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AC belt size

Posted: Apr 22, 2009 12:38 PM
by Patrick McHugh
Most parts suppliers list the AC belt on an e28 as a 13.0 x 800, but I've been having trouble working with that belt. Even with the adjustment all the way in, the belt is a PITA to get on and when it's on it's way too tight. The ETK lists a 12.5 x 800. Anybody have a clue what's going on here?

Posted: Apr 22, 2009 12:48 PM
by Shawn D.
Unfortunately, they're all like that. :?

Posted: Apr 22, 2009 1:39 PM
by Brad D.
Shawn D. wrote:Unfortunately, they're all like that. :?
Yup, the AC belt sucks to install.

Posted: Apr 22, 2009 2:38 PM
by John in VA
So get a Conti 13.0 x 810, 823 or 850 belt.

http://autoparts.cardomain.com/auto-par ... t?bq=conti

Steve H. can also get what you need.

Posted: Apr 22, 2009 3:13 PM
by mooseheadm5
you won't find a 12.5 any more (usually) so get a 13. The listing is wrong- do not try to use an 800. Even an 810 is a tight fit, so I normally use up to an 825.

Posted: Apr 22, 2009 3:41 PM
by Scottinva
I just used a screwdriver and some muscle, it wan't that bad.

Posted: Apr 22, 2009 4:32 PM
by Patrick McHugh
mooseheadm5 wrote:you won't find a 12.5 any more (usually) so get a 13. The listing is wrong- do not try to use an 800. Even an 810 is a tight fit, so I normally use up to an 825.
Will do. Having the belt as tight as it is destroyed the last belt prematurely and is not good for the compressor.

Posted: Apr 22, 2009 9:38 PM
by a
On the M20 , the belt is a tight squeeze. But once it is on the pulleys you have to take up the slack, That being the case, you aren't stressing anything except maybe your fingers. Just start it on and bump over the engine.

Posted: Apr 22, 2009 10:10 PM
by Mike W.
Seems like 810 is the size I use, I know I went thru a couple of my spares when I lost all my belts last year and it was a pretty narrow range that would fit. That said, a screwdriver and a ratchet on the crank bolt make it less dramatic than many seem to feel it is.

Posted: Apr 27, 2009 6:04 PM
by Patrick McHugh
Mike W. wrote:Seems like 810 is the size I use, I know I went thru a couple of my spares when I lost all my belts last year and it was a pretty narrow range that would fit. That said, a screwdriver and a ratchet on the crank bolt make it less dramatic than many seem to feel it is.
I know, i've gotten it on before, but there's no reason why the belt should be overly tight with the eccentric all the way out

Posted: Apr 27, 2009 6:08 PM
by mooseheadm5
My guess is manufacturing tolerance.

Posted: Apr 27, 2009 9:55 PM
by DJM1986-5
Mike W has it right - use a screw driver and turn the crank. It slips right on. Unfortunately I've done it enough to learn that trick too. "Necessity" is a mother....oh yeah, "the" mother of invention.

Posted: Apr 27, 2009 10:11 PM
by mooseheadm5
On some cars that this belt is spec'd for, it will not go on even that way, or it will go on and be banjo string tight. I never bothered to find out why, just went to using 810s instead and never had a problem.

Posted: Apr 28, 2009 3:40 AM
by wkohler
I used Mike W's method with the 810 belt I put on in Feb.

Posted: Apr 28, 2009 8:06 AM
by Patrick McHugh
How are belt sizes categorized?

Posted: Apr 28, 2009 8:28 AM
by Shawn D.
Patrick McHugh wrote:How are belt sizes categorized?
By width and total length. A belt of the same total length will seem "larger" if the width is narrower because it rides further down in the grooves.

Posted: Apr 28, 2009 8:30 AM
by Patrick McHugh
Cool, so 12.5 would be the width and 800 the length?

Posted: Apr 28, 2009 8:38 AM
by Shawn D.
Patrick McHugh wrote:Cool, so 12.5 would be the width and 800 the length?
Yep. 12.5mm x 100mm, or 1/2" x 31-1/2".