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Honda Kid that wants an e28
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 10:05 PM
by white chocolate
whats up fellas
Heres the deal, i have become known as the Honda kid. I don't like it. so i decided to do something about it. My brother had an e28 a few years ago and i fricken loved it. So, I decided its time to grow up and move up to the world of BMW and do away with my Honda and the collection of parts i have accumulated for it.
Why am i telling you all this you ask? Because i want to know more about E28's, that's why.
I would be looking to spend 4-6 thousand dollars on the car and would do plenty of looking and researching before i bought it. This is something Ive never really put alot of effort into with past cars so this time i want to do it right.
sooo, my questions for you guys are this:
1.Whats the best E28? (aside from an m5, obviously) my plan with my civic was a swap, a cage, decent breaks, sticky tires and to track it. I know that with my brothers car, it was about two months short to have a computer that was chip-able/or tune-able. So, in your opinion, what is the best year/trim level/ etc E28?
2. How track friendly are these cars? anyone who knows anything about Hondas knows that they are moderately cheap to track and fun around corners with the proper suspension and what not. I'm not wanting a completely gutted track rat, but something i can drive to and from the track, enjoy on the track, and enjoy cruising around in with my buds on a Friday night.
3. What kind of power adders are out there? i know the s50/e30 is incredibly popular and fees-able for about 6k, but e30's dont get it for me like an e28! i know there are turbo set ups using seven series parts and some aftermarket companies that offer turbos and even 1jz swaps so to be popular. So, aside from these things, anyway that an M30 can make a bit more power?
(my neighbor has a six speed 850 that i could probably snag for 800 bucks which would be nasty,
any info on a v12 e28? )
4. And lastly, do these tanks make good track cars? they are a bit larger compared to my 1990 Honda civic hatchback and a bit more on the heavy side. are there brake options? suspension options? so fourth and so on?
id appreciate all the help i can get. i realize there is a search button, but i figured if i made a thread, the worst i could do is get hated on.
thanks in advance everyone
Garrett
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 10:09 PM
by oldskool
What are you wearing. . .like, right now?
Re: Honda Kid that wants an e28
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 10:10 PM
by Tammer in Philly
white chocolate wrote:
id appreciate all the help i can get. i realize there is a search button, but i figured if i made a thread, the worst i could do is get hated on.
Well, you're right about that part. Mainly for the spelling. Fees-able?
You can track an E28 and it will do great. For your budget and uses, find the best, latest 535i you can find. 535i or 535is doesn't matter; the only difference is the sport seats and body kit at this point. The stock Bilsteins are all long dead. Put in decent shocks and springs, upgrade to E32/E34 brakes all around, maybe a shorter limited-slip diff, and go. Stock power is more than enough to learn on, and anything that makes real power will cost you more than the car.
-tammer
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 10:11 PM
by alijonny
Search function, google, timing belt, the switch below the steering wheel to the right is the breaker for the windows, heat does not come out of the center vents, no it isn't an m535is, used radiators are a no no, yes you can swap a manual into it, turbo is expensive, nobody supercharges these cars, nitrous is not as bad as you think, stanced is gay depending on who you ask, wheels bigger than 18's are not acceptable.
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 10:11 PM
by Tammer in Philly
alijonny wrote:Search function, google, timing belt, the switch below the steering wheel to the right is the breaker for the windows, heat does not come out of the center vents, no it isn't an m535is, used radiators are a no no, yes you can swap a manual into it, turbo is expensive, nobody supercharges these cars, nitrous is not as bad as you think, stanced is gay depending on who you ask, wheels bigger than 18's are not acceptable.
That is sticky material.
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 10:18 PM
by Coldswede
Tammer in Philly wrote:alijonny wrote:Search function, google, timing belt, the switch below the steering wheel to the right is the breaker for the windows, heat does not come out of the center vents, no it isn't an m535is, used radiators are a no no, yes you can swap a manual into it, turbo is expensive, nobody supercharges these cars, nitrous is not as bad as you think, stanced is gay depending on who you ask, wheels bigger than 18's are not acceptable.
