Any Interest in M30 performance fuel rails?

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Any Interest in M30 performance fuel rails?

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How many of you turbo guys would be interested in a performance fuel rail for more fuel delivery? It is billet aluminum and will have the stock location mounts.....you can attach -8 or -10 hose it will be threaded to accept either fittings on the end.


I notice that no one really offeres them for the M30 well at a good price anyway.....

email me for more information and introductory pricing.

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What is the limitation of the stock rail and what is the capacity of the one you are offering?
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Post by vance »

These guys use to offer one.

Marren Fuel injection

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vance wrote:These guys use to offer one.

Marren Fuel injection

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Yep 'USE' to.....They no longer do....
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Pat P wrote:
vance wrote:These guys use to offer one.
Yep 'USE' to...
No, they didn't "use to" -- they "used to."
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Pat, any idea of what kind of horsepower or fuel pressures you'd need to be running to run into issues with the stock rail?

At what point would something like this be a good idea?

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Post by chrism »

Good question Jeremy :confused:
Jeremy wrote:Pat, any idea of what kind of horsepower or fuel pressures you'd need to be running to run into issues with the stock rail?

At what point would something like this be a good idea?

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Shawn D. wrote:
Pat P wrote:
vance wrote:These guys use to offer one.
Yep 'USE' to...
No, they didn't "use to" -- they "used to."
I thought with the m30 you only had to use one. 8)

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chrism wrote:What is the limitation of the stock rail and what is the capacity of the one you are offering?
This is the question. Its just rice to me unless you would actually need it at some point.
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Jeremy wrote:Pat, any idea of what kind of horsepower or fuel pressures you'd need to be running to run into issues with the stock rail?

At what point would something like this be a good idea?

Jeremy
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it is not a ruel of thumb that you need something like this. But it is from my experience it just makes for a more complete fuel system if you have larger lines and injectors, along with pressure/flow from the pump you want to have good constant volume in your line to the injectors which can help you regulate your fuel pressure better. higher volume less pressure needed to make the same or more power.

BUT! thats just my experience......

it's like some one putting a CAI on there car it is an assist...so for the guys that want to assist in their fuel setup a high capacity fuel rail will help, along with the larger lines and adj fpr.

as far as hp goes I personally feel going over 400 to the wheels your fuel system needs to be addresssed properly in some manner....most will go with the rail and fuel lines because it is an added safety when boosting a motor, more fuel and air ='s more power and better tuning is needed.


I cannot say that you will run into issues with the stock rail...but it has less volume and less flow.
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Ken H. has covered the fuel needs for a high HP engine extensively in his past posts.
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Post by GregATL »

I like the idea of AN fittings allowing the use of proper fuel line. What kind of $ constitues a low cost fuel rail. I would be interested.

I know it's not needed necessarily and could be considered "rice" in some ways but a nice piece of machined aluminum is preferable to a stamped and brazed steel rail to me. What is the proposed difference in volume over the stock rail.
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turbodan wrote:
chrism wrote:What is the limitation of the stock rail and what is the capacity of the one you are offering?
This is the question. Its just rice to me unless you would actually need it at some point.
Why would it be rice.......good fuel flow and volume on a turbo car is very essential...as far as the actual limitation on the stock rail I do not know, however I do know that it is not as adequate as a larger volume rail.....and thats in my experience..
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Pat P wrote:
turbodan wrote:
chrism wrote:What is the limitation of the stock rail and what is the capacity of the one you are offering?
This is the question. Its just rice to me unless you would actually need it at some point.
Why would it be rice...
He means if it doesn't add any capability or address any shortcoming, but merely serves as a new snazzy "ooh!" part, it would be rice.
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Needless to say, I think, is that Pat's goals far exceed what most of us on here are going for. For what he's doing, that fuel rail is likely a very good idea.

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Shawn D. wrote:
Pat P wrote:
turbodan wrote:
chrism wrote:What is the limitation of the stock rail and what is the capacity of the one you are offering?
This is the question. Its just rice to me unless you would actually need it at some point.
Why would it be rice...
He means if it doesn't add any capability or address any shortcoming, but merely serves as a new snazzy "ooh!" part, it would be rice.
So a nice valve cover is technically "rice"?

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A valve cover could only be "rice" if it were replaced or decorated in a way that was intended to imply high performance without actually making a difference.

A space grade brightly anodized billet aluminum fuel rail would be worth doing if the stock fuel rail was a restriction at some point. I see the point in overbuilding things, but with my budget I make work what I can. Unless you will actually need it at some point, it would be more for the space grade brightly anodized billet aluminum bling factor. The stock rail is pretty good, but I dont know at what power level it would begin to hold things back.
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Jeremy wrote:Needless to say, I think, is that Pat's goals far exceed what most of us on here are going for. For what he's doing, that fuel rail is likely a very good idea.

Jeremy

I could not have said it better Jeremy.... :D (slowly backs out of thread)....
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vance wrote:
Shawn D. wrote:
Pat P wrote:
turbodan wrote:
chrism wrote:What is the limitation of the stock rail and what is the capacity of the one you are offering?
This is the question. Its just rice to me unless you would actually need it at some point.
Why would it be rice...
He means if it doesn't add any capability or address any shortcoming, but merely serves as a new snazzy "ooh!" part, it would be rice.
So a nice valve cover is technically "rice"?
A nice valve cover isn't intended to increase performance. I'm talking about parts that are purported to increase performance and have a corresponding performance appearance, but don't actually increase performance. I wouldn't consider a nice valve cover "rice."
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Shawn D. wrote:
vance wrote:
Shawn D. wrote:
Pat P wrote:
turbodan wrote: This is the question. Its just rice to me unless you would actually need it at some point.
Why would it be rice...
He means if it doesn't add any capability or address any shortcoming, but merely serves as a new snazzy "ooh!" part, it would be rice.
So a nice valve cover is technically "rice"?
A nice valve cover isn't intended to increase performance. I'm talking about parts that are purported to increase performance and have a corresponding performance appearance, but don't actually increase performance. I wouldn't consider a nice valve cover "rice."
Sometimes "tongue in cheek" is hard to convey when you're typing.

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