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It's like Africa hot. Tarzan couldn't take this kind of hot.

Oh come on now Charles...
While I do show its hotter in Sandy Eggo than Sacramento for a change...93 is hardly a melting point!

Hell its gonna drop below 80 for you by the weekend!!

Course for those crazies who live in the Devils Asshole, er, Phoenix, its still a hundredandsumpthin....like everyday...

I can't take much more of this, it's been in the mid 90s with 70~90% humidity nearly every day for weeks here in Atlanta. It'll rain for about 5 minutes, just to bring the humidity level up again.

Xenocide wrote:I can't take much more of this, it's been in the mid 90s with 70~90% humidity nearly every day for weeks here in Atlanta. It'll rain for about 5 minutes, just to bring the humidity level up again.

Same here. It's actually cooled off a little yesterday and today...

ElGuappo wrote:Oh come on now Charles...

Ya, I guess it’s the crazy 48% humidity that I’m not used to, not so much the heat.
I guess I’ll stop at the store and pick up some mint juleps on the way home. WTF is a mint julep anyway?

I went to Palm Desert after work last night. Got there about 6:30 pm. 107 degrees and partly cloudy...I was told it was worse (more humid) the day before...

lmao - its been over 100 degrees a few times this summer in the city and sometimes consecutively... brooklyn, included!

Look at whats going on around world....

Were slowly been cooked guys - get used too it!

goodluck,

alpinewhite wrote:
Look at whats going on around world....

Look closely, don't just listen to the media hype about where it's warmer.

Come on up to the great white north! In western Canada we've had NO summer. Yesterday it was 55F in Calgary, today we think it's beautiful because it is 74F. This place is normally dry year round, but this morning I saw algae in a puddle in a parking lot it has been so wet, moss is growing in the sidewalk cracks. Hillsides that are normally brown by early June are green, green, green. The west coast of Canada has been stubbornly about 10F below normal. I nearly froze last weekend in San Francisco.

Some places warmer - some colder. It isn't as universal as the media would have you believe.

The atmosphere is loaded with more CO2 than at any time during the last 800 thousand years, and likely higher than in the past 20 million years.

It is conjectured our weird, record setting weather can be attributed to this fact. Including animals--avian mating seasons have shifted several days in the calender year on average.

clangpap wrote:

alpinewhite wrote:
Look at whats going on around world....

Look closely, don't just listen to the media hype about where it's warmer.

...Some places warmer - some colder. It isn't as universal as the media would have you believe.

Precisely-- greater extremes everywhere. Flooding in Pakistan unlike any in recorded history and 700 people dying per day in the Russian heat wave.

However, the only hard fact remains the changes in CO2 concentration.

1) Yes, the climate is changing.
2) It is probable, but not fully proven, that humans are changing it (or contributing greatly).
3) Our colder-than-average winter and hottest-in-105 years (in Philadelphia) summer are not a direct result or an indication of climate change or the lack thereof.

Weather ≠ climate.

-tammer (had 20 straight days of 90+ temps and high humidity in June and July)

nnarth212 wrote: However, the only hard fact remains the changes in CO2 concentration.

And resultant changes in water pH.

-tammer

Got in the car today, OBC registered 103.

Don't cry about your 90's sissies.

(...waiting for Kohler to chime in with the 11x's today in Arizona )

nnarth212 wrote:The atmosphere is loaded with more CO2 than at any time during the last 800 thousand years, and likely higher than in the past 20 million years.

This may seem like a long time, but for mother earth, it isn't. For instance, bearing in mind this is a car forum, it isn't likely the fuel you are burning in your car is less than 65 million years old. Lots of it comes from sediments laid down 350-500 million years ago.

There are many academic sources on CO2 concentration comparisons. This one for instance, agrees with your comments, but is not alarmist (at least not about warming):

"Over the last 400,000 years the natural upper limit of atmospheric CO2 concentrations was about 300 ppm. Today, CO2 concentrations worldwide average about 380 ppm. Compared to former geologic periods, concentrations of CO2 in our atmosphere are still very small and may not have a statistically measurable effect on global temperatures. For example, during the Ordovician Period 460 million years ago CO2 concentrations were 4400 ppm while temperatures then were about the same as they are today."

It goes on to discuss how this pattern (measured from Antarctic ice cores) in the past 400,000 years has led to the onset of new ice ages - 15,000-20,000 years of warming followed by 100,000 years in the deep freeze. We are about 18,000 years into the thaw. Sadly, I'm old enough to have been in school in the cold, snowy 60's when many of today's scientists were then predicting the return to the ice age (David Suzuki for instance).

