New custom e28 turbo kits coming soon!

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Shelby GT500
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New custom e28 turbo kits coming soon!

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Well after a lot ALOT of development, I will be soon selling customizable turbo kits. All kits will include a new:

-Garret/turbonetics t3/t4 hybrid turbo (but will gladly change/alter the turbo for your specific needs). These are not questionable ebay turbo's there are actual Turbonetics t3/4 Hybrids. The T3/T4 Hybrid turbochargers consist of a T3 turbine section, and a T4 compressor section (T04B trim, T04E trim & 60-Series). This combination offers the low inertia and fast boost response of the lightweight T3 turbine wheel and the high airflow characteristics of the T4 compressor. All T3/T4 Hybrid Turbochargers are available with Turbonetics patented Ceramic Ball-Bearing

-I decided to make this a very nice kit as you can tell with the turbonetics turbo ( I like to use quality items and brand that have personally used) so I decided to go with an extremely nice SPEARCO intercooler. I have purchased many different brands of intercoolers in my life and I must say they are the best Bar and Plate. They are available in many sizes, however the standard Spearco with the Turbonetics will be 20x6x2.75. It is the perfect match up . Naturally all polished 2.5 inch intercooler piping and silicone clamps and connectors are included. Will also come with a Blitz DD BOV, once again unless you would prefer a different one.

-Naturally a new turbo exhaust manifold, and now for all the little stuff: stainless braided oil line, continuous oil return line recirculating pump,all silicone lines needed, EVERY gasket need, vacuum lines and fittings/t splitters and all the nuts bolts and some other misc. parts that you need to install it. I will also make a custom full turbo back exhaust to the customers specs. The sky is the limit for the exhaust,I can do any diameter, make it out of mild steel, aluminized, stainless steel (available in either 304 or 409), or even aluminum. Ceramic coating (jethot) is avalible as well. I am going to make each kit for each order, so you can choose how you want you exhaust set up from flange thickness, bolt pattern, to the type of metal, if you want flex pipe portions in there, if you would like a cat or run it straight, well I think you get the idea. I have already made and installed 3 and all of my customers were more than satisfied and were blown away by the over all quality, performance gain, and sound.

*Pricing will vary due to the specs of each order. If I can get 5+ people I can even offer a discount. Like I said these kits are made to order and I am fabricating custom exhaust which does not take that much time, but I have to wait on shipping. If you are interested please EMAIL me about what you will like and I will give you an estimate. I am going to try to attempt to sell these for little as possible for 2 reasons: I believe every e28 should be turboed :) 2. To provide a service that is desperately needed among the e28 community. The fact that I love working and fabricating might have something to do with it as well. Please don't be hesitate and ask for a quote, the best way to contact me is via email BoostedPerformance@hotmail.com I check my email multiple times a day so you should get a quick response Feel free to ask any questions you may have. Pictures coming soon!!!!! :banana:
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" . . .To provide a service that is desperately needed among the e28 community. . . . ":puke:

http://www.turbochargingdynamics.com

Rots of ruck in the coming erection.
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Post by Mark 88/M5 Houston »

What about engine management modifications and/or replacement and tuning guidance and assistance?
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Post by Martin in BellevueWA »

How much of a discount would you have to offer to persuade members of this forum to forget your previous first impression & not buy from Todd & Sweeney?
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Post by Shelby GT500 »

I’m not sure what you’re talking about regarding my previous first impression. If you’re referring to the two guys fighting and me stating my opinion that happened I don’t even remember when or what it was even about. I am not here to argue with people over the internet, I’m here to learn and tune my black beauty (535i). I don’t know why your laughing and making a puking sign? To be honest I really enjoyed heavily modifying my car, and custom fabricating the work. Any e28 that has a turbo either has a good 20 year old stock 7 series turbo and manifold or a TCD kit. I’m not doing this to make money, because I assure you it was extremely difficult and time consuming to not only configure this set up for optimal performance and make it from scratch and look good. My 3rd one I made is perfect all mandrel bent high flow polished t-304 stainless steel with a nice brand new turbonetics turbo and cat-less exhaust. I didn’t have the money to shell out after modifying the gt500 so I made it piece by piece and fabricated everything...ECU tuning is buyers responsibility. I am selling a turbo kit and exhaust.

