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Euro 535i LS Turbo Build Thread - 7/10/19 Dyno update
Posted: Dec 10, 2011 9:50 AM
by T_C_D
Another move, another winter, another build.
Moved back east. Less than 150 miles from Sweeney's! Old timers no what this means!
Towing the car to Sweeney's next weekend. Engine arrived this morning.
Here is the current plan:
Engine is a 2007 L33 all aluminum 310/335 in truck form. This engine is known as the 5300 HO and has some goodies from the factory. It has ls6 heads and valve train. slightly higher CR at 9.9 to 1 and a hotter cam than the other 5.3s.
We'll be installing new factory mls headgaskets and ARP studs. Otherwise the engine will remain stock. A BBK intake, 50lb injectors, early Corvette LS1 fuel rail, and f body throttle body will all be used.
Peter is providing the MS3 and flying lead harness. I'll be terminating the harness.
The t56 should arrive next week. Clutchmasters will provide the clutch kit. Hurst shifter. 346lsd is enroute.
Planning on a single turbo in the short term. We'll look at building prototype twin manifolds if space allows and bring them to production next year. Will be using a T04S, 67mm billet wheel, journal bearing, P Trim and .96 tang housing.
Plan on running 6-7psi for 450/500 to the ground.
Posted: Dec 10, 2011 10:04 AM
by Duke
How much was it? Where did you get it?
Posted: Dec 10, 2011 10:43 AM
by T_C_D
Duke wrote:How much was it? Where did you get it?
$1100 delivered. 80k miles. Bought from a yard 10 miles from Sweeney's.
Posted: Dec 10, 2011 11:04 AM
by Duke
T_C_D wrote:Duke wrote:How much was it? Where did you get it?
$1100 delivered. 80k miles. Bought from a yard 10 miles from Sweeney's.
Damn....what a deal. My heads cost more than that. For that price, you can blow them up all day long and twice on Sunday.
Beats the hell out of BMW prices
Posted: Dec 10, 2011 1:03 PM
by BATESY
awesome. I cant wait to see this going.
Posted: Dec 10, 2011 1:35 PM
by clongo
Sounds like a great plan! I can't wait to see this beast up and running.
Posted: Dec 12, 2011 7:47 PM
by Cactus
Hey, hurry up and make a kit to swap these, I can get you at least one customer.
Posted: Dec 12, 2011 8:19 PM
by alijonny
I started doing a single turbo 5.3l HO on a mustang I had a few years back, it's amazing what kind of power can be had from the research I did. Good luck Todd, this should be one hell of a fun trip.
I have a buddy who is doing a similar swap into a firebird in the Rockford area, he has the engine in place with the piping done. He used flipped and slihtly modified mustang 5.0 headers to a single huge turbo setup. Really spiffy looking the way he did it.
Posted: Dec 14, 2011 1:15 PM
by europartconnect
Looks ok, but will be great once you have a snail on there.
Posted: Dec 17, 2011 12:24 PM
by T_C_D
Made a few tweaks to the build plan. Bought a LS6 cam and double valve springs. Also found used billet fuel rails. The power potential is getting stupid. Based on my research the engine is going to start out at about 340rwhp n/a!
ClutchMasters was able to build me a flywheel/clutch combination using a 12" clutch. Considering the m30 clutch is only 9.75", the 12" clutch with the organic disc should be capable of holding at least 600rwtq.
Had to delay transporting the car to Sweeney's for another week or two.
Getting started soon.
Posted: Dec 17, 2011 12:35 PM
by cvillebimmer
You're making the m30 seems so passé. Sounds like a fun build there.
Posted: Dec 17, 2011 12:57 PM
by Duke
T_C_D wrote:Based on my research the engine is going to start out at about 340rwhp n/a!
Ahhhhhhhhh...you have finally seen the light. Get the right exhaust and it will sound like this -
http://youtu.be/z4Ejcr7-byU
Posted: Dec 17, 2011 1:14 PM
by T_C_D
Duke wrote:T_C_D wrote:Based on my research the engine is going to start out at about 340rwhp n/a!
Ahhhhhhhhh...you have finally seen the light. Get the right exhaust and it will sound like this -
http://youtu.be/z4Ejcr7-byU
It's not going to sound like that through the
turbo. We will definitely be tuning the exhaust for just the right sound level but it'll be more muted than your car. I am sure my cam is smaller too.
Posted: Dec 17, 2011 5:11 PM
by Duke
T_C_D wrote: It's not going to sound like that through the turbo.
I figured that would be the case.
