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Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Mar 20, 2016 11:08 AM
by stefankj
Hi guys
Getting ready to crank up my engine after rebuild, It is a M30b35 with turbo goodies. I was recomended by a fellow bmw guru to use royal purple special synthetic break in oil for the first 1000miles. I'm wondering what other people have used as a break in oil ?
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Mar 20, 2016 9:08 PM
by darbyhood
just standard oil
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Mar 20, 2016 9:35 PM
by M. Holtmeier
I use whatever oil I'll be using for the life of the engine. I drain it after 100 or so miles to check for metal, etc, then again after 500 miles. If that looks good, I put it in regular maintenance intervals.
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Mar 21, 2016 4:38 PM
by Mark 88/M5 Houston
I'd use a good quality dino oil with a couple of short use change intervals, like 50 and 300 miles. I'd also open the used filters and inspect for any metal, also check the drain pan for any shiney bits.
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Mar 21, 2016 6:17 PM
by Shadow
Mark 88/M5 Houston wrote:I'd use a good quality dino oil
What would be a bad quality oil? :P
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Mar 21, 2016 7:52 PM
by Mark 88/M5 Houston
Shadow wrote:Mark 88/M5 Houston wrote:I'd use a good quality dino oil
What would be a bad quality oil? :P
Maybe a recycled store brand dino oil that is $0.49 a Quart.
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Mar 21, 2016 9:15 PM
by jlucas
brad penn break in oil
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Mar 22, 2016 7:24 AM
by al525i
I use lucas oil break in additive and a good filter. I'll change the filter at 500 miles then do a oil and filter change at 1000 miles. After that I run normal oil and service intervals
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Mar 25, 2016 9:18 AM
by totheredline
I used a zinc additive and non detergent 30 weight. Switched to rotella 15-40 diesel oil after about 1500 miles.
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Mar 26, 2016 8:00 PM
by Shadow
I've heard to put some atf in the cylinders to break it in faster.
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Mar 26, 2016 10:06 PM
by EventuallyAyrton
Shadow wrote:I've heard to put some atf in the cylinders to break it in faster.
That seems like a bad idea if you're running a wasted spark system
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Mar 28, 2016 12:30 PM
by Shadow
why?
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Mar 28, 2016 2:17 PM
by EventuallyAyrton
Because ATF is explosive so cylinders would be going through an ignition stroke when they're not supposed to
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Jun 14, 2016 10:53 AM
by turbodan
totheredline wrote:I used a zinc additive and non detergent 30 weight. Switched to rotella 15-40 diesel oil after about 1500 miles.
That's a head scratcher. You can go buy VR1 20w50 at any number of auto parts chain stores. Great oil for assembly lube, break in and the next hundred thousand miles of operation.
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Jun 14, 2016 11:02 AM
by EventuallyAyrton
turbodan wrote:totheredline wrote:I used a zinc additive and non detergent 30 weight. Switched to rotella 15-40 diesel oil after about 1500 miles.
That's a head scratcher. You can go buy VR1 20w50 at any number of auto parts chain stores. Great oil for assembly lube, break in and the next hundred thousand miles of operation.
Diseasel oil is also great. Lots and lots of zinc to keep all those big diesel engines happy as clams
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Jun 14, 2016 12:26 PM
by turbodan
You would think. Newer CJ-4 diesel oils have reduced ZDDP levels. Not as bad as most automotive API SM/SN oils but still sub-optimal. VR-1 20w50 comes with 1400ppm Zinc according to their current product data sheet and is a more appropriate viscosity than a 10w30 or 15w40 diesel oil.
Still no reason to run anything else year round unless you live right up on the northern border. In very cold climates I would only run VR-1 in the summer months.
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Jun 14, 2016 2:21 PM
by EventuallyAyrton
turbodan wrote:You would think. Newer CJ-4 diesel oils have reduced ZDDP levels. Not as bad as most automotive API SM/SN oils but still sub-optimal. VR-1 20w50 comes with 1400ppm Zinc according to their current product data sheet and is a more appropriate viscosity than a 10w30 or 15w40 diesel oil.
Still no reason to run anything else year round unless you live right up on the northern border. In very cold climates I would only run VR-1 in the summer months.
The issue with the VR1 is that it's becoming discontinued all over the US because it's used so infrequently. There are a ton of articles and even a post or two on here about it
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Jun 14, 2016 4:34 PM
by turbodan
That's a shame if true. I'm still sitting on several cases from the last time it went on sale.
Valvoline is still making it though, so it' going to be available somewhere.
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Jun 14, 2016 4:40 PM
by EventuallyAyrton
turbodan wrote:That's a shame if true. I'm still sitting on several cases from the last time it went on sale.
Valvoline is still making it though, so it' going to be available somewhere.
Somewhere. But if it just ends up being available online for $10/quart, I wouldn't pay for it. I stopped buying it because the only place to get it around here was Advanced Auto and now they no longer sell it. Starting last oil change, I'm using Mobil1 15w50 and I'm loving it. It's the perfect year round oil for these cars, in my opinion of course.
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Jun 14, 2016 6:24 PM
by turbodan
Mobil 1 is around 1200ppm. Marginal protection when fresh and its downhill from there. Not good enough to provide satisfactory wear protection though the whole oil change interval. The stuff ain't cheap either. I'd still mail order VR1 between those two if it came down to it.
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Jun 14, 2016 6:27 PM
by tig
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Jun 14, 2016 11:14 PM
by Shadow
11 bucks. suck my dick.
Re: Break in oil after rebuild
Posted: Jun 15, 2016 2:19 PM
by Chimi-Changa
totheredline wrote:I used a zinc additive and non detergent 30 weight. Switched to rotella 15-40 diesel oil after about 1500 miles.
I'll be using this oil on a rebuilt motor