That is sticky material.
Ali! Ali, what have they done to you in school? Your posts used to be perfectly normal and now ... They border on genius!
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 10:21 PM
by CoyoteStarfish
If you can grab an 8er for around $600, turn around and sell it. Can you say 1000% profit margin? Just my thought.
There have been a few posts lately on e28s as track cars, drifters, etc... try the search. While you may be aware of it, I'm not sure you're using it.
They're tanks, but remarkably well balanced tanks. They handle pretty well, especially after you distribute the weight a little more.
Welcome to the board, leave your Honda knowledge and sense of pricing at the door.. it will do you no good here.
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 10:21 PM
by Mike W.
A 535i or is is probably the best starting platform for a performance car. The is variant was mostly cosmetic, and emphatically engine/transmission were the same. Plenty of suspension upgrades available. A bit large as you noted, but really plenty trackable, there are a number here who do so, pretty successfully. Turbo is expensive, but definitely doable, and relatively reliably too. One of our own, TCD has a turbo business. Big brakes are easy and cheap. Do at least some searching or else several will give you a hard time.
Oh, welcome to the group!
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 10:30 PM
by CoyoteStarfish
alijonny wrote:Search function, google, timing belt, the switch below the steering wheel to the right is the breaker for the windows, heat does not come out of the center vents, no it isn't an m535is, used radiators are a no no, yes you can swap a manual into it, turbo is expensive, nobody supercharges these cars, nitrous is not as bad as you think, stanced is gay depending on who you ask, wheels bigger than 18's are not acceptable.
ADD:
R134a will never cool your stock e28 to your satisfaction. It's probably the SI board. If your tool kit is complete it is not to be touched; only shown off.
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 10:36 PM
by Mike W.
CoyoteStarfish wrote:
ADD:
R134a will never cool your stock e28 to your satisfaction. It's probably the SI board. If your tool kit is complete and not rusty it is not to be touched; only shown off.
Fixed.
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 10:40 PM
by oldskool
oldskool wrote:What are you wearing. . .like, right now?
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 11:16 PM
by TurboChris
alijonny wrote:Search function, google, timing belt, the switch below the steering wheel to the right is the breaker for the windows, heat does not come out of the center vents, no it isn't an m535is, used radiators are a no no, yes you can swap a manual into it, turbo is expensive, nobody supercharges these cars, nitrous is not as bad as you think, stanced is gay depending on who you ask, wheels bigger than 18's are not acceptable.
Hahahaha, instant classic!
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 11:19 PM
by TSMacNeil
I LOL'd.
Ali made a funny.
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 11:19 PM
by C.R. Krieger
alijonny wrote:Search function, google, timing belt, the switch below the steering wheel to the right is the breaker for the windows, heat does not come out of the center vents, no it isn't an m535is, used radiators are a no no, yes you can swap a manual into it, turbo is expensive, nobody supercharges these cars, nitrous is not as bad as you think, stanced is gay depending on who you ask, wheels bigger than 18's are not acceptable.
Please add your location to your user profile so we can come egg your house at night.
There. FTFY.
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 11:20 PM
by TSMacNeil
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 11:23 PM
by alijonny
I mean, someone needs to sticky a link or even maybe a link next to the font color and such when making a post that says "newb" with a list of these details so we may all let them know what's up.
Re: Honda Kid that wants an e28
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 11:50 PM
by podgorny
white chocolate wrote:
Heres the deal, i have become known as the Honda kid. I don't like it... So, I decided its time to grow up and move up to the world of BMW and do away with my Honda.
I would be looking to spend 4-6 thousand dollars
$2500 for car.
$3500 for laser-removal of tribal tattoos.
Re: Honda Kid that wants an e28
Posted: Sep 22, 2011 2:46 AM
by Cactus
white chocolate wrote:Heres the deal, i have become known as the Honda kid. I don't like it. So, I decided its time to grow up and move up to the world of BMW and do away with my Honda and the collection of parts i have accumulated for it.