Now as far as price goes, the one and only website that I could find that sells turbo kits for the e28 (TCD) charges Stage II – Intercooled $5125 All E28 and E24. From what I can tell this would be the closest to mine except the exhaust system is another $695 dollars. Bring the total to $5820 dollars. Like I said the price of every kit will vary due to what options you pick, but even with all stainless t-304 everything I can promise that it would be at least a $2100 dollar savings over the other kit. (BTW 1/2 inch cnc machined stainless steel flanges are close 50 dollars shipped for 1!)
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Post by Jays535is »

Got any pics? EDIT- just seen the pics coming soon part.
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Post by Nebraska_e28 »

A few pictures would be nice, also do you have any dyno results of the finished products? Not to knock it or anything but some numbers, pictures & words from the satisfied customers would help support this endeavor.
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Post by Jeremy »

So you're not including injectors, FMU, chip, or tuning help of any kind with said kit?

What type of manifold are you using and where is the intercooler mounted?

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Post by TheArkitekt »

I would like to see pictures of this kit as well. Specifically the manifold. Will you be producing these manifolds yourself?
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Post by Shawn D. »

Shelby GT500 wrote:I’m not sure what you’re talking about regarding my previous first impression. If you’re referring to the two guys fighting and me stating my opinion that happened I don’t even remember when or what it was even about.
Maybe this will refresh your memory.
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Shawn D. wrote:
Shelby GT500 wrote:I’m not sure what you’re talking about regarding my previous first impression. If you’re referring to the two guys fighting and me stating my opinion that happened I don’t even remember when or what it was even about.
Maybe this will refresh your memory.
Ahhh, yes the infamous "turd in the punchbowl" post.

BTW, you can't really use TCD as a price-point since you aren't providing an actual kit (seeing as how there are more parts to buy once you're done supplying), nor are you providing any sort of support once purchased.

Good luck, I guess.
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Post by Hunter has a Bimmer3 »

SPAM!
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Post by Mark 88/M5 Houston »

ECU tuning is buyers responsibility. I am selling a turbo kit and exhaust.


Sounds as if you are trying to market E28 turbo components - not a full kit. :?
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Post by Brad D. »

My take on turbo kits is that they are typically purchased by someone who want to be able to purchase and bolt on everything they need to turbocharge their car. This includes engine management. Since the new kit owner may not be tremendously knowledgeable about turbo cars, they will need technical support to possibly guide them through the install as well post sale support. These are all costs that are wrapped into the sale of any quality product and they really need to be provided considering the price of admission. Additionally, the person who would possibly buy only a partial turbo kit (manifold, turbo, WG, etc) is probably a bit more of a DIYer could potentially piece thogether/fabricate their own "kit" and then handle the engine management on their own for a much reduced cost. The e28 turbo kit market is a slim one. The person who cannot afford the bells and whistles TCD kit probably won't buy an incomplete $3-3500 kit either. Its just they way this market is. Now, for those who really want a turbo kit on a budget, like myself, I will use my own fabrication skills, much like yourself, and make my own manifold, piping, etc. and I will purchase individual components at the best prices spacing out the purchase price over time. But to be able to be successful at competeing with a turnkey kit, that while a bit more expensive, will probably be the choice of those who are even in the markey to purchase. Best of luck in your venture.
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Hunter has a Bimmer3 wrote:SPAM!
Dude, are you kidding me? This guy is trying to support the FI E28 contingent, as fledgling a market as it is, and you scream SPAM without knowing what you're talking about? Don't be ridiculous.
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Post by Rich Euro M5 »

I'm in agreement with "Big Bronze Rim" and don't consider the lack of engine management or a turnkey kit to be a impediment. I'm fairly certain, TCD will sell single components too, such as his manifold. I'm interested to see what "Shelby GT500" has to offer and at what price point. I personally think it's healthy to have some competition in this arena.

Rich
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Post by rundatrack »

I dont understand why people have to be such assholes when someone other that then TCD comes here.

There is room for everyone to put out products the buying audience will choose whos product is the best

Goodness stop being so petty and let the man introduce his kit or products....

Competition yields better products and services for the consumers...
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Post by Shelby GT500 »

Yes I will gladly sell parts individually, since it really does not matter to me. I used a cad design program to figure out how to make slightly modified version of the stock forged turbo manifolds, (only mine are obviously not cast) and then started altering the design of the manifolds to accommodate other style turbo as well. Not just cutting off 1 flange and putting it on, more of a rotated set up to fit more room. Basically I am willing for build a set up to fit any turbo, I just need to do the appropriate pipe, intercooler and exhaust sizing. As far as pricing goes, that is the max possible price. I am actually hoping to get into the 2k range.
I am working with suppliers right now and setting up business accounts so that I may get the products I need at a cheaper rate, thus cheaper kit! I also want to ensure a good product consistency for the people that do buy my kit.

