicles. I doubt the police would enforce it for a wired CB though. Its a really grey area as its wired directly into your car.

So just to be clear, in regards to ipods, mp3 players and cell phones, its not the device that's banned, its the use of wireless devices while driving. Lots of states have that law though.

Mark in Toronto wrote:

Eddie in TO wrote:

Mark in Toronto wrote:

Eddie in TO wrote:Stay below 120km/h on the 402 and 401.

Why?????

I just did a round trip to Windsor on the 401 this past weekend and averaged 130 - 140 km/hr.

OPP has a tendency of pulling drivers speeding at 120km/h and higher, therefore I suggest they travel below that speed unless they're feeling lucky.

Eddie,

Luck has nothing to do with it. Simply apply common sense and wind speeds over 120 are fine.

Now, if you are talking about a force that brings good fortune or adversity, then this game depends on luck.

And in regards to the 120km limit, I have driven these highways from Sarina to Toronto thousands of times. If you are going 120 you are going too slow. Especially from London to Kitchener Waterloo area. There is NOTHING there. Traffic generally moves at 130 and sometimes higher.

My suggestion is go with the flow of traffic. It generally moves fast enough.

Enough of this FUD...

Wooohoooo, hump day...four days to go!

KillerPM wrote:

Eddie in TO wrote:

alijonny wrote:hmmm. ok. and for tolls, will ezpass/ipass work? Are CB radios legit?

Other than the toll you'll encounter at the border, there's a toll highway called the '407ETR'. The EZpass/ipass will not work on that toll highway. They have signs showing that out-of-towners will be billed.

Unless you're driving a commercial vehicle, the use of CB radios are not permitted. AFAIK, you can have a CB radio in your car...but law enforcement just can't see you using it.
Hand held wireless devices such as cell phones, iPods, etc. are also not permitted.

Wait, this isn't true at all. There is no requirement about a commercial vehicle to use a CB radio. They are good to go for everyone. Hense the name citizens band...

Now the only weird one is our wireless law (no cell phone unless hands free while driving), and this law includes CB radios (kind of), but that's for everyone including commercial vehicles. I doubt the police would enforce it for a wired CB though. Its a really grey area as its wired directly into your car.

So just to be clear, in regards to ipods, mp3 players and cell phones, its not the device that's banned, its the use of wireless devices while driving. Lots of states have that law though.

Pete,

Here's how the law currently stands with respect to CB's:

Truck drivers who use CB radios to communicate are able to continue to use those radios for at least another three years, despite the new distracted driving legislation.

The legislation, which came into effect in October, bans
talking, texting or using an MP3 player or GPS unit while driving. As of Monday, violators face $155 tickets.

Stephen Conners, a dispatcher with Glenn Windrem Trucking on Whittington Dr. in Lindsay, said the legislation allows professional truck drivers use of CB sets.

After about three years, he said, those sets will be replaced by hands-free CB sets.

http://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/ ... chive=true



And, only two more days before the Ted Festival begins. Can't wait!

Mark in Toronto wrote:

KillerPM wrote:

Eddie in TO wrote:

alijonny wrote:hmmm. ok. and for tolls, will ezpass/ipass work? Are CB radios legit?

Other than the toll you'll encounter at the border, there's a toll highway called the '407ETR'. The EZpass/ipass will not work on that toll highway. They have signs showing that out-of-towners will be billed.

Unless you're driving a commercial vehicle, the use of CB radios are not permitted. AFAIK, you can have a CB radio in your car...but law enforcement just can't see you using it.
Hand held wireless devices such as cell phones, iPods, etc. are also not permitted.

Wait, this isn't true at all. There is no requirement about a commercial vehicle to use a CB radio. They are good to go for everyone. Hense the name citizens band...

Now the only weird one is our wireless law (no cell phone unless hands free while driving), and this law includes CB radios (kind of), but that's for everyone including commercial vehicles. I doubt the police would enforce it for a wired CB though. Its a really grey area as its wired directly into your car.

So just to be clear, in regards to ipods, mp3 players and cell phones, its not the device that's banned, its the use of wireless devices while driving. Lots of states have that law though.

Pete,

Here's how the law currently stands with respect to CB's:

Truck drivers who use CB radios to communicate are able to continue to use those radios for at least another three years, despite the new distracted driving legislation.

The legislation, which came into effect in October, bans
talking, texting or using an MP3 player or GPS unit while driving. As of Monday, violators face $155 tickets.

Stephen Conners, a dispatcher with Glenn Windrem Trucking on Whittington Dr. in Lindsay, said the legislation allows professional truck drivers use of CB sets.

After about three years, he said, those sets will be replaced by hands-free CB sets.

http://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/ ... chive=true



And, only two more days before the Ted Festival begins. Can't wait!

Ahh, so they gave commercial vehicles an exemption of the hands free law on CBs..

I wouldn't worry too much about the hands free law... Not a whole lot of people seem to get charged with it. People do, just lot a lot.

Mark in Toronto wrote: And, only two more days before the Ted Festival begins. Can't wait!

Great to see you're jumping into Tedfest early this year!

Eddie in TO wrote:

Mark in Toronto wrote: And, only two more days before the Ted Festival begins. Can't wait!

Great to see you're jumping into Tedfest early this year!

Thanks Eddie! I'm dying with anticipation. Last year was the first year I missed the Ted Festival due to a cottage/diving trip.

And, I heard there was a raffle at last year's event. Cool. Looking forward to picking up some prizes. Hopefully the proceeds from the raffle will be going to a good charity.

Made a few minor repairs to the e28 this afternoon. Packing for the trip. Leaving tomorrow evening and driving until 11PM. Arriving Friday afternoon at Ted's!