szacsi72's 1984 Zinnoberrot 535i Build
Posted: Nov 18, 2022 9:05 AM
###REPOST - ORIGINAL GOT LOST DUE TO SERVER ERROR###
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Car's current specs & plans as of 27.03.2024:
Exterior:
-Zinobberrot E28 EURO
-Original shadowline trim
-Original M5 front valance
-Original M5 rear wing
-Custom Black-Hella headlights
-E34 M5 Style 20 8J all around, wrapped in 205/40R17 Nankang NS2R, brushed lips and Diamantshwarz Metallic spokes
-20mm spacers all around, converted to studs
-Original BMW Vintage Emblems
Interior:
-Original sports steering wheel wrapped in Nappa leather, extra padding, red stitching
-DIY red needles
-E34 M5 cloth seats
-Red seatbelts
-Custom full 7 way stereo setup - TO DO
-Headliner wrapped in black leather
-Full reupholstery with M-rain fabric and black leather - TO DO
Suspension and handling:
-Custom coilovers
-35i sway bars
-Poly RTABs and subframe bushings
-30mm Gangl Motorsports RC Spacers
-Brembo 4-piston radial calipers @ 330x24mm custom slotted rotors
-Porsche 911 2-piston calipers @ 300x20mm custom slotted rotors
-E32 750i MC with 18i booster
-Reinforced steering box pin - TO DO
-E34 aluminium front lower control arms with spherical bushings - TO DO
-E28 front upper arms with E34 M5 bushings - TO DO
Engine and drivetrain: - TO DO
-M30B35 from E32 735i
-KM Cams Steg2 292°
-KM Cams billet steel lifters
-Custom cam locks
-Raised compression 9.8:1
-Modified M30B35 pistons
-440cc Bosch Green giants
-M30B35 flipped intake adapted to 80mm TB
-Custom 80mm induction piping
-AFM delete - Bosch Motorsport PST1 IAT/MAP instead
-Megasquirt MS3++ running fully sequential ignition and injection both, map switch, launch control
-Bosch LSU 4.9 Wideband
-Distributor delete - 6x Audi Red Top coils
-VW Polo ICV
-M106 knock sensors
-Schmiedmann Headers
-2x50mm exhaust - ?? Mufflers - TO DO
-3.64 LSD rebuilt to 40% - TO DO
-Getrag 260/6
-Billet steel E28 M5 6kg flywheel
-E28 M5 Sachs clutch kit with stainless steel pivot
-E46 heater valve
-E28 535i radiator with E34 535i overflow
-Shaved engine bay, custom fuse/relay plate, motorsport spec wiring with bulkhead connector
-Power figures: expecting roughly 275HP crank - Under construction!
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Hey everyone!
Allow me to introduce myself. My name's Dave, I'm a mechanical engineer from Hungary, EU. I've had a coupla bimmers before, and always wanted an E28, but something was always wrong. Finance, no place, no time, no good deals.. So on. After multiple years, my luck finally came and I've found an E28 for sale and bought it the very day I've sold my E21 318i on the 8th of August, 2021.
You may read the story of the car before I got it, here:
http://capabmwforum.hu/index.php/topic,1465.0.html
The car came to me as an 528i, and was mostly rebuilt, using two E28's - A 518i for the shell, and a 528i for the drivetrain, suspension, brakes etc.
The car's been repainted in 2013, the colour she's wearing is Zinnoberrot, which you would normally find on an M5 or an M535i (in my experience, anyway), finished with an M5 front lip, full shadowline (original, not painted chrome), an M5 rear spoiler, essentially an M5 replica - other than I'm rocking different wheels, and Black Hellas.
The car was pretty good condition, but it has/had some small issues, mostly with electronics, and the drivetrain was(is) pretty worn. Since I got my hands on it, I fixed a lot of small errors, and made some small finishing touches, such as small trim pieces and interior bits. Other than these, the main changes were that I've changed the OZ Futuras to E34 M5 Style 20's, naked. I've always wanted a set like this, and the Futura's were too much for my taste. The rims got refinished in BMW Diamantschwarz paint and brushed + clear coated lips; I'm running NS2R semislicks in 205/40R17 size all around, with 20mm spacers and converted the car to studs.
The main difference is that I've swapped the engine to an M30B35 from an E32. It's been semi-rebuilt, and I've tried to make the already clean engine bay even clearer. The engine is mostly stock apart from a chip, a very-mild cam, and a flipped intake.