Posted: Dec 17, 2011 6:28 PM
by T_C_D
Duke wrote:
I am sure my cam is smaller too.
There is a fix for that -
I thought viagra was for lack of erection? At least get it right when you are trying to be funny.
Posted: Dec 17, 2011 9:59 PM
by Nanajoth
T_C_D wrote:Duke wrote:
I am sure my cam is smaller too.
There is a fix for that -
I thought viagra was for lack of erection? At least get it right when you are trying to be funny.
I think he meant Viagra pillows.
Posted: Dec 21, 2011 5:46 PM
by 1st 5er
Thanks for the direction Duke.
Posted: Dec 21, 2011 7:35 PM
by mnayib
Cactus wrote:Hey, hurry up and make a kit to swap these, I can get you at least one customer.
I'll be down to buy the kit if he makes one. That makes two customers ^^
Looking forward to seeing this build!
Posted: Dec 22, 2011 12:12 AM
by rundatrack
Duke wrote:T_C_D wrote:Based on my research the engine is going to start out at about 340rwhp n/a!
Ahhhhhhhhh...you have finally seen the light. Get the right exhaust and it will sound like this -
http://youtu.be/z4Ejcr7-byU
Sounds sweet. Is that your car?
Posted: Dec 22, 2011 9:28 AM
by Duke
rundatrack wrote:Is that your car?
Yes [/threadhijack]
Posted: Jan 09, 2012 10:19 AM
by T_C_D
Day 1
Travel 140 miles to Sweeney's.
Test fitting with foam block.
Stripped all the truck parts off the L33.
Ugly on the outside but like new where it counts!
So great to be back at the lair building an e28! Even better this time with Harper old enough to help out!
Posted: Jan 09, 2012 11:28 AM
by Brad D.
This is going to be awesome.
Posted: Jan 09, 2012 11:37 AM
by T_C_D
Based on my math, my L33 with the late LS6 cam and BBK intake should have a minimum of 375bhp with stock vette exh manifolds. That's a great starting point!
Based on all of my m30 experience, the VE increases enough with boost that .5 bar boost usually gives 1.7x base power.
Math says .5 bar boost will equal 640bhp or there about. Wouldn't it be nice if the math played out correctly?
Posted: Jan 09, 2012 12:01 PM
by Duke
T_C_D wrote:Wouldn't it be nice if the math played out correctly?
If it does....what about your DS, U joints, half shafts, diff mount, trailing arm mounts....etc. etc? You are going to find many weak links when you start to hook with that much HP.
Posted: Jan 09, 2012 2:21 PM
by T_C_D
Duke wrote:T_C_D wrote:Wouldn't it be nice if the math played out correctly?
If it does....what about your DS, U joints, half shafts, diff mount, trailing arm mounts....etc. etc? You are going to find many weak links when you start to hook with that much HP.
Driveshaft/ujoints will be built to support 800hp. I don't see any issues with the rear suspension of any of it's mounting points. It's all new and reinforced. I am feeling good about the ability of the axles to take the power based on what e34 guys put through stock axles.
It'll be fun if something breaks. Just be another product we can bring to market.
Posted: Jan 09, 2012 2:30 PM
by skip535i
T_C_D wrote:It'll be fun if something breaks. Just be another product we can bring to market.
I love this attitude.
I had the same kind of mindset when I was 16
Posted: Jan 09, 2012 2:54 PM
by Duke
T_C_D wrote:Driveshaft/ujoints will be built to support 800hp. I don't see any issues with the rear suspension of any of it's mounting points. It's all new and reinforced. I am feeling good about the ability of the axles to take the power based on what e34 guys put through stock axles.
Looks like you have it well covered. Lets hope there is not any breakage during our "king of the hill" race
Posted: Jan 10, 2012 4:25 PM
by europartconnect
Your cheating Todd. You have Sweeney on your side.
Posted: Jan 10, 2012 4:47 PM
by Coldswede
Duke wrote:T_C_D wrote:Driveshaft/ujoints will be built to support 800hp. I don't see any issues with the rear suspension of any of it's mounting points. It's all new and reinforced. I am feeling good about the ability of the axles to take the power based on what e34 guys put through stock axles.
Loos like you have it well covered. Lets hope there is not any breakage during out "king of the hill" race
The movie was called "King of the Mountain"!
Just say'n
Posted: Jan 10, 2012 5:41 PM
by T_C_D
europartconnect wrote:Your cheating Todd. You have Sweeney on your side.
It's not cheating.
He is part of Team TCD.