Buying a car won't help you grow up. I recommend you cut off any support your parents are giving you. Go explore the world, experience things outside your microcosm. Go places where you know your comfort level will be encroached upon, socialize with people who will unabashedly force you into situations you'd never find on your own. Make mistakes, then learn from them. Get the most blue collar job you can possibly find, and learn what it is to be humble. Donate your time to a charitable organization to learn humility. Find someone who can challenge you mentally, so you can learn concentration and focus. Teach someone, so that you can learn patience. Learn a trade. Learn sadness, learn hope, learn pain, sorrow, happiness, camaraderie, honor, fear, bravery, loyalty, loss, victory, achievement, hardship, triumph, rhetoric, deceit, fallacy, logic.
Chase your dreams, kid. Don't let your reputation drag you down, and don't think you have to let it change you, you can change it.
And before you ask, that black button left of the steering column on the kick panel, that's the circuit breaker for the windows, seriously.
Re: Honda Kid that wants an e28
Posted: Sep 22, 2011 2:55 AM
by 1st 5er
I'm lovin' this thread.
Wish I had you guys for dads when I was growing up.
Cactus wrote:And before you ask, that black button left of the steering column on the kick panel, that's the circuit breaker for the windows, seriously.
That what? Where?
Posted: Sep 22, 2011 3:46 AM
by Five two eight eye
Cactus wrote:
And before you ask, that black button left of the steering column on the kick panel, that's the circuit breaker for the windows, seriously.
No foolin', the absolute FIRST thing I ever learned about my e28 all those years ago...
Posted: Sep 22, 2011 7:08 AM
by Night Wolf
THE BMW IS NOT JDM.
Posted: Sep 22, 2011 7:41 AM
by Cactus
Oh crap, I had an existentialist-dyslexic moment in which I pretended I lived in a RHD market. For all LHD cars, it's to the right of the steering wheel, seriously.
Posted: Sep 22, 2011 9:07 AM
by 1st 5er
Thanks for the post count opportunity.
Posted: Sep 22, 2011 9:14 AM
by slammin_e28
What happened to OP?
Posted: Sep 22, 2011 9:47 AM
by skip535i
That's some funny stuff, Ali!
Good luck, dude. My recommendation is to look for a B35 swapped 535i that already has some suspension mods, that would be a perfect start if you want a "track-able" daily driver.
Posted: Sep 22, 2011 1:08 PM
by white chocolate
OP is right here.
while most of that made no sense to me, thanks for all the responses.
When I said grow up, I guess I meant that generally people consider Hondas as more of a stepping stone into the automotive world and I just want something different. I guess a crowd that could give two hoots about JDM and fanbois so to speak.
The 8 series i mentioned is pretty rough so it would be hard to turn a profit. However, it is all complete.
From here, i am going to invest alot of time in the search button. This was great though and i do appreciate the help!
Thanks guys
BTW fees-able is how spell checker told me to do it...
Posted: Sep 22, 2011 1:15 PM
by white chocolate
btw,
im wearing jeans
vans,
a jegs hat,
a richard petty t shirt,
and i live in n.e. ohio
Posted: Sep 22, 2011 1:21 PM
by TSMacNeil
Trade in the Petty tee for a Moosehead Engineering tee, and stop calling yourself The Honda Kid...and you'll be well on your way to having a new identity.
Think "Bavarian Baller"
Posted: Sep 22, 2011 5:36 PM
by 1st 5er
alijonny wrote:I mean, someone needs to sticky a link or even maybe a link next to the font color and such when making a post that says "newb" with a list of these details so we may all let them know what's up.
How about an auto-correct for when one types "newb" and/or "noob"?
Posted: Sep 22, 2011 5:46 PM
by Coldswede
The OP has taken all the ribbing in good form and even replied in a civil manner. Thus proving he has a sense of humor and is not too full of himself. I think he'll fit right in.
Welcome White Chocolate. Since you didn't run away screaming already, your insane enough to enjoy this mad house. (All the stuff that made no sense to you, will soon)