Now, let me give you an overview of the plan and my goals.
In short, I'd like to keep this car a stock-ish, OEM+ 535i. The main goal is to fix all it's problems, and to modernize it in a sensible, nice fashioned way. I'd like to use this car to make roadtrips and just generally cruise around, no racing, tracking or anything else. However, I do like to build my cars well.. So I'll probably go overkill on many bits, just because I love creating and making things right.
Here are the main issues I'm facing right now:
No heating
No feedback on my temp gauge
Drivetrain is completely fucked, basically need to rebuild everything. It's wobbly, loud and the whole car shakes..
Tranny and clutch are noisy
Engine runs like shit, cylinder head is worn, needs a rebuild.
So now let's walk over my plans. This is just a feeler, I'll get into more details when I'm actually discussing the given topic.
• Fix the drivetrain
○ Rebuild the LSD, potentially swap to a higher gearing (3.46 right now)
○ Rebuild the driveshaft, replace CSB
○ Rebuild the axle-shafts
○ Rebuild the transmission (input shaft bearing is dead)
○ Repair the flywheel? (I'm not sure of the condition, need to see first)
○ Change the complete clutch (actually, it's only the throwout bearing that needs replacement, but a complete new 'OEM' Sachs clutch kit is around 150USD, so I'll just change it for the piece of mind; might get is kevlar'd too)
• Rebuild the suspension
○ Change poly bushings to E34 M5 RTABs, front's to E31 and mooseheads, etc
○ Make new coilovers (running custom coilovers, but the springs are too stiff and the damping is too soft.)
I'm going for 6k front, 5k rear, the mechanical part will be done by me, and the damping will be dialed in by a professional in my country.
○ New top hats, front is worn, the rear one is the stock, shitty rubber that I dislike a lot.
• Upgrade the brakes
○ Now, this is totally useless, the brakes I have now (E34 300mm front, E28 286mm disc rear, 528i main cyl with 518i brake servo) works fantastic;however, the discs are a touch worn, so a complete brake service is near Anyway. I wanted to fill up the space behind the Style 20's, so I'm making a complete big brake kit using 4 and 2 pot brembos - This is almost finished, I'll probably create a detailed post next week when everythings ready. I'll probably start selling this BBK later too, if you're interested..
• Do something with the exhaust
○ TBH, I really don't know yet.
○ I like the stock exhaust, I want to trip with this car, so I don't want anything loud, but I'm losing on weight and performance. Might keep stock, might make a "replica" of the stock system, just with 2x60mm, might get a full performance exhaust… We'll see.
○ I also need to make/buy some shielding, as this is missing right now, the stock shielding is pretty much destroyed..
• Rebuild the engine
○ The engine needs a partial rebuild, mostly on the cylinder head, so I'll rebuild it, but of course, OEM+ way.
○ Aftermarket ECU - Probably maxxecu street. I would like something more modern than the motronic, as I'm missing out on torque, fuel efficiency, feedback, tune-abilty.. Everything. And most importantly, I truly hate the AFM. It is so inefficient, inaccurate and takes up so much space in my engine bay!
○ Cylinder head will recieve a 284 schrick cam, HD rockers, rocker lockers.
○ Engine block and cylinder head will be shaved to increase compression.
○ Hopefully everything is OK in the bottom end.. If not, I'll end up creating a stroker, with oversized high compression NA pistons.
○ Put in more modern, bigger injectors. I have some Saab (or what) injectors that are a perfect replacement for the stock units, just newer and come with 4 holes.
○ M50 throttle body in place of the M30 unit - same diameter, but better cable routing options for my flipped intake
○ Coils? I'm not sure, I'll probably borrow a set from someone and see if there's any real power difference with them. I don't really fancy them, I'd really like to keep the stock-ish look, but also don't want to miss out on performance. I'm running an M5 Bosch coil as of now.
○ A crank scraper
○ Serpentine belt conversion (custom made, this is also in developement and once done, it will be up for sale)
○ Possibly and oil cooler? I'll just keep and eye on oil temps, won't add anything unnecessary.
• Small bits
○ I have a couple of small things I'd like to touch up, such as:
○ Red seatbelts
○ Reupholster the rear seats and door card to match my E34 sport seats
○ Rebuild and repair my M5 front valance
I think this is it for now.
I'll be using hashtags at the beginning of my posts, so the thread will be easier to see trough!
