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Any TCD cars smog-legal in Kalifornia?
Any TCD cars smog-legal in Kalifornia?
I've got an '85 635CSiA and am getting a hankerin' for a turbo. The TCD Stage 1 looks like something I'd be very interested in. Are TCD cars passing smog inspections in KA or is this just another good reason to get outta here?
With the size of the catalytic converter on that turbo exhaust, emissions aren't a problem, and a properly tuned m30 can post most emissions inspections even without one.
Dan's right, your real problem is the Kaleefornia Air Resource Board. If you don't have to deal with them, you're golden. Either that or convert a 524td to a gasser and put the turbo on that. Diesels are still emissions exempt there, right?
Jeremy
Dan's right, your real problem is the Kaleefornia Air Resource Board. If you don't have to deal with them, you're golden. Either that or convert a 524td to a gasser and put the turbo on that. Diesels are still emissions exempt there, right?
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Jeremy
Yes, we DO have visual inspections and that's the only part I'm concerned about. A lot of guys out here have late-model Vettes with plenty of performance equipment and yet a lot of them get through; I don't now how they do it but I would think having a good relationship with the right smog shop wouldn't hurt.
I would love to see TCD's equipment get CARB certified just to fuck with Dinan.
Here is a great thread that a friend sent to me - Click for lots of Dinan good will...NOT
Here is a great thread that a friend sent to me - Click for lots of Dinan good will...NOT
it will never pass the visual part of the test unless you get lucky and have a complete moron check it. The only way of passing an aftermarket turbo system on our cars is use the dinan kit (good luck finding one) or have friends. Most people with heavy mods to their cars use connections to get them to pass. either look the other way or just plain do the test with all the info of your car but hook the machine up to another car entirely. WARNING : this is highly illegal. it happens all the time though.
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I've been doing it for 5 years. It does work.LarryM wrote:Nice try, but it won't work. I've watched the smog tech checking my VIN tag in the past.///ARINUTS... wrote:VIN?thesixerkid wrote:This is why it helps to have 2 cars that look almost exactly alike. Swap plates for a day and no one will ever know the difference.
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Yes, diesel's are still SMOG exempt.Jeremy wrote: Either that or convert a 524td to a gasser and put the turbo on that. Diesels are still emissions exempt there, right?![]()
Jeremy
You can get anything CARB certified, but you must pay and pay and pay and keep paying until you get it right. There are two CARB certification laboratories in CA. One is in Napa, the other is in Santa Ana. I have been preparing my 745 for this. It did not matter that I already had a 745 that was CARB legal from which all of the smog equipment came. The car itself needed to be certified. I have had it sniffed three times and it has had passing levels everytime.
The cert test is three days long and has a price tag of $1600, (that is test only). If it doesn't pass, you must figure out why (more $). Every time you retest it is a fresh pile of 16 Benjamins. This also does not include the cost of emission equipment or the installation of said equipment. As I understand it can be in the neighborhood of $10k when all is said and done. All fine and dandy if you are importing a newer euro spec car. $130k to purchase the car, another $5k to import it; whats another $10k for Carb certification? Not exactly dollar smart for 20 something year old bimmers.
I plan on only doing the test once.(I wonder how many have said that before?)
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My advice? If you live in CA avoid any car that is not already CARB certified.
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Good advice - start with something that already has a BAR sticker. Even though it means passing by some nice cars.Corner Carver wrote:Yes, diesel's are still SMOG exempt.Jeremy wrote: Either that or convert a 524td to a gasser and put the turbo on that. Diesels are still emissions exempt there, right?![]()
Jeremy
My advice? If you live in CA avoid any car that is not already CARB certified.
As for the diesel 'conversion:' Well, it's illegal, right? More to the point, didn't diesels come with different brake boosters that need changing? Fuel system (including tank?) needs changing. I also recall hearing other reasons whey the diesel is not a good hot rod platform. I think it was suspension related.
So it just doesn't seem like a great option. But what do I know? A while back I nearly bought that primer black 524td that had a chevy 350 V8 dropped into it.
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So's speeding. It's only illegal if you get caught. 8)California Dreamin' wrote:As for the diesel 'conversion:' Well, it's illegal, right?
There's a multitude of "issues" that can be overlooked/forgiven by the benefit of not even having to even THINK about the smog nazis looking over your shoulder. Besides, weren't you going to replace that suspension with sport springs anyway? Gas tanks rot out, so that's not neccessarily a bad thing to buy new. The brake system can be transplanted wholesale from a donor car.California Dreamin' wrote:More to the point, didn't diesels come with different brake boosters that need changing? Fuel system (including tank?) needs changing. I also recall hearing other reasons whey the diesel is not a good hot rod platform. I think it was suspension related.
So it just doesn't seem like a great option. But what do I know? A while back I nearly bought that primer black 524td that had a chevy 350 V8 dropped into it.
How bad do you want it and what're you willing to do to get it?
Jeremy
Corner Carver wrote:Jeremy wrote: Either that or convert a 524td to a gasser and put the turbo on that. Diesels are still emissions exempt there, right?![]()
Jeremy
You can get anything CARB certified, but you must pay and pay and pay and keep paying until you get it right. There are two CARB certification laboratories in CA. One is in Napa, the other is in Santa Ana. I have been preparing my 745 for this. It did not matter that I already had a 745 that was CARB legal from which all of the smog equipment came. The car itself needed to be certified. I have had it sniffed three times and it has had passing levels everytime.
My advice? If you live in CA avoid any car that is not already CARB certified.
Canyon Carver, does the 745 already have a CA BAR sticker? I would assume if it did, this would be less of a hassle than going through CARB, since that sticker should already make the 745 CA legal. If so, I would expect you should only have to follow BAR procedures for an 'engine change'. That's at least my understanding.
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My '85 745 was federalized in Georgia. It has never had a CARB cert, hence my need to have it certified. The other 745 that I have has the precious CARB sticker. However it is a cancerous rust bucket after having spent its life being parked under Coast Live Oak and Eucalyptus trees.roeboat wrote:Corner Carver wrote:Jeremy wrote: Either that or convert a 524td to a gasser and put the turbo on that. Diesels are still emissions exempt there, right?![]()
Jeremy
You can get anything CARB certified, but you must pay and pay and pay and keep paying until you get it right. There are two CARB certification laboratories in CA. One is in Napa, the other is in Santa Ana. I have been preparing my 745 for this. It did not matter that I already had a 745 that was CARB legal from which all of the smog equipment came. The car itself needed to be certified. I have had it sniffed three times and it has had passing levels everytime.
My advice? If you live in CA avoid any car that is not already CARB certified.
Canyon Carver, does the 745 already have a CA BAR sticker? I would assume if it did, this would be less of a hassle than going through CARB, since that sticker should already make the 745 CA legal. If so, I would expect you should only have to follow BAR procedures for an 'engine change'. That's at least my understanding.