I never planned on even turbo charging the e28 but after I purchased an e30 convertible 5 speed I decided to turbo it. I enjoyed it ALOT and loved the thought of having a black turbo e28 and a black turbo e30.

As far as prior posts, I specifically stated that (Direct quote):
" I have found that this is a great resource for general BMW information, and I will be using it a lot as I restore my black beauty (535i)."
Well there’s my first post. BTW: the problem/ fix it section is great. Cheers. "
After which I was flamed for owning a gt-500. This is a completely unrelated issue and has no relevance to this thread.

I will have good pictures in about 2 weeks of an actually finished kit, as all the prototypes were made in mild steel, not stainless. I will actually be moving all next week as well, hence the time delay. I must go but will be back to answer more questions.
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Post by 6throttles »

rundatrack wrote:I dont understand why people have to be such assholes when someone other that then TCD comes here.

There is room for everyone to put out products the buying audience will choose whos product is the best

Goodness stop being so petty and let the man introduce his kit or products....

Competition yields better products and services for the consumers...
Agreed...
I'm interested to see the manifolds.
This guy is offering a product and searching for possible customers. If one is not interested, one doesn't need to post every reason why they aren't, or give examples of why someone else may not be. I don't post much, but it'd be nice to see everyone get a fair chance at offering something to the e28 community. IMO, change and variation is a GOOD thing.
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Post by Duke »

6throttles wrote:
If one is not interested, one doesn't need to post every reason why they aren't, or give examples of why someone else may not be. I don't post much, but it'd be nice to see everyone get a fair chance at offering something to the e28 community. IMO, change and variation is a GOOD thing.
+10

I with you on this too!
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Post by turbodan »

I think a more basic kit is great. It keeps costs down while still covering key components. All you really need is a good manifold, maybe a turbo. If I could have nabbed a kit with a manifold, good turbo, wastegate and RRFPR for around 2k when I was in the market for the stuff, I would have thought very hard about picking that up.
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Post by bmwfan1957 »

Well I am definately interested to see what he has to offer! Competetion in this market is needed I think... Not only will it help drive down turbo kit prices but also spark more interest in the e28 community in general! Which means more upgraded parts becoming availiable for these cars and also a competition to gain the most HP! Now who doesn't want that? :banana:
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Post by T_C_D »

bmwfan1957 wrote:Competetion in this market is needed I think... Not only will it help drive down turbo kit prices
I have seen this comment several times and it makes me laugh a little bit. We are not exactly dealing with huge margains!

There is a reason why there is little competition. The market is tiny and the margains are modest.

Our kit prices will be going up soon not down. We have absorbed increased costs over the past 4 years without any increase in our retail prices.

If someone else can offer a product that the market wants (price/content) than more power to them.

Todd
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Post by chrism »

Haha this is good. Now where is preston from Cartech with his new and improved kit that was coming soon?? What was that 2 years ago??

As for turbo kit prices. If you cant afford to replace a motor or two in addition to your turbo kit., you cant afford to have a turbo kit :D
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Post by Rich Euro M5 »

T_C_D wrote:
bmwfan1957 wrote:Competetion in this market is needed I think... Not only will it help drive down turbo kit prices
I have seen this comment several times and it makes me laugh a little bit. We are not exactly dealing with huge margains!

There is a reason why there is little competition. The market is tiny and the margains are modest.

Our kit prices will be going up soon not down. We have absorbed increased costs over the past 4 years without any increase in our retail prices.

If someone else can offer a product that the market wants (price/content) than more power to them.

Todd
Todd,

Thanks for sharing and also for the healthy attitude.

FWIW: I haven't seen this guy post any pictures. Even pics of his prototypes would be something. What have we gotten, nothing, nada, zip. It's easy to boast on an internet forum, however when challenged you have to produce results. So far we haven't seen any results, therefore I don't think this guy has anything to offer.

Rich
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Post by rundatrack »

chrism wrote:Haha this is good. Now where is preston from Cartech with his new and improved kit that was coming soon?? What was that 2 years ago??

As for turbo kit prices. If you cant afford to replace a motor or two in addition to your turbo kit., you cant afford to have a turbo kit :D
Or just do a stock rebuild...or beef up the internals... :banana:
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Post by chrism »

Still Waiting :dunno:
Shelby GT500 wrote: I will have good pictures in about 2 weeks of an actually finished kit, as all the prototypes were made in mild steel, not stainless. I will actually be moving all next week as well, hence the time delay. I must go but will be back to answer more questions.
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Post by Gunni »

Shelby GT500 wrote:. I’m not doing this to make money,
This is the reason things like this don´t happen..

Bad businees ideas.
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