Thank you for joining! If you have any questions, let me know.
Until next time
Dave
*Updated with specs
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Car's current specs & plans as of 27.03.2024:
Exterior:
-Zinobberrot E28 EURO
-Original shadowline trim
-Original M5 front valance
-Original M5 rear wing
-Custom Black-Hella headlights
-E34 M5 Style 20 8J all around, wrapped in 205/40R17 Nankang NS2R, brushed lips and Diamantshwarz Metallic spokes
-20mm spacers all around, converted to studs
-Original BMW Vintage Emblems
Interior:
-Original sports steering wheel wrapped in Nappa leather, extra padding, red stitching
-DIY red needles
-E34 M5 cloth seats
-Red seatbelts
-Custom full 7 way stereo setup - TO DO
-Headliner wrapped in black leather
-Full reupholstery with M-rain fabric and black leather - TO DO
Suspension and handling:
-Custom coilovers
-35i sway bars
-Poly RTABs and subframe bushings
-30mm Gangl Motorsports RC Spacers
-Brembo 4-piston radial calipers @ 330x24mm custom slotted rotors
-Porsche 911 2-piston calipers @ 300x20mm custom slotted rotors
-E32 750i MC with 18i booster
-Reinforced steering box pin - TO DO
-E34 aluminium front lower control arms with spherical bushings - TO DO
-E28 front upper arms with E34 M5 bushings - TO DO
Engine and drivetrain: - TO DO
-M30B35 from E32 735i
-KM Cams Steg2 292°
-KM Cams billet steel lifters
-Custom cam locks
-Raised compression 9.8:1
-Modified M30B35 pistons
-440cc Bosch Green giants
-M30B35 flipped intake adapted to 80mm TB
-Custom 80mm induction piping
-AFM delete - Bosch Motorsport PST1 IAT/MAP instead
-Megasquirt MS3++ running fully sequential ignition and injection both, map switch, launch control
-Bosch LSU 4.9 Wideband
-Distributor delete - 6x Audi Red Top coils
-VW Polo ICV
-M106 knock sensors
-Schmiedmann Headers
-2x50mm exhaust - ?? Mufflers - TO DO
-3.64 LSD rebuilt to 40% - TO DO
-Getrag 260/6
-Billet steel E28 M5 6kg flywheel
-E28 M5 Sachs clutch kit with stainless steel pivot
-E46 heater valve
-E28 535i radiator with E34 535i overflow
-Shaved engine bay, custom fuse/relay plate, motorsport spec wiring with bulkhead connector
-Power figures: expecting roughly 275HP crank - Under construction!
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_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Hey everyone!
Allow me to introduce myself. My name's Dave, I'm a mechanical engineer from Hungary, EU. I've had a coupla bimmers before, and always wanted an E28, but something was always wrong. Finance, no place, no time, no good deals.. So on. After multiple years, my luck finally came and I've found an E28 for sale and bought it the very day I've sold my E21 318i on the 8th of August, 2021.
You may read the story of the car before I got it, here:
http://capabmwforum.hu/index.php/topic,1465.0.html
The car came to me as an 528i, and was mostly rebuilt, using two E28's - A 518i for the shell, and a 528i for the drivetrain, suspension, brakes etc.
The car's been repainted in 2013, the colour she's wearing is Zinnoberrot, which you would normally find on an M5 or an M535i (in my experience, anyway), finished with an M5 front lip, full shadowline (original, not painted chrome), an M5 rear spoiler, essentially an M5 replica - other than I'm rocking different wheels, and Black Hellas.
The car was pretty good condition, but it has/had some small issues, mostly with electronics, and the drivetrain was(is) pretty worn. Since I got my hands on it, I fixed a lot of small errors, and made some small finishing touches, such as small trim pieces and interior bits. Other than these, the main changes were that I've changed the OZ Futuras to E34 M5 Style 20's, naked. I've always wanted a set like this, and the Futura's were too much for my taste. The rims got refinished in BMW Diamantschwarz paint and brushed + clear coated lips; I'm running NS2R semislicks in 205/40R17 size all around, with 20mm spacers and converted the car to studs.
The main difference is that I've swapped the engine to an M30B35 from an E32. It's been semi-rebuilt, and I've tried to make the already clean engine bay even clearer. The engine is mostly stock apart from a chip, a very-mild cam, and a flipped intake.
Now, let me give you an overview of the plan and my goals.