Snakeyestx wrote:Got in the car today, OBC registered 103.

..it's not the heat Carruthers.....it's those damned native drums..

Charles Gray wrote:Ya, I guess it’s the crazy 48% humidity that I’m not used to, not so much the heat.

That's dry air by South Florida standards...

SeaWolf wrote:..it's not the heat Carruthers.....it's those damned native drums..

I was beginning to regret starting this thread until your post

ElGuappo wrote:Oh come on now Charles...
While I do show its hotter in Sandy Eggo than Sacramento for a change...93 is hardly a melting point!

Hell its gonna drop below 80 for you by the weekend!!

Course for those crazies who live in the Devils Asshole, er, Phoenix, its still a hundredandsumpthin....like everyday...

I think what's got all us SoCal folks (at least the coasties) in a tizzy is that this has been the year without a summer (cloudy and barely in the 70's most of the time). Then when we get that occasional hot streak, we become unglued.
I know this is quibbling and the rest of the country must be hating us now seeing the extremes you all have been having both winter and summer so far, but we're allowed to complain once and while.

You couldn't pay me to move back the east coast. Ever.

Try out the crazy weather taking tamoxifen . If it is over 75f, the least exertion, even eating, triggers a hot flash. I start sweating so hard I cant see through my glasses. This afternoon a cool front moved in and temps are now a balmy 70f Life is good.

You guys are pussies. Its so humid down in South Louisiana it feels like being inside Lindsay Lohan's vagina.

Kyle in NO wrote:You guys are pussies. Its so humid down in South Louisiana it feels like being inside Lindsay Lohan's vagina.

Oh man. You'd better shower frequently.

There's a reason I don't and will never live there. 93F with a heat index of 106F is too much for me; I wouldn't make it down there (or I'd have to quit running and cycling completely, which I don't want to do).

-tammer

I thought you were built to withstand Egyptian heat!

This has been a relatively cool summer here, and it has been over 100 nearly every day - some days getting into the 11x's.

nnarth212 wrote:The atmosphere is loaded with more CO2 than at any time during the last 800 thousand years, and likely higher than in the past 20 million years.

What IS conjecture is the method by which they "measure" the CO2 levels by looking at rocks and ice cores. There's absolutely no proof that any of that measurement is accurate. It's a generally accepted idea, but no proof.

The hottest summer on record (before this year) was over 10 years ago. Last summer was one of the most mild ever recorded. I didn't even have to put my AC unit in the window the whole summer!*







*yes I realize that statement made me sound like a huge redneck...

Kyle in NO wrote:You guys are pussies. Its so humid down in South Louisiana it feels like being inside Lindsay Lohan's vagina.

Well at least you won't be lonely..

Highs ranging between 75 & 82 here this week. Humidity is a bit high though, 70-90% most days. The climate controls are having a tough time keeping things at 50% at work. The problem here is the rainfall. I think we broke every record for rainfall amounts this year; last I heard we've had close to 20" of rainfall since May, and we usually get about a fourth of that.

Our heat index has been over 100 degrees for over 2 months now... Quit complaining!

My thoughts mirror Kyle's about the heat down here. Well not exactly. I've never even met Linsay Lohan. But it's almost unbearably hot and humid right now, between rainstorms.

All I have to say about "global warming" or whatever you want to call it: For the first time in any of our lives, there is a viable "northern" shipping route starting to open up. The fact of the matter is that sea ice is receding. I don't care what your reasoning is for it, but it's happening. Right now.

Kyle in NO wrote:I thought you were built to withstand Egyptian heat!

I am, but Egyptian heat is really dry. What kills me is humidity. Example:

July 4 weekend I was in Napa, CA. I did a 10-mile run at 3 p.m. one day, full sun, 91F, 28% humidity. 7:10 mile pace, no problem, quite comfortable.

5 days later, back in Philadelphia, 87F and 75% humidity, I couldn't run 8 miles at 7:50 pace and I lost over 7 lbs of sweat in that ~1 hour run.

If it's dry, sweat can work as it's supposed to and cool you off. In this jungle weather we've been having (and you get all the time), I just get soaked, dehydrated, and overheated. It sucks. I need to move west. Denver sounds good.

-tammer

See other guys come out West, they tell us about it, we have a thing for them, buy em a beer or something...But Tammer is too cool for some of us kids...

Red Potatoes.