In short, I'd like to keep this car a stock-ish, OEM+ 535i. The main goal is to fix all it's problems, and to modernize it in a sensible, nice fashioned way. I'd like to use this car to make roadtrips and just generally cruise around, no racing, tracking or anything else. However, I do like to build my cars well.. So I'll probably go overkill on many bits, just because I love creating and making things right.
Here are the main issues I'm facing right now:
No heating
No feedback on my temp gauge
Drivetrain is completely fucked, basically need to rebuild everything. It's wobbly, loud and the whole car shakes..
Tranny and clutch are noisy
Engine runs like shit, cylinder head is worn, needs a rebuild.
So now let's walk over my plans. This is just a feeler, I'll get into more details when I'm actually discussing the given topic.
• Fix the drivetrain
○ Rebuild the LSD, potentially swap to a higher gearing (3.46 right now)
○ Rebuild the driveshaft, replace CSB
○ Rebuild the axle-shafts
○ Rebuild the transmission (input shaft bearing is dead)
○ Repair the flywheel? (I'm not sure of the condition, need to see first)
○ Change the complete clutch (actually, it's only the throwout bearing that needs replacement, but a complete new 'OEM' Sachs clutch kit is around 150USD, so I'll just change it for the piece of mind; might get is kevlar'd too)
• Rebuild the suspension
○ Change poly bushings to E34 M5 RTABs, front's to E31 and mooseheads, etc
○ Make new coilovers (running custom coilovers, but the springs are too stiff and the damping is too soft.)
I'm going for 6k front, 5k rear, the mechanical part will be done by me, and the damping will be dialed in by a professional in my country.
○ New top hats, front is worn, the rear one is the stock, shitty rubber that I dislike a lot.
• Upgrade the brakes
○ Now, this is totally useless, the brakes I have now (E34 300mm front, E28 286mm disc rear, 528i main cyl with 518i brake servo) works fantastic;however, the discs are a touch worn, so a complete brake service is near Anyway. I wanted to fill up the space behind the Style 20's, so I'm making a complete big brake kit using 4 and 2 pot brembos - This is almost finished, I'll probably create a detailed post next week when everythings ready. I'll probably start selling this BBK later too, if you're interested..
• Do something with the exhaust
○ TBH, I really don't know yet.
○ I like the stock exhaust, I want to trip with this car, so I don't want anything loud, but I'm losing on weight and performance. Might keep stock, might make a "replica" of the stock system, just with 2x60mm, might get a full performance exhaust… We'll see.
○ I also need to make/buy some shielding, as this is missing right now, the stock shielding is pretty much destroyed..
• Rebuild the engine
○ The engine needs a partial rebuild, mostly on the cylinder head, so I'll rebuild it, but of course, OEM+ way.
○ Aftermarket ECU - Probably maxxecu street. I would like something more modern than the motronic, as I'm missing out on torque, fuel efficiency, feedback, tune-abilty.. Everything. And most importantly, I truly hate the AFM. It is so inefficient, inaccurate and takes up so much space in my engine bay!
○ Cylinder head will recieve a 284 schrick cam, HD rockers, rocker lockers.
○ Engine block and cylinder head will be shaved to increase compression.
○ Hopefully everything is OK in the bottom end.. If not, I'll end up creating a stroker, with oversized high compression NA pistons.
○ Put in more modern, bigger injectors. I have some Saab (or what) injectors that are a perfect replacement for the stock units, just newer and come with 4 holes.
○ M50 throttle body in place of the M30 unit - same diameter, but better cable routing options for my flipped intake
○ Coils? I'm not sure, I'll probably borrow a set from someone and see if there's any real power difference with them. I don't really fancy them, I'd really like to keep the stock-ish look, but also don't want to miss out on performance. I'm running an M5 Bosch coil as of now.
○ A crank scraper
○ Serpentine belt conversion (custom made, this is also in developement and once done, it will be up for sale)
○ Possibly and oil cooler? I'll just keep and eye on oil temps, won't add anything unnecessary.
• Small bits
○ I have a couple of small things I'd like to touch up, such as:
○ Red seatbelts
○ Reupholster the rear seats and door card to match my E34 sport seats
○ Rebuild and repair my M5 front valance
I think this is it for now.
I'll be using hashtags at the beginning of my posts, so the thread will be easier to see trough!
Thank you for joining! If you have any questions, let me know.
Until next time
Dave
*Updated with specs